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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo they want to find Trump $1000 for gag order violations?
It's a joke, right?
Same as telling him there's no punishment, just keep doing it.
Ocelot II
(115,869 posts)getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)he can do either or both. up to 30 days.
orangecrush
(19,624 posts)I guess.
orangecrush
(19,624 posts)I guess jail time is also an option, but will probably not see that.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)the prosecution is making it clear that they're not asking for jail time............yet, but they do want the judge to find Been-A-Dick Donald in contempt and assign fines of $1000.00 per violation.
MSNBC is reporting that the judge is becoming pissed at Been-A-Dick's lawyer.
orangecrush
(19,624 posts)I would love to see him in a holding cell with 15 or so badasses.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,449 posts)and it possibly may happen if Been-A-Dick keeps up his crap.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,344 posts)I saw one lawyer on the tv machine say give him 30 days suspended. (I would suspend 29 days and let him cool his heels in the clink for 24 hours or maybe a day behind bars and let him out at 11 pm.)
I would add, order the secret service management make a plan to facilitate a day or two in the cell in the event that happens.
onenote
(42,769 posts)and more than any TV talking head.
Judges virtually never jail someone the first time they are accused by the prosecution of violating a gag order, particularly when the violation did not disrupt the trial in front of a jury. Which is why Bragg didn't ask for jail time -- the judge would not be happy if he thought Bragg was over-reaching.
But as I've noted previously, Bragg and the judge following standard practice will undoubtedly be criticized sharply by some who mistakenly think that anyone else would be jailed.
MorbidButterflyTat
(1,855 posts)They either don't know or don't care that jail time is NOT being requested by the DA - yet.
Drama queens and instigators. They're everywhere.
Emile
(22,945 posts)courthouse microphone and lock him up in the courthouse cell until the trial is over.
Silent Type
(2,975 posts)we can do it
(12,197 posts)triron
(22,023 posts)we can do it
(12,197 posts)Walleye
(31,062 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)unblock
(52,332 posts)Emile
(22,945 posts)according to some people.
unblock
(52,332 posts)Emile
(22,945 posts)sl8
(13,901 posts)onenote
(42,769 posts)That's the per violation limit in a criminal case. There is no limit in a civil case. Just a coincidence that in the civil case Judge Engoron imposed a $10K fine.
sl8
(13,901 posts)onenote
(42,769 posts)This article will help explain the different types of contempt proceedings and penalties.
https://www.justsecurity.org/94878/why-trump-will-likely-be-held-in-contempt-and-what-then/
getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)from cnn....
Judge Juan Merchan said he wants to hear an assertion under oath that Donald Trump believed he wasn't violating the gag order when he made the posts in question.
Under oath means he can find he lied. Under oath. Or if he says he defied the order, take appropriate action. Or he can take the fifth. Then the judge can rule anyway.
orangecrush
(19,624 posts)Thanks!
Happy Hoosier
(7,395 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,326 posts)republianmushroom
(13,704 posts)onenote
(42,769 posts)the statute permits or what the prosecutor has requested?
Mme. Defarge
(8,045 posts)based on a defendants ability to pay?
onenote
(42,769 posts)sl8
(13,901 posts)onenote
(42,769 posts)Thus, they are asking for $10,000. When they first moved for sanctions, they only identified three violations and asked for $3000.
orangecrush
(19,624 posts)On CNN.
Guess I was wrong.
Still, $10,000 is an invitation.
sl8
(13,901 posts)onenote
(42,769 posts)Conjuay
(1,409 posts)N/a
FlyingPiggy
(3,384 posts)We would have been arrested. Marchan is a weak judge!!!
Caliman73
(11,744 posts)Before any non-financial penalty is given, they have to impose the maximum financial penalty.
They aren't doing it to be lenient. They are doing it to ensure against appeal.