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PJMcK

(22,074 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 03:50 AM Mar 23

How does Trump do it?

Trump’s life is a huge chaotic mess: half a dozen legal challenges across the country, tremendous financial burdens that will likely bankrupt him or his companies, an obvious failed marriage and he’s running for office.

Wow.

Any fraction of those issues would sideline me and demand my full attention. Years ago, I faced a divorce, fought a foreclosure threat while stuck in a dying company. Some days all I could barely do was roll out of bed. How does Trump do it?

My guess is that he’s built an impervious bubble of fantasy around himself. The world he created is all he perceives. Anything that contradicts his fantasy is readily dismissed. That illusory shield is being pierced for the first time in his life.

I detest that man with all my being, a sensation I have never felt and hope to never feel again. Still, Trump’s stamina (if that’s what it is) is impressive. It’ll be fun to watch him over the next year or so as he is dissected by the courts.

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How does Trump do it? (Original Post) PJMcK Mar 23 OP
Je ne sais pas, PJ. elleng Mar 23 #1
Post removed Post removed Mar 23 #8
Bye. elleng Mar 23 #9
Ne t'inquite pas Ellen... ce n'est pas un problem pour moi!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 23 #11
Merci, InAbLuEsTaTe!!! elleng Mar 23 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 23 #22
You have to ask.??? GP6971 Mar 23 #23
Oh dear, do we have tag team newcomers today? niyad Mar 23 #30
I think they're unrelated. GP6971 Mar 23 #33
. KS Toronado Mar 23 #28
You've made two posts on DU, both criticisms. You'll be very busy here with English, let alone French. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 23 #15
We really don't police grammar and spelling here... PCIntern Mar 23 #19
Insulting a beloved long-time member of our community is not a niyad Mar 23 #29
as long as he is the center of attention he doesn't care Skittles Mar 23 #2
I think scoiopaths and whatever Trump is are wired different Ohioboy Mar 23 #3
This, to a large extent Martin Eden Mar 23 #18
What is going on with his MAGA base is so cult- like Ohioboy Mar 23 #24
Another big part of hos presidency Martin Eden Mar 23 #32
He uses drugs to numb reality rainy Mar 23 #4
100% Roy Rolling Mar 23 #13
Perhaps controlled/driven/possessed by an unnatural force/entity. nt sprinkleeninow Mar 23 #5
If this were me, I'd be a basket-case. dmr Mar 23 #6
he actually does nothing useful requiring depth so he just keeps charging from topic to topic nt msongs Mar 23 #7
tRump has minions (sycophants) & is chronically sleep-deprived - hence dementia. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 23 #10
Like you said, he lives in a bubble. Demobrat Mar 23 #14
He leans heavily on the lectern the longer the event & more some days than others. CrispyQ Mar 23 #31
All good, amigo PJMcK Mar 23 #38
It's simple--you have morals, and contact with reality. lastlib Mar 23 #16
Morals? PJMcK Mar 23 #39
I'm afraid that he might be the one dissecting the courts. Kablooie Mar 23 #17
He has 40 years of battling lawsuits. GreenWave Mar 23 #20
Psychopaths do not respond to stimuli like normal people NanaCat Mar 23 #21
All psychopaths are narcissists or are all narcissists psychopaths? llmart Mar 23 #25
The bigger they are the harder they fall. Chainfire Mar 23 #26
Anyone else would have stroked out by now kimbutgar Mar 23 #27
No different than George Santos ecstatic Mar 23 #34
Good insights PJMcK Mar 23 #40
Thanks! You too! ecstatic Mar 23 #44
A narcissistic, psychopath superman who can do it all. keithbvadu2 Mar 23 #35
He's spent his entire life between failed marriages and failed businesses, in court, hogging the limelight EleanorR Mar 23 #36
Acting! Marthe48 Mar 23 #37
Follow t! PJMcK Mar 23 #41
Let's move past trump FHRRK Mar 23 #42
How many "decent" people are there in the U.S.? PJMcK Mar 23 #43
Never underestimate a person's capacity for denial. LudwigPastorius Mar 23 #45

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Response to elleng (Reply #9)

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,075 posts)
15. You've made two posts on DU, both criticisms. You'll be very busy here with English, let alone French. . . . nt
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 05:55 AM
Mar 23

PCIntern

(25,656 posts)
19. We really don't police grammar and spelling here...
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 08:37 AM
Mar 23

These are trivial issues and demeaning in their own right. Also, this is conversational and not formal writing to say the least. My essays differ quite a bit from my postings, believe me.

Ohioboy

(3,249 posts)
3. I think scoiopaths and whatever Trump is are wired different
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 03:57 AM
Mar 23

They don't process things and take responsibility like other people.

Martin Eden

(12,887 posts)
18. This, to a large extent
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 07:03 AM
Mar 23

He's never had to pay any real consequences that break the facade he built for himself, and he feels no guilt or remorse about the harm he's done to others.

But having to leave the White House and his current legal problems both financial and criminal are having an effect on that facade. His ramblings are increaingly incoherent as he plays the role of unfairly persucuted victim.

The facade that really needs to be broken is how the MAGA cult view him, which is the source of his stranglehold on the Republican Party.

Ohioboy

(3,249 posts)
24. What is going on with his MAGA base is so cult- like
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 12:17 PM
Mar 23

The cult of MAGA is definitely the source of his power. He built that following with rallies, which he continued to hold even after he became president in 2017. He never stopped campaigning and doing rallies. Rallies and golf were a big part of his presidency.

Roy Rolling

(6,943 posts)
13. 100%
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 05:49 AM
Mar 23

No human acts like that without brain damage, intoxication, or impairment.

The man has a broken brain and is self-medicating—following the directions of his damaged brain.

It’s an endless loop—brain disease is a real problem here.

dmr

(28,364 posts)
6. If this were me, I'd be a basket-case.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 04:34 AM
Mar 23

You're probably right. He lives inside a fantasy bubble. It explains his lies.

His lies are truths to him. The lie he tells you right now contradicts the lie he told you yesterday, and the lie he'll tell you tomorrow. And, of course each of those lies were or are the truth to him.

If you call him out on it, he will berate you for being such a horrible person, and perhaps you need therapy. Then he'll walk away, dismissing you.

Every‐/anything negative happening in his life is false, untrue, or a witch hunt. Nothing is his fault. He continues on as a victim. A very successful victim. You on the other hand are jealous of him and his hard fought successes he sacrificed long hard hours to achieve.

Why worry about silly little things like lawsuits, when he's done nothing wrong?

He has no conscience and to quote him:
"I'm really rich."

Demobrat

(9,043 posts)
14. Like you said, he lives in a bubble.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 05:55 AM
Mar 23

A bubble made up of luxurious surroundings and layers of sycophants who tell him what he wants to hear. Sure, his wife despises him, but he can always buy female companionship from women who are good at pretending they like their customers.

Running for office - what does that really entail for him? He flies somewhere, gets up in front of his nutbag supporters, rants about his grievances, basks in their adoration for a couple of hours, and leaves.

The legal challenges - those are the lawyers’ problems. Except of course when he feels like making a campaign stop.

The money - now that just might actually affect him - or it might not. But up to now he’s gotten away with never paying his dues, and no doubt the lawyers are telling him all will be well - so no worries yet.

He does APPEAR to have stamina, but the truth is all he really does is make cameo appearances once in a while. The rest of the time he’s hanging out stuffing his face or riding around in a golf cart. Not really that hard.

CrispyQ

(36,567 posts)
31. He leans heavily on the lectern the longer the event & more some days than others.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 12:54 PM
Mar 23

He's a fucking mess & a testament to medical science when you have access to the best. When he came out of Covid & said "If I beat it you can too," I about went ballistic. Yeah, if you can be airlifted & then get viral treatments that were only available to VIPs. That was one time I was rooting for Covid.

on edit: I'm agreeing with your statement "He does APPEAR to have stamina,..." but I got a little pissed off & off track there.

PJMcK

(22,074 posts)
38. All good, amigo
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 02:30 PM
Mar 23

DU is our place to rant!

I came of age during Watergate and thought that episode demonstrated a maturation of the American people.

Boy, was I wrong!

In my older years, I don’t hold out much hope that the evils Republicans espouse can be beaten back. This November could revealing one way or another.

In any event, enjoy your weekend!

lastlib

(23,389 posts)
16. It's simple--you have morals, and contact with reality.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 06:46 AM
Mar 23

He doesn't. The only moral good for him is what benefits him in the moment.

PJMcK

(22,074 posts)
39. Morals?
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 02:33 PM
Mar 23

I try but if you ask my ex-wives, they might raise their eyebrows!

Just kidding. Enjoy the weekend.

Kablooie

(18,648 posts)
17. I'm afraid that he might be the one dissecting the courts.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 06:57 AM
Mar 23

He has a genius for slowing and clogging the court system so that it doesn’t work.
It only takes one juror to save him.
There are judges all through the system that worship him like a god.
If he steals the presidency he’s free forever.

There are way too many times before he was going down but didn’t.

No I don’t anticipate watching the courts take him apart.
It might be that only nature ce do that one day.

GreenWave

(6,829 posts)
20. He has 40 years of battling lawsuits.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 09:59 AM
Mar 23

He knows how to judge shop and with Turtle's help, the number of fascist dumb ass judges increased.

NanaCat

(1,551 posts)
21. Psychopaths do not respond to stimuli like normal people
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 10:38 AM
Mar 23

I'm having a hard time finding an image that will post here, but MRIs show that only a fraction of pscyhopath brains respond to stimuli compared to normal people. Very few or none of the empathy centers 'light up.' Even their autonomic system that responds to flight/fight stimuli doesn't respond the same way as that of a normal person

Because the don't have empathy or the same flight/fight fears, they could have a captive or mutilated corpse in their basement, and be dead calm when a cop knocks on their door during a house-to-house survey to see if anyone had seen said captive or corpse in the neighbourhood. They'll even lie via small talk that they had no idea about the missing person, how terrible that is, what's the world coming to--and not give themselves away at all.

So it's not a surprise that his legal woes aren't getting to him in the way it would a normal person. The narcissist sector of the psychopathic personality (all psychopaths are narcissists) will more likely be angry at the affront of the justice system preventing him from getting his way, rather than scared or worried about the threat to his livelihood. He's not worried about his livelihood as much as he is getting his way because he doesn't care about consequences; psychopaths never consider those at all, because the future doesn't matter to them, only the here and now. He may make up things that pretend to care about the future (it will affect my campaign!), but in reality, he's only worried about getting what he wants in the here and now. He doesn't want to pay 464 million today, never mind down the line. That's all he knows--or cares about

Their different wiring and outlook are why it's dangerous to think that a psychopath will see and do things the same way as a normal person.

llmart

(15,569 posts)
25. All psychopaths are narcissists or are all narcissists psychopaths?
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 12:28 PM
Mar 23

Narcissists also create chaos wherever they go. They seem to be addicted to chaos. They create the chaos and then move on to the next. It's difficult for most of us to understand how a person can have zero empathy, but narcissists' main characteristic is lack of empathy. The general advice given when dealing with a narcissist is to never think you are going to be able to change them - you can't - so run as fast as you can away from them.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
26. The bigger they are the harder they fall.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 12:38 PM
Mar 23

Trump won't survive a financial, legal or political disaster, and all may be on the horizon. However, the OP is right, but it may be because Trump is to unimaginative to be afraid or depressed.

ecstatic

(32,798 posts)
34. No different than George Santos
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 01:13 PM
Mar 23

Or whatever his real name is. He, like trump, is a sociopath. He has no shame or stress related to his multiple crimes. He actually showed up to the State of the Union Address smiling and happy as if he was still a regular member of Congress.

It's not stamina, it's narcissism and psychosis.

keithbvadu2

(37,051 posts)
35. A narcissistic, psychopath superman who can do it all.
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 01:22 PM
Mar 23

A narcissistic, psychopath superman who can do it all.

??? Not really. Not to him.

EleanorR

(2,397 posts)
36. He's spent his entire life between failed marriages and failed businesses, in court, hogging the limelight
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 01:58 PM
Mar 23

He has lawyers and others who do the work because he's intellectually lazy. So maybe he has to spend a little extra time yelling at them, but that's it. Running for president is just talking to crowds and in interviews and he loves that. That gives him energy, not the other way around. It's not like he's trying to learn what the job entails or brushing up on history or anything.

PJMcK

(22,074 posts)
41. Follow t!
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 02:39 PM
Mar 23

Thank you, dear Marthe48, for bringing humor to this dark thread!

Hope y’all are well!

PJMcK

(22,074 posts)
43. How many "decent" people are there in the U.S.?
Sat Mar 23, 2024, 03:00 PM
Mar 23

Trump has exposed how one third of Americans are under-educated, lacking in critical thinking skills and consumed with violent desires. These cretins will still be here even if Trump croaks tomorrow. (Wouldn’t that be a great Monday morning?).

I guess we’ll see.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend!

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