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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow many people here believe Eileen Cannon is getting her marching orders outside of her
chambers? I know I don't believe that this judge is acting on her own. This latest stunt of trying to get the lawyers to make an argument based on the Records Acts sounds like a prequel to a Supreme Court submission. Frankly, it sounds like a legal strategy hatched out of a Federalist Society Deep undercover operation.
If we're going to investigate Cannon, the way they did Willis, what we should be looking for is proof that she's communicating with political bad actors.
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(52,767 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,219 posts)She may find herself removed by the Circuit Appeals court, which would earn her a third reprimand and that might lead to heavier three-strikes action against her.
Hotler
(11,557 posts)Raven
(13,931 posts)I checked her resume. She is not a stupid woman. The only explanation for her actions is that she is being coached.
azureblue
(2,165 posts)and it's up to her to make it into a legally sound ruling. Which, she isn't doing - her ruling are really half baked. . Which says she is not getting coached by people with solid legal experience.. Which says that she is being left alone out on a limb.
This ruling is the final straw that will get the case taken away from her. It proves she is not competent to handle the case- it is above her head..
dem4decades
(11,368 posts)Is this just more wishful thinking, like the Mueller Report, and all the other things that were going to get Trump, but melted away like ice in the hot sun?
Scrivener7
(51,192 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,590 posts)phone discussions with Trump himself.
2naSalit
(87,440 posts)Totally being coached since her nomination to her appointment. She was literally placed in her seat for the purpose of bastardizing and weaponizing the judicial system. Her earlier jobs were working with Rubio and Scott.
She's being coached but I think there's a possible rebellion afloat among judges who have had enough of the magats and could, possibly, help in cleaning up the judiciary. I sure hope so.
https://thehill.com/regulation/3631564-five-things-to-know-about-aileen-m-cannon-the-judge-who-granted-trump-a-special-master/
https://archive.ph/20220907213453/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/07/us/politics/aileen-cannon-judge-trump.html
machoneman
(4,030 posts)Maybe collusion among all these players to feed her ways to kill the indictment. I've said before, I do hope Smith or the DOJ is tapping her phone/emails after convincing the Appeals Court of her duplicity in constantly gifting motions in TFG's way.
SergeStorms
(19,214 posts)she was being told what to do by the Federalist Society. However, they're not that freaking careless and ignorant.
Are they?
haele
(12,735 posts)Her rulings and instructions are very inconsistent for someone who supposedly is taking the time to research and think about what is being laid out in front of them.
She doesn't seem like she either understands the mechanics of her job or cares about doing her job in a fair, impartial manner.
She seems to be there to play "judge" and read from a judge script written up from a legal AI companion program.
I may be wrong. But she doesn't seem to take her job seriously.
Haele
Emile
(23,791 posts)Septua
(2,293 posts)..that she be removed. Her latest ruling indicates she doesn't understand the law relative to the charges against Trump nor how the Presidential Records Act relates to the charges.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/03/18/trump-judge-cannon-jury-instructions-pra/
I heard a theory a while back that she's behaving in a manner that will lead to being removed from the case which would get her off hot seat and at the same time, preserve her image with Trump.
Iwasthere
(3,207 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,548 posts)... she is considering an order that allows the jury to act as a judge to determine if the law applies. That's HER job.
cloudbase
(5,542 posts)I do, however, believe that she's very grateful for a position granting lifetime tenure and is sufficiently self-aware that she's not really ready for the big leagues. She still believes that she has to dance with the one that brung ya.
If she helps Trump enough she's a shoo-in for a Trump Supreme Court nomination, should that come up.
Zilli
(199 posts)and it seems as if she verifies our suspicions with every minute order and ruling.
Mister Ed
(5,976 posts)Mr.WeRP
(189 posts)Her actions over the last year have his (and Ginnys) fingerprints all over it.
ashredux
(2,613 posts)onecaliberal
(33,202 posts)ancianita
(36,352 posts)She'd could only be investigated by the Republican House as part of an impeachment proceeding.
The current House won't ever do that with a Trump appointee. Perhaps if we gain a majority in 2025, but not before.
As of September 2017, only 15 federal judges have been impeached, and only eight have been convicted. Three others resigned before the completion of impeachment proceedings.
MayReasonRule
(1,463 posts)Odds are she lives a long and prosperous lives on the backs of the rest of humanity.
I would prefer that to not be the case.
Here's to reason's rule in delusions stead.
ancianita
(36,352 posts)You're right, she likely won't be impeached and removed, but she's got a heckuva long learning curve ahead. I wouldn't trust her with any criminal cases in trumpworld.
MayReasonRule
(1,463 posts)It's minor historically...
Although I've gotta' say that our current time line has been quite surprising in many regards that historically were never the case.
No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition, which is part of the root our problem.
We're in the midst of an Americanized Spanish Inquisition Y'all Qaeda Nat-C style.
Aileen is a part and parcel of that very thing.
I've been astonished as women have been forced to gestate and give birth to the children of rapists that we've not seen members of the judiciary widely slaughtered.
The states within which those laws have been enacted have more guns per capita than your average state.
Americans have shown a surprising degree of decency and decorum to their fascist overlords.
I'm genuinely surprised by that.
ancianita
(36,352 posts)It's a major weakness of American freedoms to allow all the anti-democratic activity that extends from streets to courts. Which is why public awareness has to be better informed by any means necessary, from independent journalists, and in spite of corporate media.
MayReasonRule
(1,463 posts)Which is why public awareness has to be better informed by any means necessary, from independent journalists, and in spite of corporate media.
Hear, hear!!!
Aviation Pro
(12,361 posts)And the FBI has the tapes and is ready to spring.
Welcome to the other side of the law, you worthless oxygen thief.
liberalla
(9,327 posts)She so richly deserves it! It would restore some of my confidence in the FBI. Also would send a signal and a warning to other players out there.
Fla Dem
(24,096 posts)would risk her reputation and future to be a Trump Puppet.
Whether he offered her a position in his government if he gets elected, offered a payout( although he currently has no money) or has threatened her or her family, I don't know. My only other thought is she is positioning herself to run in the future for Fla Senator and this way she earns the support of all the Florida Republican creeps.
It just seems to me so absurd that she would play this obvious trial delay game when the reality is Trump is a crook and his case should be a walk in the park.
Baitball Blogger
(46,881 posts)I noticed it a long time ago. Local lawyers, especially the local public lawyers, will go over the line with their legal advice because they know that most people do not have the money or time to challenge their decisions in court. And if someone does make it into court, they will figure out quickly that they need to make it at least to the appeal level.
If this can go on at the lower levels, you can bet that the same thing is happening higher up.
But you can draw up a list a mile long of formerly-respected people who have seemingly thrown away their careers, reputations and lives for Donald Trump over the past six years.
I agree; it makes no sense. Think of all the people who would never have gone to jail had he never came along!?
MayReasonRule
(1,463 posts)Delusional Malevolence is literally ruling the day.
This is that.
kentuck
(111,143 posts)There is an urgency in her decisions.
Botany
(70,804 posts)The J.C.N. gets Major League Right Wing Money from the likes of the Heritage Foundation, Koch Brothers,
Harlan Crow, friends of Jenni Thomas and others. They stopped President Obama from getting his last pick for the SCOTUS, selected the last 5 Justices picked by w Bush and Trump, and have been packing other Federal Bench seats too.
dobleremolque
(502 posts)Democrats are in sufficient control of the House and Senate. Hasten the day!
In our history, 15 federal judges have been impeached; 8 have been convicted and removed from the bench. The most recent was in 2010 ... a Clinton appointee, G. Thomas Porteous in Louisiana.
Cannon isn't utterly invulnerable as a federal judge. Sure, the 11th Circuit can slap her hand for bonehead decisions, but impeachment .... provided it can be proven that she IS being guided or coached by outside sources ... is the ultimate solution.
And any investigation should go so deep as to check for Federalist Society fingerprints on the coins in her change purse.
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The Wizard
(12,577 posts)Putin's underboss, The Siberian Candidate, Trump.
lees1975
(3,989 posts)corrupt
AllaN01Bear
(19,420 posts)ancianita
(36,352 posts)Mr.Bee
(198 posts)to me is that she is still on the case! Should've been removed months ago. How is this justice?
Tree Lady
(11,597 posts)enough that her goal of it not going to trial before election will happen. If they get another judge that will delay again.
NanaCat
(2,087 posts)Her jurisprudence is sometimes stupid enough to be all hers.
MayReasonRule
(1,463 posts)kimbutgar
(21,379 posts)Too bad some federal agency cant trace her calls.
Judge Cannon: yes sir, yes sir , you are the greatest president ever and I will keep delaying your case until youre back in office !
MayReasonRule
(1,463 posts)I appreciated Andrew Weissman's assessment of the order
(a.) Please draft a jury instruction assuming the earth is flat while reserving counterarguments.
(b) Please draft a jury instruction assuming the earth is square while reserving counterarguments.
The U.S. Department of Justice considers a writ of mandamus to be an extraordinary remedy that should only be used in exceptional circumstances.
Will the DOJ consider this to be such a circumstance?
Will the DOJ immediately seek a writ of mandamus?
Might they respond by basically saying go ahead and rule in favor of Trump and we'll just immediately appeal it?
malaise
(269,996 posts)Rec
bluestarone
(17,286 posts)She's toast! (I wish)
Initech
(100,262 posts)PufPuf23
(8,919 posts)Don't understand the lawyer types at DU and what they defend.
The process is not working, the will is lacking and "justice" is for sale to highest bidder.
Fear we ultimately will be disappointed in Jack Smith or that he well be neutralized.
The courts and legal system are rotten down to the community level, Trump or no Trump.
Aviation Pro
(12,361 posts)Shes clearly not bright enough to come up with this shit on her own.
Think. Again.
(9,582 posts)Mike Niendorff
(3,480 posts)She tried to illegally shut down the investigation, and now she's trying to illegally monkeywrench the prosecution.
Judges can't commit crimes any more than ex-presidents can, and obstruction of justice is absolutely a crime.
It's high time for the discussion to go there.
MDN
Kid Berwyn
(15,425 posts)She sees all. She hears all. And she knows all she wants to know.