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shenmue

(38,506 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 11:48 PM Feb 16

Anybody think Trump will try to flee the country?


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21 (20%)
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78 (75%)
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Anybody think Trump will try to flee the country? (Original Post) shenmue Feb 16 OP
Not a chance... WarGamer Feb 16 #1
He should move with all his followers Dave Bowman Feb 16 #2
He will, but domestic, within easy striking distance of mainland targets. Runningdawg Feb 17 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 29 #39
Is he skilled enough to organize such a thing even if he wanted to? RockRaven Feb 16 #3
Letting him leave might be the best thing for all Kennah Feb 17 #6
I think he's planning to make FL the seat of the new Reich, and Mara Lago its capital. Runningdawg Feb 17 #4
No offense but I hope you're wrong! Deuxcents Feb 17 #8
I tend to agree. He has a lot of power and adoration in the US. Irish_Dem Feb 17 #16
You mentioned that bdamomma Feb 17 #20
Trump is very easy to manipulate. Irish_Dem Feb 17 #22
Thank you bdamomma Feb 17 #23
YW, you raised a good question about the narcissistic fix. Irish_Dem Feb 17 #24
If those bdamomma Feb 17 #21
I have always said that. nt Laffy Kat Feb 17 #7
Bet he's talked about it numerous times. But, he's not quite at brink. Carries cyanide capsules. Silent Type Feb 17 #9
He is too much of a coward to carry cyanide capsules. Irish_Dem Feb 17 #17
Not yet, but eventually. Mike Niendorff Feb 17 #10
Good point! PortTack Feb 17 #11
I agree, it's premature now Wednesdays Feb 17 #12
yup it's not only probable, it's highly possible the Con will fly the coop, and i don't doubt he & his ilk already have onetexan Feb 17 #18
His body will expire before his appeals do. n/t DFW Feb 17 #13
We should be so lucky nt cliffside Feb 17 #14
Is Idi Amin's old residence in Saudi Arabia available? ThoughtCriminal Feb 17 #15
He won't bdamomma Feb 17 #19
Asked multiple times. Answer is still "no". brooklynite Feb 17 #25
TSF will never reach a point where he recognizes reality bucolic_frolic Feb 17 #26
No. Takket Feb 17 #27
I'm not sure how he pulls it off and remains in control of his assets. I doubt anyone wants to babysit him brewens Feb 17 #28
As Chubby Hitler flees to the warm enbrace of Mother Russia and the welcoming arms of,... magicarpet Feb 17 #29
If Elon, Bonesaw or Vlad fail to purchase the Oval Office and Jarqui Feb 17 #30
No . Unfortunately he'll stay here and be even more livetohike Feb 17 #31
He has a chance to hold the world to ransom with Putin and be the greatest dictactor the world has ever seen. So no. Doodley Feb 17 #32
I don't think so Jilly_in_VA Feb 17 #33
I would not be suprised LetMyPeopleVote Feb 17 #34
He could end up in jail from EndlessWire Feb 17 #35
Right now our enemies like him disrupting America Alpeduez21 Feb 17 #36
Living in a van down by the river Johonny Feb 17 #37
Why would a criminal with the Supreme Court in his pocket flee over legal issues? Chainfire Feb 17 #38
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WarGamer

(12,494 posts)
1. Not a chance...
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 11:49 PM
Feb 16

He's got a 50/50 chance at the White House and all the revenge and grifting he can do...

Plus it wouldn't benefit him much.

Response to Dave Bowman (Reply #2)

RockRaven

(15,062 posts)
3. Is he skilled enough to organize such a thing even if he wanted to?
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 11:57 PM
Feb 16

Or does the question assume someone is going to piss their life away to coordinate such an attempt on his behalf?

Kennah

(14,352 posts)
6. Letting him leave might be the best thing for all
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 12:12 AM
Feb 17

DOJ might look the other way if they encounter evidence of his attempt to flee

Runningdawg

(4,527 posts)
4. I think he's planning to make FL the seat of the new Reich, and Mara Lago its capital.
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 12:10 AM
Feb 17

But I think before then his cult are going to attempt, as I heard one MAGAt say, purge the (judicial) benches. It's all about the revenge and they are eating it up. He won't flee that kind of worship.

Irish_Dem

(47,697 posts)
16. I tend to agree. He has a lot of power and adoration in the US.
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 07:26 AM
Feb 17

He won't want to leave that.

He needs his narcissistic fix.

bdamomma

(63,955 posts)
20. You mentioned that
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 08:36 AM
Feb 17

Narcissistic fix, I was watching Joy Reid last night and she went back to when the orange slobfather has been groomed by Russia for 40 years. He went to Russia with Ivana and he was given so much flattery, that they noticed that he could manipulated as a Russian asset, also he was thinking about running in 1988. He was already downing NATO too. If you get a chance to watch the Joy Reid clips do, unless you already knew his story. 40 years!!!!!!!!

Irish_Dem

(47,697 posts)
22. Trump is very easy to manipulate.
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 08:50 AM
Feb 17

Because he is such a narcissist, flattery will go a long way with him.
You can manipulate him by telling him how wonderful, smart and handsome he is etc.
He is especially vulnerable when it comes to important and very rich people, powerful people flattering him.
It is apparent that both of Trump's parents thought Trump was worthless.
So he craves attention and praise by father figures.

Because he is a ruthless, greedy, sociopath with no moral core, you can get him to do all kinds of illegal and ethical things.
His greed means that he'll respond to cash gifts quite well.

He also delights in breaking the rules and the law. He thinks only suckers and losers follow the rules.
He is also a sadist and loves being cruel and hurting people.
Dividing the US, causing violence, causing deaths, is fun for him.
And also brings in more adoration, cash donations, votes.

So yes he is a perfect dream of a Russian asset from the Russian point of view.

I think it's been quite obvious for some time that Trump is a long time Russian asset. They've been giving him money for years. Even one of his sons some years back said they were getting a lot of Russian money when American banks would no longer give them loans.

Then if you ask who benefits the most from trumps behavior, the question is answered. Certainly America and American citizens do not benefit in any way by trumps behavior. His behavior benefits are enemies

Irish_Dem

(47,697 posts)
24. YW, you raised a good question about the narcissistic fix.
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 09:10 AM
Feb 17

And I am glad to hear the media is catching on.

bdamomma

(63,955 posts)
21. If those
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 08:44 AM
Feb 17

cult members just "woke" up (but they are to addicted to him) or what they call "cognitive dissonance."
If they stopped "worshipping" him he probably breakdown. If that could happen.....sigh.

Irish_Dem

(47,697 posts)
17. He is too much of a coward to carry cyanide capsules.
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 07:28 AM
Feb 17

But if he ever becomes a liability for Putin, Trump should avoid windows in tall buildings.

Mike Niendorff

(3,463 posts)
10. Not yet, but eventually.
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 12:34 AM
Feb 17

Not over monetary penalties. But when jail time comes into play? Yes, at that point absolutely.


MDN

Wednesdays

(17,462 posts)
12. I agree, it's premature now
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 12:48 AM
Feb 17

But once he's facing some real prison time, all bets are off. I think he'll flee to the Arabian peninsula, since there's no extradition treaty with the U.S. there, and Putin would have no more use of him by that time.

onetexan

(13,078 posts)
18. yup it's not only probable, it's highly possible the Con will fly the coop, and i don't doubt he & his ilk already have
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 07:53 AM
Feb 17

plans to slink away in darkness and fly out, either to the shelter of the Saudis or the russians, once the election results are announced. The free world will not have him. For a crook whose willing to raise an insurrection to stay in power, he's not one to be constrained by the rule of law and be thrown in jail or be reduced to a common criminal.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,050 posts)
15. Is Idi Amin's old residence in Saudi Arabia available?
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 01:22 AM
Feb 17

But honestly, unless he in in the White House, he's useless. Only Trump cultists don't know this.



bdamomma

(63,955 posts)
19. He won't
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 08:26 AM
Feb 17

but if he did, I would strip him from being a US citizen, take his passport away from him. But don't these wanna-bes usually meet their fate in other ways.

bucolic_frolic

(43,443 posts)
26. TSF will never reach a point where he recognizes reality
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 10:00 AM
Feb 17

So, no, he won't flee because he will always think he's about to turn it around and convince everyone that's he's right about everything. There is no recognition of anyone else's point of view in his personality. There is only him.

Takket

(21,677 posts)
27. No.
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 10:02 AM
Feb 17

Despite what has happened I don't think any part of him believes he is actually in danger. I think he still believes he'll be elected president and between that and endless delays and appeals he'll be able to worm out of prison. and his rubes will just pay off any fines he has.

brewens

(13,645 posts)
28. I'm not sure how he pulls it off and remains in control of his assets. I doubt anyone wants to babysit him
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 10:08 AM
Feb 17

overseas. Once he's out of here, he is no longer useful.

magicarpet

(14,202 posts)
29. As Chubby Hitler flees to the warm enbrace of Mother Russia and the welcoming arms of,...
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 10:09 AM
Feb 17

Strongman Putie the despot/dictataor.

Bon Votage...

Hasta la vista...

Get lost,.. disappear,... fuck off,.. do the world a big humongous favor - Drop Dead.

Jarqui

(10,131 posts)
30. If Elon, Bonesaw or Vlad fail to purchase the Oval Office and
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 10:12 AM
Feb 17

install him as their puppet President.

If he doesn't get the Oval Office, he tries to take off to his stash of dough in the Cook Islands (where it cannot be recovered)

livetohike

(22,165 posts)
31. No . Unfortunately he'll stay here and be even more
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 10:41 AM
Feb 17

belligerent, arrogant and ignorant. Hoping the rest of his life is miserable.

Doodley

(9,163 posts)
32. He has a chance to hold the world to ransom with Putin and be the greatest dictactor the world has ever seen. So no.
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 11:09 AM
Feb 17

EndlessWire

(6,573 posts)
35. He could end up in jail from
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 12:10 PM
Feb 17

the trial on March 25th. Most commentators are saying that he won't be sentenced to jail because it's his first offense, but there is no guarantee. Usually, you get convicted, you get sentenced, and you get handcuffed by court bailiffs and hauled away.

This could happen shortly. So, I think that he has to consider how well he will do in jail. He may pay lip service to "never surrender" and operating from the confines of a jail cell, but he can't guarantee that he'll get house arrest.

I am suspicious of Tucker's recent little excursion to visit Putin. Something may happen around this next trial. A second coup? A quick trip out of the country? He has the means to make something happen.

It would be in the best interests of the country for him to flee. Hell, we should pack his bags for him and put him on a cruise ship to the Caribbean. Maybe he'll slip on down to Venezuela.

Wherever he goes, he will no longer be our problem. And he will find out there is real danger in the world. He's gonna miss us.

Alpeduez21

(1,759 posts)
36. Right now our enemies like him disrupting America
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 12:18 PM
Feb 17

When he stops being a useful asset he will get dropped. I guess he might be useful to another country in some way but only Russia would be able to react to American pressure after Trump goes there. Never forget he is still responsible for missing classified information. Where is it? And why in the everloving fuck is not sitting in a fucking cell? Personally I think he never sees the inside of a jail cell. I don’t think our justice system has the gumption to lock him up. Like Nixon it would be too traumatic for the nation. I think the worst he gets is house monitoring or whatever is less than house arrest. It’s weird there is so much worry about not restricting him from running or making a living but millions sit in jail awaiting trial and nobody gives a fuck about them. Yeah, he gets special treatment

Response to Chainfire (Reply #38)

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