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babylonsister

(171,075 posts)
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:52 AM Apr 16

Reality of Being a Criminal Defendant Dawns on Trump



https://politicalwire.com/2024/04/16/reality-of-being-a-criminal-defendant-dawns-on-trump/

Reality of Being a Criminal Defendant Dawns on Trump
April 16, 2024 at 6:33 am EDT By Taegan Goddard


“Donald Trump is learning a hard lesson: Criminal defendants don’t get to set their own schedules,” Politico reports.

“Three times on Monday the former president asked Justice Juan Merchan to cut him loose from his hush money trial to attend to other matters — some personal, some political and some legal. Three times the judge responded with, essentially, ‘eh, we’ll see.’”

“It’s a jarring new reality for Trump, who has been accustomed to setting the agenda for most of his adult life — and, in the years since his presidency, has bounced between his sunny Florida resort and political rallies brimming with adoring fans. But this spring, he’ll have to spend most weekdays in a drab 15th floor county courtroom in a city with very little MAGA.”


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Reality of Being a Criminal Defendant Dawns on Trump (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 16 OP
shithole knows............................. Lovie777 Apr 16 #1
A bit of tautology there? soldierant Apr 16 #53
He is a slow learner Redleg Apr 16 #2
What? Ya did t hear what he told ya yesterday? 3Hotdogs Apr 16 #40
For a narcissist like him ActRaiser Apr 16 #3
Well at least he is still the center of attention PatSeg Apr 16 #9
Not in a good way malaise Apr 16 #11
Oh yes, very good PatSeg Apr 16 #14
After week 4 or so, he's gonna enter the "I don't wanna go! phase and act out to make that happen. n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 Apr 17 #57
Oh yes PatSeg Apr 17 #60
Not really. He's 'over there' while others say things about him he can't react to. localroger Apr 16 #28
"basically a desk lamp" llmart Apr 16 #32
A desk lamp with a burned out... 3catwoman3 Apr 16 #49
Oh yes, I agree PatSeg Apr 16 #33
Maybe he's on something.... returnee Apr 16 #36
Exactly, ShazzieB Apr 16 #41
Welcome to DU, ActRaiser! calimary Apr 16 #52
Wait until he has to report for prison. Kid Berwyn Apr 16 #4
That's what I want to see! 2naSalit Apr 16 #5
So do I!!! calimary Apr 16 #39
This picture of him arriving at the trial is a taste of things to come: Dave Bowman Apr 16 #45
NO. He'll receive the "shocker" johnnyfins Apr 16 #50
Political rallies brimming with Icanthinkformyself Apr 16 #6
The M$M Pouts Just Like TFG modrepub Apr 16 #8
Lawrence O'Donnell was talking about this last night. ShazzieB Apr 16 #44
It kills me that one of his requests was to be excused from the trial to attend his son's graduation. As if he gives two LaMouffette Apr 16 #7
It was a dark and Stormy night.... SergeStorms Apr 16 #26
Maybe he can talk the school into having the graduation on the weekend. PurgedVoter Apr 16 #38
We know nothing about Barron, but if he somehow turned out to be a halfway decent human being, can you imagine LaMouffette Apr 18 #61
Odor in the Court! Blue Owl Apr 16 #10
😀😀😀😂😂 malaise Apr 16 #15
Snort!!! niyad Apr 16 #16
It's definitely a two snorter. twodogsbarking Apr 16 #22
Lol, I almost choke on my drink. Dave Bowman Apr 16 #46
I'll have a cheeseberder! Permanut Apr 16 #54
The brown acid is not very good... kentuck Apr 16 #12
Doturd is learning a "hard lesson". Yeah, right...... AZ8theist Apr 16 #13
Psychology history shows that sleep is a common ego defense mechanism against facing reality. ancianita Apr 16 #21
For the first time in his life, Trump is experiencing accountability for his many crimes dlk Apr 16 #17
I just realized Farmer-Rick Apr 16 #18
Something good has come from this goat rodeo already. Hugin Apr 16 #19
Millionaire,.... ? Try 12X BILLIONAIRE,... magicarpet Apr 16 #34
Yeah, he's been broke for a while. Dave Bowman Apr 16 #47
They are looking for a quid pro quo with a favorable return on their investments. magicarpet Apr 16 #48
Great. NanaCat Apr 17 #59
"Very little MAGA"? Personally I think prosecuting Trump makes America great. CaptainTruth Apr 16 #20
Putin jail. Soon. twodogsbarking Apr 16 #23
THIS is one reason it is so good to see Dump in court. He begins to get a taste of what his world will be like if he Martin68 Apr 16 #24
Agree with all sentiment, including brown acid. haha Prairie_Seagull Apr 16 #25
Nothing I relish more than seeing a dumbfuck authoritarian type having the rules in face and beiong forced to obey! brewens Apr 16 #27
Trump's new tactic is to sleep through the entire trial and then claim, "I did not know what was going on." RKP5637 Apr 16 #29
Yeah, as if that has NEVER occurred with a defendant before! Wednesdays Apr 16 #31
Isn't sleeping in court considered CONTEMPT OF COURT? Captain Zero Apr 17 #58
Reality and drumpf are strangers... soon to be well acquainted. liberalla Apr 16 #30
I'm hoping to hear nocoincidences Apr 16 #35
THAT made me laugh. calimary Apr 16 #56
Hahahahahaha! Ziggysmom Apr 16 #37
... orangecrush Apr 16 #42
Here come da Judge orangecrush Apr 16 #43
Trump & I have this one thing in common; oldsoftie Apr 16 #51
Trump's "hush money trial" is a criminal trial for election interference. Beartracks Apr 16 #55

Lovie777

(12,300 posts)
1. shithole knows.............................
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:57 AM
Apr 16

he doesn't care because he feels he is above the law. shithole's whole life is a lie complete with conspiracy theories which is his strength with the insane, the evangelists and downright people who just hate.

Redleg

(5,814 posts)
2. He is a slow learner
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:59 AM
Apr 16

He should have figured this our at least a year ago when the first indictments came out.

3Hotdogs

(12,395 posts)
40. What? Ya did t hear what he told ya yesterday?
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:38 PM
Apr 16

He’s going through all these trials and tribulations and unjust Soros prosecutions

AND

He’s doing it for you and me.

ActRaiser

(32 posts)
3. For a narcissist like him
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:00 AM
Apr 16

The experience has to be all but unendurable. The lack of deference alone, the very fact that he is being processed and treated like (ugh) other people, should be enough to make him paint the walls with Heinz and its 57 varieties.

PatSeg

(47,541 posts)
9. Well at least he is still the center of attention
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:40 AM
Apr 16

But he has no control over anything which must be driving him crazy.

Trump is often compared to a toddler and in this case, that really applies. A toddler always wants to be the center of attention, but does not want to sit still and be quiet.

PatSeg

(47,541 posts)
14. Oh yes, very good
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:54 AM
Apr 16

I picture him sitting still every day for weeks. It is really hard to even imagine!

PatSeg

(47,541 posts)
60. Oh yes
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 09:09 AM
Apr 17

I can picture him throwing tantrums and refusing to get dressed. They'll have to keep a Dr. Feel Good on hand each morning to give him medication to keep him docile and cooperative.

localroger

(3,629 posts)
28. Not really. He's 'over there' while others say things about him he can't react to.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 10:17 AM
Apr 16

He's "MISTER Trump over there, the defendant." He's basically a desk lamp. Yeah we all expect him to violate those orders toot sweet but he managed to make it through Monday without melting down. After yesterday six more weeks of that must feel like eternity to him. All together now: "AWWWWWwwwwwww..."

llmart

(15,542 posts)
32. "basically a desk lamp"
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 10:48 AM
Apr 16

Love it!

I think the only way he could make it through Monday was because he was probably drugged with something which is why he fell asleep too.

PatSeg

(47,541 posts)
33. Oh yes, I agree
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 10:49 AM
Apr 16

In a sense he IS the center of attention as the trial is about him, but as I said, he has no control over much of anything and he has to sit still and be quiet. He finally seems to realize there are very real consequences if he doesn't behave. Six weeks of this will be a nightmare. I can't imagine him surviving it.

Just imagine the tantrums every night after court.

ShazzieB

(16,439 posts)
41. Exactly,
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 01:57 PM
Apr 16

I can't even imagine what a rude awakening this is for him.

Most of us start learning what "No" means when we're toddlers. This is a full grown, elderly man who is just beginning to kinda sorta get a little taste of what it means. Oh, Donald, you have SO MUCH more learning to do!

Icanthinkformyself

(220 posts)
6. Political rallies brimming with
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:16 AM
Apr 16

half empty 2000 seat venues filled with people who, collectively, have five teeth. Man, the media sucks with it's memes that support a dictator wannabe who would put most of those very media people in jail. Schmucks.

modrepub

(3,498 posts)
8. The M$M Pouts Just Like TFG
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:34 AM
Apr 16

Came across an article covering the first day of this trail. The reporter seemed to be disappointed after noting the lack luster public response. The number of press people outnumbered the TFG supporters, who outnumbered the number of TFG protesters. No count on the number of security people involved in this circus.

I don't think the M$M realizes just how many of us would really like to f-cking move on from this sh-t show (but we can't until this stupid election is over). There are precious few in this country who genuinely haven't made up their mind about TFG.

There's a term applicable to the M$M's relationship with TFG. It's "press" and a word that starts with "wh" and rhymes with bore. Or more nicely put, algorithm chasers.

ShazzieB

(16,439 posts)
44. Lawrence O'Donnell was talking about this last night.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 02:05 PM
Apr 16

He said he took a walk Monday morning, and there were maybe a couple dozen Trumpers outside the courthouse and at least as many anti-Trump protesters.

It was so quiet, according to Lawrence, that there were babies sleeping outside the courthouse. He took pictures to prove it and showed them on TV, all while talking about how many Trump supporters live within a two hour drive of that courthouse, compared to the few that showed up. I was in stitches!

P.S. I should have checked the Cable News Clips before posting! Here's a link to Rhiannon12866's post with the video of this segment:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/132116616

LaMouffette

(2,037 posts)
7. It kills me that one of his requests was to be excused from the trial to attend his son's graduation. As if he gives two
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:21 AM
Apr 16

shits about any of his children's important life events. Plus, we all know where he was when Barron was four months old.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
26. It was a dark and Stormy night....
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 10:15 AM
Apr 16

and a man who's never paid the consequences for any of his actions, made the biggest mistake of his entire, wretched life.

Hopefully, one day he'll realize that his selfishness was his downfall, but I'm not going to waste a moment of my time waiting for that particular day.

PurgedVoter

(2,218 posts)
38. Maybe he can talk the school into having the graduation on the weekend.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 12:29 PM
Apr 16

It matters so much and Dopey Diaper Don has sooo much money, maybe a couple of million could get the school to reschedule or have a small private ceremony for his son's graduation where he could take over as speaker and say what he wants. I am sure his son would love that.

LaMouffette

(2,037 posts)
61. We know nothing about Barron, but if he somehow turned out to be a halfway decent human being, can you imagine
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 08:42 AM
Apr 18

how mortified he must be to have Diaper Don (love that!) for a father?

AZ8theist

(5,477 posts)
13. Doturd is learning a "hard lesson". Yeah, right......
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:53 AM
Apr 16

...that's why he fell asleep twice, right? Some "hard lesson".....

ancianita

(36,112 posts)
21. Psychology history shows that sleep is a common ego defense mechanism against facing reality.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 09:59 AM
Apr 16

Classic ego defenses are denial, displacement, projection, rationalization, reaction formation, repression, and sublimation.

At trump's age, add sleep, since he spends most of his waking hours using the classic defenses -- the public calls them lies -- to prop his narcissistic personality disorder.

dlk

(11,572 posts)
17. For the first time in his life, Trump is experiencing accountability for his many crimes
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 09:23 AM
Apr 16

No doubt, it’s a deep shock.

Farmer-Rick

(10,195 posts)
18. I just realized
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 09:41 AM
Apr 16

I'm better off than a multi millionaire who once got the most electoral votes and trashed the white house.

I can nap when I want with no one calling me out for it. I can go where I want, when I want. I may not live in a swanky hotel or fly in rented private jets but I have a much better life than the Stinking Nazi will ever have.

And I saw all my childrens graduations.

magicarpet

(14,157 posts)
34. Millionaire,.... ? Try 12X BILLIONAIRE,...
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 11:01 AM
Apr 16

.... by the Mango Menaces estimates.

You don't think he would exaggerate and/or embellish..... right ?

He is rich,... so very rich,.. especially if he is spending someone else's hard earned money.

Dave Bowman

(1,870 posts)
47. Yeah, he's been broke for a while.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 02:53 PM
Apr 16

Unbelievable that there are still people who are giving/lending him money.

magicarpet

(14,157 posts)
48. They are looking for a quid pro quo with a favorable return on their investments.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 03:00 PM
Apr 16

One hand washes the other.

Scratch my back,.. I'll scratch yours.

CaptainTruth

(6,597 posts)
20. "Very little MAGA"? Personally I think prosecuting Trump makes America great.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 09:54 AM
Apr 16

Put him in jail & we can make America great again.

Martin68

(22,835 posts)
24. THIS is one reason it is so good to see Dump in court. He begins to get a taste of what his world will be like if he
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 10:10 AM
Apr 16

goes to prison. He will learn how it feels to be totally powerless. Complainers and spoiled brats will incur the wrath of fellow inmates.

Prairie_Seagull

(3,332 posts)
25. Agree with all sentiment, including brown acid. haha
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 10:13 AM
Apr 16

Just point out one tiny thing. 'We'll see' is not a straight out NO. Hope judge is just laying down the carpet to later be pulled out from under his feet.

brewens

(13,603 posts)
27. Nothing I relish more than seeing a dumbfuck authoritarian type having the rules in face and beiong forced to obey!
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 10:16 AM
Apr 16

That really brings the man baby out. LOL

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
29. Trump's new tactic is to sleep through the entire trial and then claim, "I did not know what was going on."
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 10:27 AM
Apr 16

I am innocent!

Wednesdays

(17,389 posts)
31. Yeah, as if that has NEVER occurred with a defendant before!
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 10:41 AM
Apr 16

I'm sure most judges are wise to that gambit, and have ways of dealing with it.

nocoincidences

(2,224 posts)
35. I'm hoping to hear
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 11:12 AM
Apr 16

a very loud and, of course, aromatic, sleep fart blare out and wake him the fuck up to everyone laughing at him.

I think it's bound to happen...eventually. Six weeks is a long time for a fat flaccid man in a diaper to keep his shit together.

oldsoftie

(12,569 posts)
51. Trump & I have this one thing in common;
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 07:20 PM
Apr 16

Far as I can tell, he's like me in the respect that he hates being stuck in the same place for a long time. Thats why my job doing field work was what I needed; go to A, then move on to B, etc
I think he's going to snap in some way at some point being stuck there all day every day

Beartracks

(12,819 posts)
55. Trump's "hush money trial" is a criminal trial for election interference.
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 09:26 PM
Apr 16

Saw a DU post earlier that made this point, citing one of the TV shows that avoids the "hush money" framing and puts the court proceedings in their proper context.

Sorry, I don't recall whose post or which show. But it's a damn good point to be made!

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