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babylonsister

(171,131 posts)
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 07:23 AM Apr 17

Trump Makes It Kind of Impossible to Be an 'Impartial' Juror

https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-ian-black-trump-makes-it-kind-of-impossible-to-be-an-impartial-juror?ref=home?ref=home

Michael Ian Black: Trump Makes It Kind of Impossible to Be an ‘Impartial’ Juror
ROUGH JUSTICE
I vetted myself as a potential juror—and even though I despise the ex-president, I could fairly sit in judgment of his alleged crimes.
Michael Ian Black
Published Apr. 17, 2024 4:49AM EDT

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Even so, I believe I could reach an even-handed verdict regarding a person who regards even-handedness as weakness.

Because I’m a better American than Donald Trump.

So are you.

So is anybody who regards our Constitution as something grander than a Bazooka Joe comic.

Trump understands our judicial system better than most, having spent his entire career suing and being sued. The man has probably spent more time in courtrooms than Judge Judy. So when he complains that he is being unfairly targeted by overzealous prosecutors and compromised judges, he understands the prejudicial effects of his words.

Trump understands that the only person undermining the legitimacy of the proceedings is Trump.

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I trust that whoever ends up getting selected to sit in that jury box will do their best to be impartial. I believe that they will endeavor to produce a correct verdict based on the evidence and the law. I believe that every single person in that courtroom is a better American than the defendant, and it is because they are better than he will ever be that I believe Donald John Trump will receive the verdict he deserves.
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Trump Makes It Kind of Impossible to Be an 'Impartial' Juror (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 17 OP
I'm afraid this traitor is going to make eye contact Submariner Apr 17 #1
Agreed... impartial has a specific meaning here JT45242 Apr 17 #2
Completely Agree ProfessorGAC Apr 17 #6
Most decent people don't like jerks, crooks and a-holes. C_U_L8R Apr 17 #3
I would love to think I could be impartial... MiHale Apr 17 #4
I fear that all the ones who "have no opinion" about him are either morons or Scrivener7 Apr 17 #5

Submariner

(12,521 posts)
1. I'm afraid this traitor is going to make eye contact
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 07:42 AM
Apr 17

with a maga-juror candidate, and gets a wink indicating “I’ve got your back, sir”, then treason wins again.

JT45242

(2,334 posts)
2. Agreed... impartial has a specific meaning here
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 07:46 AM
Apr 17

Do I dislike him, sure

But impartial in jury legalese means can I vote guilty or not guilty based on what I hear in a court room. Can I apply the basic argument equation of

evidence plus reasoning --> conclusion

I think even the most die hard of us here could. If the prosecution failed to prove its case, we would vote not guilty because we believe in the rule of law. Period. I believe we are a country of laws and must live up to that.

I don't live in the jurisdiction of any of TFG cases, but I could be legally impartial.

ProfessorGAC

(65,555 posts)
6. Completely Agree
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 08:17 AM
Apr 17

I think one can go in, already assuming the defendant is a criminal, and still compartmentalize the specific case at hand.
That's how some mob bosses got acquitted. Who didn't know Gotti was a crook? But, aside from tampering, the state couldn't prove guilt IN THAT CASE! So, those jurors did their job just fine.
Like you, I think I could do it too.

C_U_L8R

(45,052 posts)
3. Most decent people don't like jerks, crooks and a-holes.
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 08:00 AM
Apr 17

Maybe one can be impartial, but Trump sure makes finding guilt easy.

MiHale

(9,835 posts)
4. I would love to think I could be impartial...
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 08:09 AM
Apr 17

But being very honest with myself…I know I couldn’t. He took an oath, he recited a vow, to the American populace that he would do his best to uphold the laws of the land. To protect and preserve the Constitution.

He shattered his oath. He never had any intention of “protecting and preserving” … he lied on the podium taking the oath of office.

Yes, I’m a better American than he is, way better. That is one reason I would have to refuse to do that service.





Scrivener7

(51,104 posts)
5. I fear that all the ones who "have no opinion" about him are either morons or
Wed Apr 17, 2024, 08:10 AM
Apr 17

secret trumpers. Or, of course, both.

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