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brooklynite

(94,745 posts) Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:30 AM Apr 23

Gag order Contempt hearing has begun.

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Gag order Contempt hearing has begun. (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 23 OP

how does contempt hearing work? jcgoldie Apr 23 #1

I don't believe the jury is present for this... Drum Apr 23 #2

The jury will not be present, for obvious reasons, but Trump will be there. Ocelot II Apr 23 #7

ooo jcgoldie Apr 23 #3

I like the sound of that EYESORE 9001 Apr 23 #4

Judge and Attorneys having a bar conference. Trump left alone at table. brooklynite Apr 23 #5

Prosecution beginning arguments brooklynite Apr 23 #6

Prosecutor: Judge should sanction Trump for each gag order violation brooklynite Apr 23 #8

Here are the posts that prosecutors say violated the gag order brooklynite Apr 23 #9

Trump post about jury was "very troubling," prosecutor says brooklynite Apr 23 #10

Prosecutor: It's clear Trump "knows about the order" and violates it anyway brooklynite Apr 23 #11

He has to be scheduling these violating posts with scavino jcgoldie Apr 23 #12

"President Trump is under political attack" brooklynite Apr 23 #13

Prosecutors are too soft and also appear naive. triron Apr 23 #19

Please elaborate on how they're being "soft" brooklynite Apr 23 #21

Indeed. Wednesdays Apr 23 #22

Really? Seriously? Ocelot II Apr 23 #24

Trump talks to his attorney as exchange between Merchan and Blanche gets heated brooklynite Apr 23 #14

Judge wants to hear assertion under oath that Trump believed he wasn't violating gag order brooklynite Apr 23 #15

yeah but he won't do it... jcgoldie Apr 23 #17

Judge Merchan to Trump's Attorney: "You're losing all credibility with the Court" brooklynite Apr 23 #16

Trump's lawyer Blanche: "We didn't think reposts violated the gag order." brooklynite Apr 23 #18

Similar to: We thought the money in the bank vault were free samples. Ping Tung Apr 23 #23

Hearing ends; Judge Merchan will rule later... brooklynite Apr 23 #20

jcgoldie

(11,650 posts)

1. how does contempt hearing work?

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:32 AM

Apr 23

Do both sides make arguments? Is the jury even present?

Drum

(9,198 posts)

2. I don't believe the jury is present for this...

Reply to jcgoldie (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:34 AM

Apr 23

Ocelot II

(115,869 posts)

7. The jury will not be present, for obvious reasons, but Trump will be there.

Reply to jcgoldie (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:45 AM

Apr 23

Trump's lawyers will get to argue why they don't think a contempt order is necessary; the prosecutors will argue that it is. The judge will probably decide right after the hearing.

jcgoldie

(11,650 posts)

3. ooo

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:37 AM

Apr 23

Maggie Haberman
April 23, 2024, 9:30 a.m. ET3 minutes ago
3 minutes ago
Maggie HabermanReporting from the courthouse

Trump enters the courtroom, licking his lips.

EYESORE 9001

(25,988 posts)

4. I like the sound of that

Reply to jcgoldie (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:38 AM

Apr 23

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)

5. Judge and Attorneys having a bar conference. Trump left alone at table.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:43 AM

Apr 23

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)

6. Prosecution beginning arguments

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:43 AM

Apr 23

Link to tweet

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)

8. Prosecutor: Judge should sanction Trump for each gag order violation

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:54 AM

Apr 23

Prosecutor Chris Conroy said Judge Juan Merchan should sanction Donald Trump for each of the violations of the gag order.

Remember: Prosecutors want Merchan to fine Trump $1,000 per violation and to remind him that “future violations of this Court’s restrictions on his extrajudicial statements can be punished not only with additional fines but also with a term of incarceration of up to thirty days.”

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-04-23-24/h_9eda273aeec98071e6b56eb88f26228a

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)

9. Here are the posts that prosecutors say violated the gag order

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:55 AM

Apr 23

Truth Social post, April 10, 10:07 a.m.
Truth Social post, April 10, 10:48 a.m.
Truth Social post, April 13, 12:56 p.m.
Truth Social post, April 15, 9:12 a.m.
Truth Social post, April 15, 10:26 a.m.
Campaign website post, April 15
Truth Social post, April 16, 1:50 p.m.
Truth Social post, April 16, 7:09 p.m.
Campaign website post, April 16
Truth Social post, April 17, 5:46 p.m.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-04-23-24/h_763f75ffc578daa7caa1910789e96e61

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)

10. Trump post about jury was "very troubling," prosecutor says

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:01 AM

Apr 23

Prosecutor Chris Conroy now mentions Donald Trump's Truth Social post about jurors in which he quoted Fox News' Jesse Waters calling them "undercover Liberal Activists lying to the Judge."

"This is a very troubling post," Conroy says.

"I think the link to the jurors in this case in this proceedings is very clearly a violation of the order," he adds.

Conroy says the day after the post, a juror was excused after saying she was no longer comfortable serving on the jury. "What happened here is precisely what this order was designed to prevent, and this defendant doesn’t care," Conroy said.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-04-23-24/h_dead47923bbe35a776d119b4a9094d2a

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)

11. Prosecutor: It's clear Trump "knows about the order" and violates it anyway

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:09 AM

Apr 23

"It’s clear he knows about the order, he knows what he's not allowed to do and he does it anyway," says prosecutor Chris Conroy said of Donald Trump.

There’s no indication, Conroy added, that Trump's claim he’s responding to attacks is "anything more than an after-the-fact justification."

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-04-23-24/h_7be85c62938ba2748d5d5a774b94a2e5

jcgoldie

(11,650 posts)

12. He has to be scheduling these violating posts with scavino

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:11 AM

Apr 23

Prosecutor says they are posted as hes in court. How can that not be deliberate?

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)

13. "President Trump is under political attack"

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:14 AM

Apr 23

Link to tweet

triron

(22,023 posts)

19. Prosecutors are too soft and also appear naive.

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:46 AM

Apr 23

Or just intimidated

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)

21. Please elaborate on how they're being "soft"

Reply to triron (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:51 AM

Apr 23

Wednesdays

(17,412 posts)

22. Indeed.

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #21)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:56 AM

Apr 23

Prosecutors aren't asking for jail time...yet...but they're otherwise asking for the maximum penalty allowed by law.

Ocelot II

(115,869 posts)

24. Really? Seriously?

Reply to triron (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 01:11 PM

Apr 23

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)

14. Trump talks to his attorney as exchange between Merchan and Blanche gets heated

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:34 AM

Apr 23

Trump is talking to his attorney Emil Bove as the exchange gets a little more heated between Judge Juan Merchan and attorney Todd Blanche.

Trump who was watching Merchan whipped his head quickly to Bove to say something after the exchange.

"What I do see is, I keep asking you over and over again for a specific answer, and I’m not getting an answer," Merchan said to Blanche.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-04-23-24/h_48320ea2db94827af5f141260fa1695c

It doesn't seem to be going well for Trump

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)

15. Judge wants to hear assertion under oath that Trump believed he wasn't violating gag order

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:40 AM

Apr 23

Judge Juan Merchan said he wants to hear an assertion under oath that Donald Trump believed he wasn't violating the gag order when he made the posts in question.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-04-23-24/h_04a20bed69673df4c41654ffa182e7fd

Since Trump believes whatever he wants, this doesn't seem to achieve anything.