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FHRRK

(506 posts) Wed Apr 17, 2024, 03:27 PM Apr 17

Hey DUers, can ask a favor? It is a Fraud Trial, a Falsifying of Records Trial, A tRump is a Friggen Crook Trial

Rather than a Hush Money Trial. May seem minor and picky but he committed fraud, didn't pay taxes, likely impacted an election which directly impacted Clinton and impacted all of us.

MAGAts will minimize it by claiming he just diddled a Porn star and paid her off.

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Hey DUers, can ask a favor? It is a Fraud Trial, a Falsifying of Records Trial, A tRump is a Friggen Crook Trial (Original Post) FHRRK Apr 17 OP

Personally, I like it being called a Hush Money trial onenote Apr 17 #1

Election interference. onecaliberal Apr 17 #2

Actually - Your definition is likely the most accurate FHRRK Apr 17 #3

My concern with calling it an election interference trial is that it could confuse jurors and the public. onenote Apr 17 #4

Stop. Calling it "Hush Money" trial. It's election fraud. Grins Apr 17 #5

Why didn't Bragg charge him with election interference? MichMan Apr 17 #6

That case is being tried in DC and is national in scope. Grins Apr 18 #8

Are the DC charges based on the Stormy payout ? MichMan Apr 18 #9

There aren't any tax charges in his criminal trial. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 17 #7

onenote

(42,779 posts)

1. Personally, I like it being called a Hush Money trial

Reply to FHRRK (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 03:30 PM

Apr 17

It emphasizes that he was cooking the books trying to hide his affair.

onecaliberal

(32,916 posts)

2. Election interference.

Reply to FHRRK (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 03:31 PM

Apr 17

FHRRK

(506 posts)

3. Actually - Your definition is likely the most accurate

Reply to onecaliberal (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 03:34 PM

Apr 17

CNN
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Judge Juan Merchan began the long-awaited Manhattan criminal trial of former President Donald Trump on Monday by interviewing prospective jurors. Debate has been raging about every aspect of this historic trial – including what to call it. It is the first of four expected criminal trials involving Trump, and the only one in American history to feature a former president as the defendant.

Norman Eisen
Norman Eisen CNN
Although it has long been referred to as the “hush money” case, the judge’s first substantive words to the jury made clear that is wrong. We should call it an “election interference” trial going forward.

When the judge described the case to prospective jurors, he said. “The allegations are in substance, that Donald Trump falsified business records to conceal an agreement with others to unlawfully influence the 2016 presidential election.” (Trump has pleaded not guilty and denied all wrongdoing in the cases against him.)

onenote

(42,779 posts)

4. My concern with calling it an election interference trial is that it could confuse jurors and the public.

Reply to FHRRK (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 03:55 PM

Apr 17

He hasn't been convicted of election interference and the charges listed in the indictment -- the charges that the jury will assess -- do not include a charge of election interference. So it could be confusing if they perceive this as an election interference trial but aren't being called upon to decide if trump violated the law against election interference

Grins

(7,239 posts)

5. Stop. Calling it "Hush Money" trial. It's election fraud.

Reply to FHRRK (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 04:04 PM

Apr 17

The porcine bag did it to win election.

The Guardian:

“In court documents, prosecutors note “with pressure mounting and the election approaching”, Trump appeared desperate to keep Daniels quiet. Cohen paid her on 26 October 2016, just 11 days before election day.”

Note: This is 19-days AFTER the Access Hollywood tape came out.