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Nevilledog

(51,285 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:08 PM Apr 20

A.R. Moxon: Americans Who Want To Kill Americans

https://www.the-reframe.com/americans-who-want-to-kill-americans/

In 2017 American Nazis invaded Charlottesville, VA, which is a major U.S. city in case you didn't know. Maybe you remember it. They called themselves "Unite the Right," and they wore polo shirts and held tiki torches, and chanted Nazi chants predicated on the idea that the white race (which is a pretend thing that people made up in order to consolidate social and political power and wealth by organizing the application of brutality and violence) was being replaced by inferior races, in a conspiracy orchestrated by Jewish people. It's a vile conspiratorial lie called "replacement theory," and Nazis believe it is true, and justifies their framing as self-defense the violence they enact and the violence they intend.

Many Nazis consider themselves Christian, which means that the bigotry in their hearts and the violence that they intend is the thing they worship as their God, which whatever you might think about Christian tenets isn't a Christian tenet. On the other hand, I can't help but notice that a frightening number of Christian institutions and leaders and parishioners don't do much to differentiate themselves from these Nazis, at least not in the way they use their religion as a rationale both for their bigotry and for practicing the popular traditional form of violence known as supremacy. Perhaps it's that these non-Nazi Christians are just too polite to publicly disagree with the Nazis who claim to share their religion. Perhaps it's that these non-Nazi Christian just agree with the Nazis too much to disagree. Who can say? Inner lives are so unknowable.

Anyway, after the Nazi invasion the white Christian president (by which I mean to say the president who exclusively represents the interests of white supremacists and Christian supremacists) defended those invading Nazis as "very fine people," though some will tell you that he was only defending the non-Nazis who marched with the Nazis with mostly the same objectives for doing so as the Nazis, and when those people tell you that, they will expect you to find it to be a meaningful distinction.

These days, mainstream elected members of the white Christian party and mainstream figureheads within its vast and popular media disinformation and propaganda superstructure will talk about this Nazi theory of replacement as a rationale for murdering people at the border, and murdering them outside the border, and murdering them inside the border, and like Nazis they frame all this violence as self-defense, and they encourage other people to see the existence of certain types of mostly not white and mostly not Christian people as an existential threat of deliberate replacement by shadowy conspiratorial figures that they don't usually name as Jews out loud, and they also encourage their respective constituents and audience to defend themselves from this threat, and they make sure that massacre weapons are plentiful and easy to attain, so I guess the Nazis really did manage to Unite the Right after all.

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A.R. Moxon: Americans Who Want To Kill Americans (Original Post) Nevilledog Apr 20 OP
There is no 'far right.' J_William_Ryan Apr 20 #1
Correct. And it isn't a new thing either. JanMichael Apr 20 #2
Kick Nevilledog Apr 21 #3

J_William_Ryan

(1,761 posts)
1. There is no 'far right.'
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:27 PM
Apr 20

We need to acknowledge the fact that the authoritarian, illiberal, neo-fascist tenets of white grievance politics and racist replacement theory are indeed mainstream conservativism.

We need to stop thinking that white grievance politics and racist replacement theory are the sole purview of rightwing extremism that manifests only among a minority of conservatives on the political fringe.

This is who and what conservatives are, this is who and what Republicans are.

JanMichael

(24,899 posts)
2. Correct. And it isn't a new thing either.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:49 PM
Apr 20

My WWII grandfather was a Republican but he hated Nazis. You know personal experience and such.

But he was also anti everything else like POC LGBTQ women in the workplace etc, less the Nazi thing.

Now with the Internet and the WWII generation pretty much gone we can see, and read, what most of the Republicans have always been PLUS they like Nazis now because it was sooo long ago.

I think 1980 was the start of the national unveiling. I used to get white power flyers stuck under my wipers at the mall in West Palm Beach FL weekly in 1986-87.



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