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Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) did something rarely, if ever, seen in the MAGA era when he won passage Saturday of a $95 billion foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.
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The other three top congressional leaders Mitch McConnell, Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer pushed Johnson on how Russia would expand its war beyond Ukraine absent new weapons. Jeffries called it a "Churchill or Chamberlain moment."
President Biden's national security team, most importantly CIA Director Bill Burns, methodically walked Johnson through the damning intelligence.
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The intelligence was so eye-opening to Johnson that he soon begged colleagues to go to the secure government chamber to see it themselves, the N.Y. Times.
https://www.axios.com/2024/04/21/behind-the-curtain-speaker-johnsons-historic-road-to-kyiv-conversion
I must say, the intelligence gathered must be quite concerning. I shudder to think what Putins plans are.
Irish_Dem
(48,117 posts)Maybe that Putin plans to go after the Balkans next, then NATO?
maryellen99
(3,790 posts)Deuxcents
(16,455 posts)maryellen99
(3,790 posts)Deuxcents
(16,455 posts)Irish_Dem
(48,117 posts)Irish_Dem
(48,117 posts)okaawhatever
(9,479 posts)Disaffected
(4,574 posts)the Baltic states are in NATO.
okaawhatever
(9,479 posts)I really do believe the intel, Mr. Johnson said. I think that Vladimir Putin would continue to march through Europe if he were allowed. I think he might go to the Baltics next. I think he might have a showdown with Poland or one of our NATO allies.
But yeah, good catch. I dont know if he misspoke or if he doesnt know the Baltics are NATO.
Disaffected
(4,574 posts)Hell, from that text, it looks like he might not even know that Poland is in NATO.
onetexan
(13,081 posts)Irish_Dem
(48,117 posts)Just like China's plan to go after Taiwan and the Pacific.
I have been saying this for some time.
Putin gets Europe.
China the Pacific.
That is the plan.
oasis
(49,490 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,543 posts)he must of been shown some solid intelligence of Russian intentions for the rest of Europe, I mean he looked like he'd been punched in the gut.
Disaffected
(4,574 posts)would have pretty much known that or at least considered it a distinct possibility w/o an intelligence briefing.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,543 posts)but at least he did the right thing for once, even though it should have been done long before now.
Talitha
(6,649 posts)That's what happens when shit gets real.
And God forbid if anything happened to Joe and Kamala, Mikey would be president - with the whole thing dumped in his lap.
Yeah Mikey, this shit is real.
Irish_Dem
(48,117 posts)Yes he got hit between the eyes with something.
Warpy
(111,470 posts)spurred by the lunatics who believed Putin when he said no aid from the US would quickly end the war. It didn't.
Opposition to aid collapsed and Republicans who still have a nodding acquaintance with reality started to play hardball, making some very credible threats to turn the House over to the Democrats.
So he skedaddled town to Mara Lardo to kiss the Poop's, er, ring and inform him the jig was up and he couldn't stall any longer in the House.
TFG didn't like it much. Good.
So Johnson didn't have any sort of conversion. He was just desperate to keep his job and with it, his pension as an ex Speaker.
AllyCat
(16,269 posts)Even some repubs are not going to vote him out.
The_Zephyr
(13 posts). . . the passage of Ukraine Aid is, for me, an answered prayer.
Putin-the-Poisoner certainly underestimated the resolve of the United States.
I thank God, Speaker Johnson, and all of the members of Congress,
who voted to pass this most important Defense Bill.
Only anti-democracy traitors would fail to defend our ally Ukraine against Russian oppression.
Cha
(298,087 posts)Thank YOu!