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In It to Win It

(8,304 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 04:11 PM Mar 26

Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dust off 150-year-old Comstock Act to target abortion rights

Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dust off 150-year-old Comstock Act to target abortion rights


The US Supreme Court appears unlikely to agree with anti-abortion activists who want to overturn the federal government’s approval of a widely used abortion drug, a proposal that could have profound and far-reaching consequences for millions of Americans’ healthcare.

A majority of justices on the nine-member court on Tuesday were sceptical that a group of anti-abortion doctors have sufficient legal grounds to bring the case against the US Food and Drug Administration, which first approved the drug mifepristone in the year 2000.

But during Tuesday’s oral arguments in a case targeting the drug, at least two conservative justices floated the idea of dusting off a 151-year-old law that abortion rights advocates fear could be used to further strip access in the aftermath of the Supreme Court’s 2022 decision to revoke Americans’ constitutional right to abortion care.

The Comstock Act of 1873 targeted the mailing of contraceptives, pornography and any drug “intended for producing abortion, or for any indecent or immoral use.” It largely floundered under a series of congressional actions and the Supreme Court’s ruling in Roe v Wade 100 years later, but anti-abortion activists – as well as a federal judge who agreed to ban mifepristone, triggering the latest Supreme Court battle – have invoked the law following a decades-long anti-abortion crusade from conservative Christian legal groups.

A case before the Supreme Court argues that the FDA wrongfully approved mifepristone for use up to 10 weeks of pregnancy, and then improperly eliminated requirements that the drug should only be dispensed in person.

On Tuesday, Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito – who wrote the 2022 decision to overturn Roe v Wade – suggested that the FDA should have “considered” Comstock.

Justice Clarence Thomas later suggested that the manufacturer of the mifepristone drug Mifeprex may have “a Comstock problem.” He said it “specifically covers drugs such as yours.”
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Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dust off 150-year-old Comstock Act to target abortion rights (Original Post) In It to Win It Mar 26 OP
Well, They Want To Take Us Back Deep State Witch Mar 26 #1
Repeal it..... getagrip_already Mar 26 #2
Anthony Comstock limbicnuminousity Mar 26 #3
Comstock banned porn, sex toys and contraceptives as well NickB79 Mar 26 #4
I keep on thinking bdamomma Mar 26 #10
So the porn, and sex toys I received in the mail was illegal???? LiberalFighter Mar 26 #11
Various state laws. limbicnuminousity Mar 26 #14
It's still illegal for a man to kiss his wife on Sundays.in Hartford, Connecticut. Ping Tung Mar 26 #5
What the hell????? bdamomma Mar 26 #7
Back to 1950? -- Don't we wish. These freaks want to take us all the way back. What next? Hekate Mar 26 #6
Hekate just bdamomma Mar 26 #8
When even Amy Coney Barrett joins the other women in asking detailed reality based questions Hekate Mar 26 #18
Comstock was an evil sociopath DBoon Mar 26 #9
Omg bdamomma Mar 26 #15
Hasn't Clarence Thomas himself violated the Comstock act? jls4561 Mar 26 #12
But they don't want Democrats to use the Isurrection Act against Donny or his BlueKota Mar 26 #13
I'm guessing Mr. grab em by the you know what BlueKota Mar 26 #16
Are we allowed to burn them at the stake MOMFUDSKI Mar 26 #17

getagrip_already

(14,949 posts)
2. Repeal it.....
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 04:21 PM
Mar 26

If we get a speaker Jeffries, this should absolutely be one of the first bills he tees up.

We have to get rid of this time bomb.

limbicnuminousity

(1,407 posts)
3. Anthony Comstock
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 04:22 PM
Mar 26
In the spring of 1878, Anthony Comstock received word that a young woman who had attended one of Sara’s lectures in a church in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, had used a vaginal syringe that she bought from Sara, and then ulcerated her uterus. A doctor took care of her and she recovered. Anthony’s accounts of what happened are convoluted. The most important man in the lives of 19th-century women, he did not understand the difference between contraception and abortion and frequently conflated them in his arrest logbook accounts.



In the June/July 1878 issue, she ran a notice for a new item to be sold to Physiologist readers. It was called the “‘Comstock’ Syringe.” The ad stated that it was the same one Sara had sold Comstock himself. It was “especially adapted to purposes of cleanliness, and the cure and prevention of disease.” Sara concluded, “We trust that the sudden popularity brought to this valuable syringe by the benevolent agency of the enterprising Mr. Comstock, will prove to suffering womanhood the most beneficent act of his illustrious life.”

A later “Comstock syringe” ad mentioned her lawsuit as a selling point, to let purchasers know that to buy a douche named after Comstock was a form of political action. It said the syringe was used by married women for the “judicious and healthy regulation of the female functions” (ode for preventing pregnancy) and was “a Blessing to Womankind.”

Comstock was so furious to see a vaginal douche being advertised under his name that he got a different grand jury to indict her, without informing them that her case had previously been dismissed. The assistant district attorney secured a nolle prosequi, declining to prosecute, and admonished him for withholding information and not going through the proper channels.


More at: https://lithub.com/how-anthony-comstock-enemy-to-women-of-the-gilded-age-attempted-to-ban-contraception/

Alito continues in his tradition of referring to theocratic misogynists throughout history as a means for envisioning the future.



NickB79

(19,292 posts)
4. Comstock banned porn, sex toys and contraceptives as well
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 04:26 PM
Mar 26

So we have two USSC justices on record as being partial to banning all those things as well.

Run ads on TV pointing this out. Hang the GOP with their judges.

LiberalFighter

(51,284 posts)
11. So the porn, and sex toys I received in the mail was illegal????
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 05:31 PM
Mar 26

Received many issues of Penthouse and other publications back when I was much younger.

limbicnuminousity

(1,407 posts)
14. Various state laws.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 05:43 PM
Mar 26

The Texas obscenity statute is a statute prohibiting the sale of sex toys in Texas. The law was introduced in 1973, and was last updated in 2003. While the law was never formally repealed, in 2008 a U.S. District Judge released a report declaring it to be "facially unconstitutional and unenforceable." -wiki

The Anti-Obscenity Enforcement Act criminalizes the sale of sex toys in Alabama. And we’re not talking about kinkier stuff like double sided sex toys. Even the modest, classic vibrator is completely illegal. Due to its harshness, the law has generated a lot of controversy and serious debates across the US. -https://www.halt.org/love-laws-in-the-us-that-are-so-unbelievable-yet-real

In Georgia, you need to have a scientific or medical reason in order to buy a sex toy. The law led to a lawsuit that a lady by the name of Melissa Davenport brought on against the city of Sandy Springs. Unfortunately for Melissa, the federal appeals court ruled out in favor of the law and turned down her claim. -https://www.halt.org/love-laws-in-the-us-that-are-so-unbelievable-yet-real


Ping Tung

(765 posts)
5. It's still illegal for a man to kiss his wife on Sundays.in Hartford, Connecticut.
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 04:27 PM
Mar 26

Speaking of returning to old "Traditional Family Values".

Hekate

(91,003 posts)
6. Back to 1950? -- Don't we wish. These freaks want to take us all the way back. What next?
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 04:35 PM
Mar 26

The ducking stool? Burning at the stake?

Back in Colonial times, midwives & herbalists had preparations to “bring on the menses” and “regulate the menses” — and could advertise them in newspapers.

I keep thinking of that turn of phrase. What else is Mifepristone but a means of privately bringing on the menses in the very early stages of pregnancy?

bdamomma

(63,959 posts)
8. Hekate just
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 05:25 PM
Mar 26

looking at your pictures there of Offred the Handmaid is what they are wishing for.

WE are not going back!!!!!!!!!

Hekate

(91,003 posts)
18. When even Amy Coney Barrett joins the other women in asking detailed reality based questions
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 07:08 PM
Mar 26

…about women’s necessary medical treatment, you know there’s hope.

DBoon

(22,421 posts)
9. Comstock was an evil sociopath
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 05:27 PM
Mar 26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Comstock

Comstock was also opposed to woman suffragists, notably Victoria Claflin Woodhull and her sister Tennessee Celeste Claflin. The men's journal The Days' Doings popularized images of the sisters for three years and was instructed by its editor (while Comstock was present) to stop producing lewd images. Comstock also took legal action against the paper for advertising contraceptives. After the sisters published an exposé of an adulterous affair between the Reverend Henry Ward Beecher and Elizabeth Tilton, he had the sisters arrested under laws forbidding the use of the postal service to distribute "obscene material", specifically citing a mangled quotation from the Bible that Comstock found obscene. They were later acquitted of the charges.[16]

Less fortunate was Ida Craddock, who died by suicide on the eve of reporting to federal prison for distributing via the U.S. mail various sexually explicit marriage manuals that she had written.[16] Her final work was a lengthy public suicide note specifically condemning Comstock.

Comstock also arrested the prominent abortion provider Madame Restell. In 1878, he posed as a customer seeking birth control for his wife. Restell provided him with pills and he returned the next day with the police, and arrested her. Rather than face the resulting trial, she committed suicide soon after it began.[17]

Through his various campaigns, he destroyed 15 tons of books, 284,000 pounds of plates for printing "objectionable" books, and nearly 4,000,000 pictures.[5] He claimed that "books are feeders for brothels."[18]

Comstock boasted that he was responsible for 4,000 arrests[19] and claimed he drove 15 persons to suicide in his "fight for the young".[20]


(my bolding)

He was also an influence on a young law student named J. Edgar Hoover, who showed interest in his causes and methods

Comstock would fit in perfectly with today's Republican Party

jls4561

(1,268 posts)
12. Hasn't Clarence Thomas himself violated the Comstock act?
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 05:33 PM
Mar 26

“Long Dong Silver “ and the rest of a younger Clarence’ s porn collection must have been shipped via USPS or UPS or DHL or something similar.
I believe you, Anita!

BlueKota

(1,860 posts)
13. But they don't want Democrats to use the Isurrection Act against Donny or his
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 05:37 PM
Mar 26

congressional enablers because it's too old and vague. Republicans are never ones to let hypocrisy stand in their way. Yet we are supposed to just trust they won't let their orange messiah skate. That's like jumping in crocodile invested waters and thinking you're not going to end up as a lunch buffet.

BlueKota

(1,860 posts)
16. I'm guessing Mr. grab em by the you know what
Tue Mar 26, 2024, 05:49 PM
Mar 26

has had more than a few porn and sex objects shipped to him as well but he won't likely get charged because he, Clarance and Sammy don't have to follow the law like the rest of us less than equal people.

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