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Ocelot II

(115,932 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:35 AM Mar 26

A GOPer in my state opposes gun storage because you might have to shoot a cow.

While arguing against a proposal for safe storage requirements for firearms, Minnesota state Sen. Warren Limmer (R-Maple Grove) contended that rural citizens need guns readily available to deal with cows.

“You even walk too close to a cow, and it’ll take you down and trample you into dust,” Limmer said. “Fumbling around with a lock while a cow or a bull or any other animal is going after your daughter or your son — you can’t fumble around with a key or try and find the lockbox or put your thumb on a biometric key of some sort in your home while the danger is outside. This bill puts those individuals in even more danger.”

https://heartlandsignal.com/2024/03/25/minnesota-republican-legislator-opposes-safe-gun-storage-law-citing-killer-cow-threat/

Wow, I didn't know you had to pack heat around cows. Or do only GOPers have to do that because cows know they're galactically stupid and might want to trample them just for that reason?

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A GOPer in my state opposes gun storage because you might have to shoot a cow. (Original Post) Ocelot II Mar 26 OP
I am no expert dsc Mar 26 #1
Should one live in such a dangerous insane cow infested environment, I am sure you could get a carry permit. dutch777 Mar 26 #2
There are numbskulls here in Minnesota. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 26 #3
Yes, a lot of them. How can we forget Michelle Bachmann? Ocelot II Mar 26 #16
The weird one from Anoka, now of Woodbury. The Minnesota State Bird. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 26 #23
Hey Ocelot II, count yourself lucky sarisataka Mar 26 #4
Privileged suburban cows with an attitude, apparently. Ocelot II Mar 26 #5
As the song goes Wicked Blue Mar 26 #8
. sarisataka Mar 26 #9
I have lived in a farming area almost all of my 76 years and only remember one death doc03 Mar 26 #6
The same kind of reasoning as if everyone had a Emile Mar 26 #7
If spent the morning trying to figure out who keeps their gun storage close to where they keep their cows? Biophilic Mar 26 #10
That is so stupid. sop Mar 26 #11
The back of my property butts up against a forty acre parcel. bluesbassman Mar 26 #12
Shows you how he treats his cows wendyb-NC Mar 26 #13
He's from the Minneapolis suburb of Maple Grove, which is not known Ocelot II Mar 26 #15
wait till ya see "Cows With Guns": ret5hd Mar 26 #14
Damn! You beat me to it! nocoincidences Mar 26 #22
Me too! LastDemocratInSC Mar 26 #37
I love this! And also the llama song. SharonAnn Mar 26 #35
Everyone knows that innocent looking cows are drug dealers, rapists, unAmerican, Ping Tung Mar 26 #17
The stampedes on Rawhide were always scary. Sneederbunk Mar 26 #18
LOL! If you're a kid on a farm, you know to MineralMan Mar 26 #19
How is the cow situation in your neighborhood these days? Ocelot II Mar 26 #26
Yeah, I was trying to think how far I'd have to drive MineralMan Mar 26 #29
We had a Rebl2 Mar 26 #34
Thanks, Limmer, for exposing these lying, vicious cows! Judi Lynn Mar 26 #20
OMG - if a guy in a rural area is afraid of cows he should seek psychiatric help. Vinca Mar 26 #21
Maple Grove isn't rural. It's a large suburb. Ocelot II Mar 26 #25
Indeed. I live in Maple Grove. You have to drive a few miles west to get out of town MineralMan Mar 26 #28
So this numpty is your state Senator. My condolences. Ocelot II Mar 26 #31
Yup. We're really lucky that way. MineralMan Mar 26 #33
Where does Devin come down on this issue? rubbersole Mar 26 #24
I grew up in a rural area, and there were plenty of cattle around. MineralMan Mar 26 #27
Mad Cow Disease is real. mercuryblues Mar 26 #30
That's udderly apalling. greatauntoftriplets Mar 26 #32
WTF? NanaCat Mar 26 #36
I worked on a dairy farm, they are just big slow moving vehicles.... getagrip_already Mar 26 #38
Stupid argument. Caliman73 Mar 26 #39
Yes, but do you have cows? It's a different situation if you have cows. Ocelot II Mar 26 #40
Why do you think I own a gun? Caliman73 Mar 26 #43
Bart Simpson has some good advice for Sen. Limmer. nt sl8 Mar 26 #41
Grasping at straws, are we. republianmushroom Mar 26 #42
If you make our guns hard to get, only cows will have guns - don't forget! Brought to you by the NRA. Wonder Why Mar 26 #44

dsc

(52,172 posts)
1. I am no expert
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:38 AM
Mar 26

but I grew up in a small city which had farming areas in our school district. I never remember hearing about cows attacking people or causing other harm to them. Have I not been paying attention? Have cows gone rogue?

dutch777

(3,050 posts)
2. Should one live in such a dangerous insane cow infested environment, I am sure you could get a carry permit.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:39 AM
Mar 26

Insanity truly reigns on the right.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,847 posts)
3. There are numbskulls here in Minnesota.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:41 AM
Mar 26

But safer gun storage for those who do not live on farms is key to gun safety overall.

"Stupid is as Stupid does", as Forrest Gump is fond of saying.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,847 posts)
23. The weird one from Anoka, now of Woodbury. The Minnesota State Bird.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:36 AM
Mar 26

Back in 2010 at the Humphrey-Mondale Dinner, I met keynote Speaker, Rep. Barney Frank. I presented him with a stuffed Loon that makes sounds when squeezed named Lottie. It had been a gift from a friend of mine when she was up North. I gave Rep. Frank the history of the Minnesota State Bird. He replied..."Michele Bachmann." (Barney Frank was Chair of the House Finance Committee and Michele Bachmann was a member who seldom showed up for Committee meetings.)

I have photos of me with Rep. Frank.

sarisataka

(18,878 posts)
4. Hey Ocelot II, count yourself lucky
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:50 AM
Mar 26

if you've never had to face down one of those Maple Grove cows.

I remember shopping and ran face to face with a rogue cow. If I hadn't made it in the door to Freddies Frozen Custard I might not be here today

Wicked Blue

(5,863 posts)
8. As the song goes
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:59 AM
Mar 26

"I'm proud proud proud to be a cow
I'm proud proud proud to be a cow
I've horns upon my head
A meadow is my bed
I think that ev'ry cow should take a bow
I'm proud proud proud to be a cow"

"Proud to be a Cow" written by Tony Geiss, Sesame Street, Silly Songs

doc03

(35,425 posts)
6. I have lived in a farming area almost all of my 76 years and only remember one death
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 10:54 AM
Mar 26

by cow. A farmer was found dead in a coral, they think the cow leaned on him pining him against the fence.
But you never know there could be a mass murderer among them.

Biophilic

(3,720 posts)
10. If spent the morning trying to figure out who keeps their gun storage close to where they keep their cows?
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:07 AM
Mar 26

And if you just have guns laying around everywhere, just in case you need them, you're probably in more danger from them than a cow.

sop

(10,276 posts)
11. That is so stupid.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:17 AM
Mar 26

I've heard of the Running of the Bulls in Pamplona, but never the Trampling by the Cows in Minnesota.

bluesbassman

(19,385 posts)
12. The back of my property butts up against a forty acre parcel.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:17 AM
Mar 26

The owner keeps ten cows there for the ag exemption. Every once in a while they break through the fence and I’ll find them all in my backyard. I keep a five gallon bucket half full of feed cubes in the garage and go stand on the other side of the fence and shake it. They all come running, and I give them each a handful, then fix the hole in the fence and go on about my day. They’ve never attempted to “trample me into dust”, so it’s never occurred to me to shoot one. Guess they’re just special.

Ocelot II

(115,932 posts)
15. He's from the Minneapolis suburb of Maple Grove, which is not known
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:22 AM
Mar 26

for serious cow infestations. It is now known for stupid legislators, though.

Ping Tung

(752 posts)
17. Everyone knows that innocent looking cows are drug dealers, rapists, unAmerican,
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:26 AM
Mar 26

Deep State controlled Terrorists, and (EEK!) Vegetarians!

MineralMan

(146,344 posts)
19. LOL! If you're a kid on a farm, you know to
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:33 AM
Mar 26

stay away from cows that have just calved.

That guy is an abject idiot, and is being roundly laughed at this morning on WCCO.

MineralMan

(146,344 posts)
29. Yeah, I was trying to think how far I'd have to drive
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:45 AM
Mar 26

to see a cow. I know I'd have to go west. Even then, it would be several miles before I was in a rural area. Any other direction and its more suburbs, one right after another. I guess that's why they call it a "metro area." No cows. Nope.

Rebl2

(13,580 posts)
34. We had a
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:10 PM
Mar 26

couple cows across the street from us last summer-suburban area by the way. There is an open field next door -belongs to another neighbor-one of the cows got out last summer and was grazing in that field. My husband went to let them know one of the cows was out, and they didn’t seem to care. Very odd response I thought.

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
20. Thanks, Limmer, for exposing these lying, vicious cows!
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:33 AM
Mar 26


Limmer, keeping a look-out for cows.




Limmer, as he blocks an attempt to grab his gun.

Ocelot II

(115,932 posts)
25. Maple Grove isn't rural. It's a large suburb.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:38 AM
Mar 26

And a suburban guy who is never around cows is so afraid of cows that he thinks you need to be armed when you are around them really needs psychiatric help. But he's a Republican, so I repeat myself.

MineralMan

(146,344 posts)
28. Indeed. I live in Maple Grove. You have to drive a few miles west to get out of town
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:43 AM
Mar 26

before you might possibly see a cow. If you go in any other direction than west, you're going to drive a long way before you're not in some suburb.

No cows in Maple Grove.

Ocelot II

(115,932 posts)
31. So this numpty is your state Senator. My condolences.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:53 AM
Mar 26

Hope you can vote his cow-fearing, gun-loving butt out of the Legislature in January.

MineralMan

(146,344 posts)
33. Yup. We're really lucky that way.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:01 PM
Mar 26

This district wanders back and forth between parties. It seems to be trending a little more towards Democratic, but with Dean Phillips not running, it's a toss-up in November. I don't know what's going to happen.

Weirdest place, politically, I've ever lived in.

MineralMan

(146,344 posts)
27. I grew up in a rural area, and there were plenty of cattle around.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 11:41 AM
Mar 26

I also worked in a dairy. I occasionally had to help out in the milking barn, although that wasn't my job. The cows were nice, but they fart a lot. A lot!.

I also wandered around the countryside near my little town. I encountered cattle often when I did. One time, I was riding my little motorcycle on some back roads - roads with cattle guards across them. Well, one time, my motorcycle quit running. I got off it and was looking to see what was wrong. I figured it out and fixed it. When I stood back up, I found myself surrounded by cattle.

They had wandered over to see what that strange human was doing. they formed a circle around me, each facing me, but leaving about 10' between their noses and dangerous human, me. They were curious, and that's what they do. So, I looked around at all the animals, spoke quietly, and got back on my motorcycle and started it. I put it in gear and started riding on the road I had been on. As soon as I started rolling the animals stepped away from where I was going and let me pass.

I've never been much afraid of cattle. Now, a lone bull is another matter...

NanaCat

(1,419 posts)
36. WTF?
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:37 PM
Mar 26

My grandparents lived in a rural area. The only time I can remember cattle being anything but docile was if someone went out of their way to rile up one of them, made a threatening move to a calf around Mama, or let a cow get too close to a bull.

My daft brother learned that the hard way when he and his equally stupid friends started throwing rocks at a neighbour's bull. I told them to knock that off--that old boy wasn't bothering them, but if they bothered him enough, he'd show them a thing or two.

They got a quick lesson in how strong and fast a mad bull can be if you plonk his sac. By that time, I was on the rise overlooking the paddock, and it was like a furry tank going after those boys. Shattered the wood fence to go after them. I don't know how they avoided the horns, but they somehow did.

Was it awful of me that I laughed at the tables turning on my prat of a brother?

getagrip_already

(14,932 posts)
38. I worked on a dairy farm, they are just big slow moving vehicles....
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:44 PM
Mar 26

They wouldn't really hurt anyone. Bulls are a different story, but nobody really keeps those where you can get to them anymore.

Cows aren't a threat to anyone. This guy is a Moran.

Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
39. Stupid argument.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:52 PM
Mar 26

Does the law say the firearm ALWAYS has to be locked up? Why would you need to have your firearm locked up when it is on your person?

Nevermind. It took me 7 seconds to skim through the law and it says any firearm NOT UNDER DIRECT CONTROL of the authorized person, needs to be stored safely to prevent a child from having access.

If fucking cows are such a threat (which I don't know, but that sounds incredibly stupid), then you can carry a firearm ON YOUR PERSON, which means under your direct control, while you and your family walk amongst those killers...Problem solved.

My family has owned firearms since I was a child. My firearms are safely stored and locked, unless they are under my direct control where I am personally and physically responsible for their safety. I do not walk around armed or have firearms laying around the house, accessible to others. I do not live in fear and don't see everyone as a potential adversary. A gun is a tool or equipment. It has the potential to be deadly. It isn't a personality. It isn't a "lifestyle". It shouldn't be revered or reviled. The people, like this idiot from Minnesota, and others who fetishize guns, are the ones who facilitate the problems that are created with guns.

Ocelot II

(115,932 posts)
40. Yes, but do you have cows? It's a different situation if you have cows.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 12:56 PM
Mar 26

They'll trample you to death if you so much as look at them sideways, and then they'll eat your carcass and go after your children. You'd better be carrying at all times if you are within a zip code of cows. Just ask the good senator from suburban Minneapolis, whose home is probably surrounded by furious cows.



Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
43. Why do you think I own a gun?
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 01:16 PM
Mar 26

My family got on the wrong side of some cows back in 1957. Long standing feud, losses on both sides...I don't like talking about it...

just in case.

Conservative arguments are always so bad because they rarely comport with reality. The only thing that is keeping Conservatism as a political ideology alive is the fact that the people who promote it, started off with immense wealth and power. Conservatives made a concerted effort in the 70's to buy up media. Since their ideas are not based in reality, they have to control the institutions which provide the narratives so that they could make up their own "reality". There are enough ignorant, scared, and bigoted people out there who latch on to their narrative to keep them afloat despite having fewer numbers.

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