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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBiden is giving Israel an additional $1B in weapons???
Honestly, this may not sit well with Gen Z, who we really need in November..
I really wish we had a middle ground and hope Biden and the DCC had a plan to get the ones back who are upset, and I believe there are ALOT of them.
claudette
(3,640 posts)mistake to help Israel destroy Gaza and West Bank
Joinfortmill
(14,525 posts)Hope he attached some strings.
DemocratInPa
(381 posts)He told Israel not to hit Iran and they didn't listen, he told them to work for peace in Gaza and they aren't listening..
I am shocked he is giving them that much after everything.
jrthin
(4,843 posts)MOMFUDSKI
(5,823 posts)priority is to keep the country safe. Israel is our only ally in the region. He is following the playbook. But it is biting him in the ass. There is a risk he loses the election over this. Hoping it can get ironed out before November. Bibi is dividing the US and making Putin happy. Hell of a mess!
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MorbidButterflyTat
(1,883 posts)sarisataka
(18,942 posts)Until the Democratic party can give us a candidate who isn't subservient?
Basic LA
(2,047 posts)It's Uncle Sam.
Scrivener7
(51,093 posts)sarisataka
(18,942 posts)And negativity towards President Biden. Implications, if not outright accusations of being an Israeli puppet.
Much of it echoes those who are going to withhold their votes from him. So I was following the logical path to see if it is the same conclusion.
It was a question, not suggestion.
Scrivener7
(51,093 posts)sarisataka
(18,942 posts)Of President Biden. That there are those willing to let Trump win because of that criticism is my concern.
Your focus seems different. I apologize for any offense my analogy caused.
Cha
(298,119 posts)Mahalo for brining it to Light
It's obvious to me. .
Scrivener7
(51,093 posts)introduce the idea of not voting for Biden over this when no one else is even suggesting it.
Okie dokey.
sarisataka
(18,942 posts)My position is quite simple. This November I will vote for Biden regardless of his support for Israel. Not everyone is willing to do that.
Also I do not believe there is a Jewish conspiracy controlling the United States, the government and the President.
onenote
(42,863 posts)It's right there in the OP's post.
BannonsLiver
(16,548 posts)Totally not an antisemitic trope or anything.
Basic LA
(2,047 posts)It covers everything!
BannonsLiver
(16,548 posts)Basic LA
(2,047 posts)Just a hoary slander to stifle dissent. Let's look again at 13,000 dead children in Gaza, and those maimed for life, and those being purposely starved to death. Kids. Babies. Antisemites?
BannonsLiver
(16,548 posts)While using those in Gaza as human shields when confronted over it.
Basic LA
(2,047 posts)And now the human-shields cliché. Tired tropes indeed.
Ceasefire now.
BannonsLiver
(16,548 posts)sarisataka
(18,942 posts)revmclaren
(2,579 posts)Little by little they are weeding themselves out.
Oopsie Daisy
(2,811 posts)Cha
(298,119 posts)they're the ones who REJECT!!!
edisdead
(1,967 posts)Ceasefire then, ceasefire tomorrow it will end the same
. Another attack on Israel.
I dont like the Israeli response but one side kicked the hornets nest while a ceasefire was in place. All in order to divide the left in the west to usher in authoritarianism.
EX500rider
(10,893 posts)And not 16, 17 & 18yo Hamas members shot while firing rockets & RPG's & AK-47's?
I am guessing not since hamas intentionally lists their younger dead troops as "children" for the propaganda boost.
ProfessorGAC
(65,464 posts)...a long time for a cogent answer to a fair question.
tritsofme
(17,449 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,548 posts)sarisataka
(18,942 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,030 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(1,883 posts)I thought this was up to CONGRESS; the US president is not a dictator.
Cosmocat
(14,595 posts)Its tiresome.
He didn't fucking start it.
He is not responsible for it.
There are countless layers to this situation.
We killed COUNTLESS Iraquis during that boondoggle, but because Joe has been put into an absolute no win situation where he has to maintain our long standing strategic alliance with Israel with Iraq and Hamas poking the lunatic Bibi who is going to do what he will do regardless of what we do, BIDEN IS IN TROUBLE.
And, Putin/Trump and Magas are cheering this bullshit on.
Joe has handled Ukraine brilliantly, but for the upteenth time the left goes soft on a D potus over shit not even in their control.
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Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)Gotta follow the money.
Kaleva
(36,406 posts)maxsolomon
(33,473 posts)Or do you mean the appropriation in that bill?
What are you talking about?
iemanja
(53,137 posts)is like living in an alternate universe. People will say anything to avoid deny reality.
Suddenly, for the first time in US history, the US president has nothing to do with legislation and is entirely removed from US foreign policy. It truly is remarkable.
emulatorloo
(44,276 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 19, 2024, 03:42 PM - Edit history (2)
Since OP hasn't responded, I'd like to recommend the daily Iran Update from Institute for the Study of War. It's been helpful for cutting through the b.s. and for understanding what's actually happening. Today, 4/19, isn't posted yet but should be soon (yesterday is available + archive, though).
https://www.understandingwar.org/
lapucelle
(18,417 posts)Welcome to DU!
Jose Garcia
(2,612 posts)W_HAMILTON
(7,878 posts)Glad you never made a typo
W_HAMILTON
(7,878 posts)DemocratInPa
(381 posts)W_HAMILTON
(7,878 posts)Go edit the misinformation from your OP and update it with the information from your link.
Thanks.
DemocratInPa
(381 posts)W_HAMILTON
(7,878 posts)JohnSJ
(92,535 posts)someone is trying to intentionally misrepresent.
emulatorloo
(44,276 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,167 posts)Theyll go back under their bridge.
emulatorloo
(44,276 posts)Cha
(298,119 posts)lapucelle
(18,417 posts)Silent Type
(3,059 posts)meaningful reconstruction and some Long-term stability instead of bombs. Probably naive .
lapucelle
(18,417 posts)Does $9 billion qualify as "a few billion"?
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-aid-israel-gaza-taiwan-c0645ad3f47f9d919c8988a98593e887
Silent Type
(3,059 posts)This included $17 billion in defense aid to Israel, and some $9 billion providing humanitarian relief to people in Gaza as well as other war-torn regions (the final decision on allocation was up to the White House, with analysts expecting roughly $2 billion would go to Gaza).
https://www.timesofisrael.com/house-approves-26-billion-in-aid-for-israel-and-gaza-under-major-spending-package/#:~:text=This%20included%20%2417%20billion%20in,billion%20would%20go%20to%20Gaza).
lapucelle
(18,417 posts)Good to know.
Silent Type
(3,059 posts)lapucelle
(18,417 posts)The $13 billion in aid to Israel includes $5.2 billion for the Iron Dome, Davids Sling, and Iron Beam defense systems, so that's not going to bombs.
$13 billion minus $5.2 billion equals $7.8 billion. $9.15 billion is going to humanitarian aid.
Sorry but there's more money going to humanitarian aid than to bombs.
https://democrats-appropriations.house.gov/sites/democrats.appropriations.house.gov/files/Israel.pdf
Silent Type
(3,059 posts)lapucelle
(18,417 posts)And you were wrong about there being more money for bombs than for humanitarian aid.
Moreover, The Times of Israel doesn't source the claim that $2 billion will be allocated to Gaza.
I trust President Biden''s judgement on allocating the funds.
Ace Rothstein
(3,201 posts)Silent Type
(3,059 posts)lapucelle
(18,417 posts)Besides, the legislation explicitly states that the humanitarian funds cannot be dispersed to or through UNRWA, so that's one less middleman to worry about.
HUAJIAO
(2,414 posts)WarGamer
(12,515 posts)A billion dollars in bullets and bombs to Israel and a TikTok ban.
JohnSJ
(92,535 posts)JohnSJ
(92,535 posts)been a reliable voting block. We will win by those who believe saving our Democracy, a womans right to choose, workers rights, civil rights, the environment, etc etc etc, are paramount. Single issue voters will not determine This election.
AkFemDem
(1,836 posts)And every time, they laze out and don't show up.
I can guarantee even BEFORE this crisis, the TikTok obsessed, Taylor Swift chasing, pot-vaping, throw on a bakala and burn a bunch of shit because it's cool and call it a protest crowd was not going to wake up early, get out of their onesies, put their $50 Stanley cups down to go vote for one octogenarian or another.
pwb
(11,319 posts)the young will be with Joe. The young have long lives to live on this burning earth. Pukes offer them nothing but the same or worse. IMO.