they allegedly attacked the consulate in Damascus.
Other than that, I have no words.

I was just correcting the misinformation, nothing more, nothing less.

who sponsored and backed the Hezbollah attack inside Israel to support Hamas. Israel's attack on those Iranian military commanders was retaliation for the attacks that they sponsored inside Israel.

Iran is backing and aiding Hamas, Hezbollah, and Yemeni Houthis in their attacks on Israel and on international ships in the Red Sea.

Iran is using Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis to fight a proxy war for absolute control of the region.

One wrong word and they just have to argue and finally insult. I don't know why, maybe they're just cantankerous and lonely.

I was only correcting wrong information, the person I was having a conversation with decided to escalate it.
I can assure you that I'm not lonely nor cantankerous, that's just your opinion, not fact.
And I didn't insult, as was later proven, again, that was just your opinion, one not shared with those that matter.
Please, have a great Tues.

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Whatever. And, I will have a nice Tuesday.

Seems Warmonger Netanyahu intentionally extended the length of the war.

Why? Quite possibly to continue to avoid facing the consequences in Israel of his corruption.

seems odd

Israel attacked Iranian military commanders at the Iranian consolate in Syria as retaliation for an attack inside Israel by Hezbollah that was sponsored and backed by the Iranian military.

was Iran's attempt to widen the war against Israel. Israel's single retaliatory attack on Iranian military commanders inside Syria who were behind the attacks on Israel signalled that Israel is willing and able to defend itself. Iran made a face saving counter attack on Israel Saturday and Biden aided Israel's defense. End of any additional widening of the war on that front.

But Iran has already widened the war beyond Gaza and Israel with its backing of Houthi attacks on ships in the Red Sea. The US and our allies are protecting those ships. So Iran has drawn the following into the Hamas-Israel war: Yemen (via Houthi missiles against Israel), Hezbollah (Syria and Jordan), and the US and our allies in protection of Red Sea shipping.

So who is it that is widening the Hamas-Israel war and trying to escalate it? Who started the war with a horrific attack on Israel? (Hint: It's a terrorist organization that has Iran's support and backing.)

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saw a way to extend the war, draw the US in, and stay out of jail for his corruption.

Consulate s enjoy the same foreign soil/territory status as embassies. Do you have another point?

Not all of them are republicans.

This is hardly a matter of 'race' or color, It's one of fairness and common sense -- If you hit someone, they will hit you back.

If an American is calling something out that has an obvious racial perspective, it probably because race is a factor.

Racism is actually more of a human problem than a national one, imo. Countries with no racism are usually those with only one race.
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If we're going to go straight for the absurd.

Judaism, like Islam, is a religion, not a race.
Apart from that fact, certain morons seem to view anyone not of European, or purely European origin, to be "non-white" and that is false.

Never mind!
I think its ridiculous as well.
Elon Musk posted about it not too long back. Its a white supremacist line of crap; that Jews push "anti white" agendas.

It's one of the weirdest memes I've ever heard.

They bombed Syria WITHOUT notifying their only ‘ally.’ How fucked is that?

That is all

Mostly targeting airports.

Israel just bombs them back. Been going on for decades.
Since terrorism is involved, the countries just keep going back and forth and don't make too big of a deal out of it with regards to international law.

These people have been killing each other for a LONG time and we have never been able to stop them from doing it. Best case is try to manage it as POTUS is doing, worst case is us making it far worse, like we did w Iraq.

If this weren’t a significant escalation in the conflict, it wouldn’t have been treated as such in the media. Shit’s getting real.

from it's own territory would be an escalation. One that would surely invite a direct response from Israel on Iranian soil.

Israeli drone strike killed an Al Quds General and members of Iranian Government. Hope it was worth it.

Iran has alot of pride and everyone knows it.

In all likelihood Israel will shoot the vast majority of the drones down and of those theat get through, most will not hit anything of strategic or tactical value. I suspect it will stop there.

The media will sensationalize a stubbed toe if they think it will get them more clicks.

-- Mal

The only family I have left really are my husbands family and they are Jewish. I love them all very much. AFAIK they are all strictly on the side of Israel no matter what. NO MATTER WHAT, they can do no wrong. I would be pleased to hear more diversity but all I ever hear is that Israel can do no wrong. My husband has come all the way around to almost how I feel about the whole thing but it took a while for him to figure it out and I could not really even ever say much without making it miserable to live here.

Iran might target his butt

If they kill the prime minister, America is suddenly in the war.

When Israel bombed the embassy, I thought it was an obvious attempt to start a wider conflict that would draw the US further in.

Embassy/consulate - that is a minor detail. International law was violated with impunity yet again.

I think Smelvis & Co. were informed of this strike ahead of time. They no doubt signed off on it.

Is Russia an ally of Iran. Is Russia involved in this???

he'd like nothing better than to embroil the US in a mid east war to divert attention from his illegal invasion of Ukraine.

wouldn't doubt that Putin has his filthy hands on this.

I am watching both BBC News and AlJazerra. Different views.

are very close to each other according to each of them. We can't even get Netanyahu to condemn the poisonings in England for example. Putin and Netanyahu routinely express great admiration for each other and have very frequent meetings. There is a very large group of dual citizens who live in both countries and Putin has given big financial support for the ones living in Israel. I'm pointing the "warm relationship" out because it is important to also understand in light of major arms agreements between Israeli defense contractors and Russia.

And another when Iran-backed Hezbollah launched rockets into Israel.

And another when Iran-backed Houthis started hijacking ships in the international waters of the Red Sea.

And the final straw was when Iran sent its top commanders into Syria to... do what? Sue for peace in the civil war there?

Iran funds Hamas, and I believe Russia is behind all of that as well.

Netanyahu walked into it with eyes wide open because he also can use a distraction to keep himself out of jail.

Would Putin have tried it when Trump was president? I dunno, he kind of had all of them backed into their corners because he's a deranged mf'er. But then again so is Putin.

I really hope Biden can keep it from further escalating, and that he's consulting with Bill Clinton behind the scenes - Bill is the only one in half a century who has even come close to bringing peace to that region.

This consulate attack was an aspect of that effort. It's a change to a more direct confrontation with Iran that both sides have avoided up to this point. It's inflammatory, especially while the conflict in Gaza continues, and unwelcome.

That said, I can understand why they wouldn't want another Hezbollah-like Iranian client state in Syria.

The hawks in Israel seem to be in charge. War suits them and their political goals just fine. Not so sure about Iran.

Where does it go from here? A few exchanges of rockets and bombs? What is either side accomplishing?

Beats me.

Iran will tally a few points with their public. I didn't think Iran would tuck their tales under their butts after being attacked in this manner.

In the end, Israel eliminated an Iranian general and possible people who were responsible for attacks on Israel. (Hezbollah)
Did eliminating an Iranian general in this manner accomplish something? Was it worth the risk? Or does it just provoke retaliation? I have no idea.

said attack. Good.
Bibi’s is history - take that to the bank.

wants to take the US down with him.

But he's desperate to stay in power by milking the alliance between the US and Israel. He is such a pig. He's trump with a brain and talent. Israelis have turned out in the biggest protests in history against Bibi, and yet he stays to ramp up the heat in any way he can.

And that doesn't look likely in the next few months, and the next few months are what matter in this war.

said attack. Good.
Bibi’s is history - take that to the bank.

Not food service workers. There’s a gigantic difference.

you know, Israel bad no matter what.

I've no idea where they've been, but at least you got the part about it being a consulate and not an Embassy right, unlike in the other thread that claims it was an Embassy.
Very good.

Ok, whatever you say.
Is this the end of our conversation now?
Inquiring minds want to know.

It would seem I was right in the first place when I said it was a Consulate and not an Embassy, which was my whole point in the first place, but some here wanted to turn into something it was not.

Israel bombed the consulate in the embassy compound; it was adjacent to the embassy.

The general rule doesn't force reality into compliance.

While clear and explicit, it wasn't always in the first 3 paragraphs of the story, and "embassy compound" quickly and lazily was reduced to "embassy."

A violation of international law? Sure. But the general was there coordinating a terrorist group and its attacks on a third country with other Iranian proxies. Also violating international law and claiming immunity by doing it in space that is considered generally inviolable.

usually in a city that is NOT the capital. Embassies are usually inn the capital

"An embassy is an official headquarters for U.S. diplomats and government representatives serving in a foreign country"
Consulates are in different areas of the host country.

Embassies are also NOT considered foreign soil, although thats what is commonly & incorrectly believed. .

Embassy – The diplomatic delegation from one country to another.
Consulate – A building that supports the embassy in its host country.

"D E L E G A T I O N " = poeple.

There can be more than one Consulate in a country, any one of those consulates, generally in the Capitol will hold the Embassy.

What's not to get?

A headquarters is a building not people. The place can be empty & its still the embassy. But ok. Consulates are not embassies either, again right from the diplomacy site.

physical location.

An Embassy is PART OF a Consulate.

https://diplomacy.state.gov/teacher-resources/what-are-embassies-consulates-and-missions-video/

The following terms are referenced in this video.

Relationships – How things are connected.
Embassy – The diplomatic delegation from one country to another.
Consulate – A building that supports the embassy in its host country.
Mission – A diplomatic representation to an international organization. Mission also refers to an embassy or a consulate.
Ambassador – The lead official representative to a foreign country.
Commerce – Trade; the act of buying and selling.
Culture – Shared attitudes, values, goals, and practices shared by groups of people.
Symbol – A sign, shape, or object that represents something else.
Non-governmental organization – An organization independent of the government.
Institution – An established organization.