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Nevilledog

(51,407 posts)
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 07:43 PM Dec 2023

🚨🚨Trump recorded pressuring Wayne County canvassers not to certify 2020 vote

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/21/donald-trump-recorded-pressuring-wayne-canvassers-not-to-certify-2020-vote-michigan/72004514007/

Then-President Donald Trump personally pressured two Republican members of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers not to sign the certification of the 2020 presidential election, according to recordings reviewed by The Detroit News and revealed publicly for the first time.

On a Nov. 17, 2020, phone call, which also involved Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, Trump told Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, the two GOP Wayne County canvassers, they'd look "terrible" if they signed the documents after they first voted in opposition and then later in the same meeting voted to approve certification of the county’s election results, according to the recordings.

"We've got to fight for our country," said Trump on the recordings, made by a person who was present for the call with Palmer and Hartmann. "We can't let these people take our country away from us."

McDaniel, a Michigan native and the leader of the Republican Party nationally, said at another point in the call, "If you can go home tonight, do not sign it. ... We will get you attorneys."

To which Trump added: "We'll take care of that."

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🚨🚨Trump recorded pressuring Wayne County canvassers not to certify 2020 vote (Original Post) Nevilledog Dec 2023 OP
Kick cuz this is big Nevilledog Dec 2023 #1
Kick! Drum Dec 2023 #2
Caught red handed senseandsensibility Dec 2023 #3
+1 2naSalit Dec 2023 #7
Oh Lordy! 2naSalit Dec 2023 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author 2naSalit Dec 2023 #5
Hi-Fidelity. Kid Berwyn Dec 2023 #9
Thanks... 2naSalit Dec 2023 #10
Kick! senseandsensibility Dec 2023 #6
Yes Big.. this should help get Cha Dec 2023 #8
Should be Story A-1 on every channel kwolf68 Dec 2023 #11
A must read. dalton99a Dec 2023 #12
Yeah.... This is even worse than the fake electors in my mind. Nevilledog Dec 2023 #16
Kick TeamProg Dec 2023 #13
Is it okay if I feel just a tiny bit sorry for Mitt Romney? ShazzieB Dec 2023 #14
Hartmann was another willfully ignorant Covid denier who ended up being killed by it in 2021. catbyte Dec 2023 #15
Can we give him a list of people we want him to touch? Nevilledog Dec 2023 #18
I hope Ronna has lawyered up Arazi Dec 2023 #17

Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)

Kid Berwyn

(15,231 posts)
9. Hi-Fidelity.
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 08:47 PM
Dec 2023
Trump recorded pressuring Wayne County canvassers not to certify 2020 vote

by Craig Mauger
The Detroit News, December 21, 2023

EXCERPT...

On a Nov. 17, 2020, phone call, which also involved Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, Trump told Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, the two GOP Wayne County canvassers, they'd look "terrible" if they signed the documents after they first voted in opposition and then later in the same meeting voted to approve certification of the county’s election results, according to the recordings.

"We've got to fight for our country," said Trump on the recordings, made by a person who was present for the call with Palmer and Hartmann. "We can't let these people take our country away from us."

SNIP...

The recordings further demonstrated the direct involvement of Trump, as an incumbent president, with Republican officials in Michigan in a bid to undermine Biden's win and how some details of his efforts had remained secret as he launched a campaign to win back the White House in 2024.

Neither Palmer nor McDaniel, through a spokeswoman, disputed a summary of the call when contacted by The News. Hartmann died in 2021.

The News listened to audio that was captured in four recordings by someone present for the conversation between Trump and the canvassers. That information came to The News through an intermediary who also heard the recordings but who was not present when they were made. Sources presented the information to The News on the condition that they not be identified publicly for fear of retribution by the former president or his supporters.

SOURCE:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/21/donald-trump-recorded-pressuring-wayne-canvassers-not-to-certify-2020-vote-michigan/72004514007/

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
11. Should be Story A-1 on every channel
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 08:55 PM
Dec 2023

This man tried to destroy Democracy. But I am sure we need to know about Hunter's laptop, or something, anything else.

Trump is a fascist and a dictator in waiting yet the Republican Party is rubber stamping this mad man.

ShazzieB

(16,729 posts)
14. Is it okay if I feel just a tiny bit sorry for Mitt Romney?
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 10:45 PM
Dec 2023

Because he has a piece of trash maggot for a niece. He is one of the few Republicans who have resisted going along with Trump, and I respect him for that.

His niece, however, has evidently decided to get right down in the mud and wallow with rest of the MAGA pigs. Imagine having that in your family tree!

catbyte

(34,588 posts)
15. Hartmann was another willfully ignorant Covid denier who ended up being killed by it in 2021.
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 10:46 PM
Dec 2023

Everything Trump touches dies.

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