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Beetwasher.

(2,981 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 08:19 PM Apr 19

Mike Johnson Came to Jesus

I wonder if some faceless, nameless folks from our Intelligence Community, who leave little doubt they mean business, had a little sit-down with little Mikey. It’s an interesting turn of events to say the least.

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Mike Johnson Came to Jesus (Original Post) Beetwasher. Apr 19 OP
I also think he looked rattled when he left the WH weeks ago. Irish_Dem Apr 19 #1
PBS NewsHour, Lisa DesJardin, talked about recent, secret talks with Dems... liberalla Apr 19 #4
That is what I would have done if I were Biden, Schumer and Jeffries. Irish_Dem Apr 19 #5
For Mike, it was just fun-and-games until he found out he was in a real government with real-life lindysalsagal Apr 20 #23
Exactly. Irish_Dem Apr 20 #25
I am a Catholic and I should not say this, but...... imanamerican63 Apr 19 #2
Are you saying Johnson edhopper Apr 19 #3
Maybe he was only rented, for a time... DemocraticPatriot Apr 19 #6
Isn't it more likely that the billionaire religious nuts are beginning to realize Trumpy FSogol Apr 19 #7
Clap! Drum Apr 19 #12
And the billionaires realize Putin winning is bad for business. It would put a major dampener on the EU economy. dutch777 Apr 20 #27
Actually, I noticed Johnson's expressions and body language during the SOTU address peggysue2 Apr 19 #8
That was my impression as well PatSeg Apr 19 #9
It is a good thing....I am pleased. Demsrule86 Apr 19 #13
Yeah, I saw that, too. electric_blue68 Apr 20 #21
I certainly hope not. rwild1967 Apr 19 #10
I don't doubt that classified briefings might have changed our country's course. Drum Apr 19 #14
I can tell you that Beetwaher is NOT "pat of the problem" Cha Apr 20 #16
Seriously? You don't want a House Speaker to be provided with vitally important data from the experts? ms liberty Apr 20 #29
Wonderful turn of phrase! Drum Apr 19 #11
He definitely needed a main course schoolin' and a come to Jesus Meeting for dessert. littlemissmartypants Apr 19 #15
There's this, too, Beetwasher.. Cha Apr 20 #17
Thanks Cha! Beetwasher. Apr 20 #30
You're Welcome.. Cha Apr 20 #31
I'm inclined to give Johnson the benefit of the doubt anamnua Apr 20 #18
Mike Johnson played a key role in efforts to overturn the 2020 election, Emile Apr 20 #19
I imagine any "visitors" convincing him to do right would probably be mega donors Bucky Apr 20 #20
I have read anamnua Apr 20 #22
"read the tea leaves." "Saw the way the wind was blowing" lindysalsagal Apr 20 #24
At exactly what Traildogbob Apr 20 #26
I read that as "on". He is a creepy scared dude. JanMichael Apr 20 #28
Did he demand tht JC be deported because he's a dangerous illigal alien? Ping Tung Apr 20 #32

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
1. I also think he looked rattled when he left the WH weeks ago.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 08:23 PM
Apr 19

So yes I think there were some intel briefings and words from POTUS and top generals as well.
Talking about Putin and national security, and global security.

Also some deals might have been cut.

liberalla

(9,257 posts)
4. PBS NewsHour, Lisa DesJardin, talked about recent, secret talks with Dems...
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 08:49 PM
Apr 19

with Capehart & Brooks later discussing the same.
They all agree a deal was made.

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
5. That is what I would have done if I were Biden, Schumer and Jeffries.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 08:57 PM
Apr 19

Hit Johnson as hard as they could right between the eyes until he saw stars.
Metaphorically that is, the reality of Putin and Russia and global security.

And how Marge and her pals are plotting against Johnson.

Then make a deal. Maybe even let him stew for 48 hours about it before
offering a deal.

Johnson definitely looked green around the gills when he left that meeting.

lindysalsagal

(20,726 posts)
23. For Mike, it was just fun-and-games until he found out he was in a real government with real-life
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:00 PM
Apr 20

implications. Maybe he really doesn't want to be blamed when Putin re-takes eastern europe?

And remember, the nuke plants in Ukraine could blow up much of the continent.

Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
25. Exactly.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:05 PM
Apr 20

That was the look on his face.

Shit got real and got real fast.

This is not high school or pretend.
This is serious with global consequences.

Yep he did not want to be the reason Putin starts
marching on Europe.

Johnson didn't want to be the named reason for WWIII starting.

imanamerican63

(13,811 posts)
2. I am a Catholic and I should not say this, but......
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 08:27 PM
Apr 19

Trump turned him away and Jesus was the only one who Mikey could talk to!

FSogol

(45,524 posts)
7. Isn't it more likely that the billionaire religious nuts are beginning to realize Trumpy
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 09:50 PM
Apr 19

won't win and they better have a plan B for GOP party leaders when he is gone?

dutch777

(3,035 posts)
27. And the billionaires realize Putin winning is bad for business. It would put a major dampener on the EU economy.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:49 PM
Apr 20

The war in Ukraine already has and along with Brexit and England's thrashing about hopelessly it does not bode well. Couple that with China's woes affecting US businesses like Apple and many others and the picture is not rosy in the near term. Trump would not help any of this, likely make it much worse either out of inaction, bad action or just talking non sense that causes fear and worry.

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
8. Actually, I noticed Johnson's expressions and body language during the SOTU address
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 09:53 PM
Apr 19

If my memory serves me, he nodded affirmatively when President Biden spoke about the imperative of providing military aid to Ukraine. I thought then that Johnson might be hiding his genuine opinion of the matter bc of the obvious resistance of the rogue MAGA caucus.

Then today I read that Johnson, at least in geopolitical stances, falls squarely in the Reaganite camp. Saint Ronnie for all his faulty policy prescriptions was never, ever a Russian cheerleader and/or a spouter of Russian propaganda.

Or maybe God whispered in Johnson's ear. Again.

Whatever the reason, it looks as if Ukraine will get the aid money they so desperately need.

IMHO, that's a very good thing.

PatSeg

(47,573 posts)
9. That was my impression as well
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 10:46 PM
Apr 19

I can't recall all the times he nodded his head, but it was several and at times surprising.

rwild1967

(21 posts)
10. I certainly hope not.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 11:00 PM
Apr 19

That is not the way I want my country run.

And if you think it's OK you are part of the problem, quit it.

Drum

(9,196 posts)
14. I don't doubt that classified briefings might have changed our country's course.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 11:06 PM
Apr 19

I think it is likely that it’s happened from our founding, and I don’t see it (as described above) as entirely detrimental.

—Just my opinion

ms liberty

(8,593 posts)
29. Seriously? You don't want a House Speaker to be provided with vitally important data from the experts?
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:59 PM
Apr 20

How very odd.

littlemissmartypants

(22,747 posts)
15. He definitely needed a main course schoolin' and a come to Jesus Meeting for dessert.
Fri Apr 19, 2024, 11:52 PM
Apr 19

Just desserts! He better fn be getting schooled somehow. He needs a couple of nuns on his ass, imo. Rulers or whatever it takes!

He's third in line and he needs to start acting like it.

I personally, hope he rots in Hell.

Cha

(297,574 posts)
17. There's this, too, Beetwasher..
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:09 AM
Apr 20
Johnson’s move to push through the foreign aid bills for Israel, Ukraine, et al. may be late, may be less than we hoped, and may be amended into some nightmare form. Still, they’re coming, and it’s a sign at long last that some vestigial recognition of international and political risk slithered up from his hindbrain and warned him of doom.

Why did Johnson make the change? The source above told me that the logjam had been broken for three reasons. First, Johnson saw the same polling many of us did: Ukraine aid is popular in the GOP swing districts, and if he has any chance of holding on as Speaker, he has to win every one of those seats. (He won’t, but let’s keep that our little secret.)

https://therickwilson.substack.com/p/the-week-from-hell-maga-edition

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218878035

anamnua

(1,119 posts)
18. I'm inclined to give Johnson the benefit of the doubt
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 04:08 AM
Apr 20

He obfuscated, delayed, and eventually outmaneuvered the MGT-type fanatics in his party. And then made his move on the bill when sure they could not spike it and him

Bucky

(54,041 posts)
20. I imagine any "visitors" convincing him to do right would probably be mega donors
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 05:36 AM
Apr 20

You're implying that he was coerced by national security goons. That's not likely. Sometimes the moment does make the man. And it's not like he's actually moved to the side of the angels. He's just strategically trying to protect his party from becoming the pro-Putin and anti-global security party.

In that, he's at least partially failed

anamnua

(1,119 posts)
22. I have read
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:21 AM
Apr 20

that the Dems, on the quiet, told Johnson that if he allows all the aid votes (Ukraine etc) they would come to his rescue if the MAGAs tried to oust him.

lindysalsagal

(20,726 posts)
24. "read the tea leaves." "Saw the way the wind was blowing"
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:04 PM
Apr 20

a.k.a. growing the eff up and dumping loser tsf.

Traildogbob

(8,791 posts)
26. At exactly what
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:12 PM
Apr 20

Point in time did Jesus change his mind about the women and children and all innocent people being slaughtered by a Godless greedy shit bag orchestrating the hell in Ukraine?
Moses claims he talks to Jesus everyday and follows his advice, what was the line crossed that Jesus finally WOKE up to the hell on hell?
Another question, what did Jesus tell him about the fake ass Three toed bat shit crazy lie hole that has a tight grip on the trailer of his Robe?

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
28. I read that as "on". He is a creepy scared dude.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:52 PM
Apr 20

Totally out of his element.

Yes I did think a deal was cut at the WH.

Ping Tung

(649 posts)
32. Did he demand tht JC be deported because he's a dangerous illigal alien?
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 04:09 PM
Apr 20

Did he note that Jesus wasn't even a Christian?

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