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Kyle Cheney
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BREAKING: Arizona prosecutors have charged 11 fake electors for their roles in efforts to subvert the 2020 election. https://mcusercontent.com/cc1fad182b6d6f8b1e352e206/files/fa85cddf-ccc6-7dee-dd58-ff5e80d53b15/Indictment.03.pdf
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4:08 PM · Apr 24, 2024
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A state grand jury, made up of everyday, regular Arizonans, has handed down felony indictments in the ongoing investigation into the fake elector scheme in Arizona.
4:08 PM · Apr 24, 2024
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MORE: Trump is an *unindicted coconspirator* in this indictment. https://mcusercontent.com/cc1fad182b6d6f8b1e352e206/files/fa85cddf-ccc6-7dee-dd58-ff5e80d53b15/Indictment.03.pdf
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UPDATE: It's clear who most of the the other 7 are based on details in the indictment. Among them:
-Rudy Giuliani
-Mark Meadows
-Mike Roman
https://mcusercontent.com/cc1fad182b6d6f8b1e352e206/files/fa85cddf-ccc6-7dee-dd58-ff5e80d53b15/Indictment.03.pdf
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4:22 PM · Apr 24, 2024
brer cat
(24,605 posts)Nevilledog
(51,197 posts)Dan
(3,579 posts)Why arent they indicting Trump? What is the rational that he is at the heart of all these crimes, a party to the crimes, but not being charged. Does anyone know the answer?
Nevilledog
(51,197 posts)Very informative . So, looks like after the November election (assuming that Trump loses), the party begins again for Trump . He will probably live the rest of life in Courts traveling between States fighting for his freedom.
Nevilledog
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(21,625 posts)drumpf is already up to his eyeballs in enough trials to keep him locked up until he dies. no reason to complicate this case by trying to drag him into it. especially since it will trigger all kinds of motions that will delay the case indefinitely.
triron
(22,020 posts)Mickju
(1,805 posts)ShazzieB
(16,513 posts)That kind of evidence exists in the Georgia case because someone happened to think of recording that phone call to Raffensberg, but I haven't heard of anything like that in relation to any of the other swing states where slates of fake electors were created.
Of course, we all know that Trump was involved in all of it, but knowing something to be true and being able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law are two different things. If that's the case here, I don't blame the AZ AG for focusing on those against whom she is able to build the strongest, most air tight case.
Just a guess, as I said, but it seems like a possibility to me.
MerryBlooms
(11,771 posts)No direct link. Trump off the hook on this one, unless one of his dupes turns on him with receipts.
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electric_blue68
(14,933 posts)And how did you get your post to go
"outside" the text box?!
At least, that's how it appears on my smartphone.
Bundbuster
(3,193 posts)is a criminal organization, plain & simple, led by Don Snoreleone and his consiglieres and foot soldiers.
erronis
(15,328 posts)trump itself is incapable of even wiping his ass without leaving tracks.
This operation has other puppeteers above.
Kingofalldems
(38,476 posts)FormerOstrich
(2,703 posts)Make me very happy.....I was concerned as it moved so slowly....but now GO MAYES!
ShazzieB
(16,513 posts)This is great news!
Warpy
(111,339 posts)and I never thought I'd write that.
Looks like those old Goldwater Republicans didn't much like having a bunch of MAGAts make them look bad.
I'll take it.
NBachers
(17,136 posts)dobleremolque
(492 posts)when I tell people I'm from Arizona. Good for for the grand jury! And good for Attorney General Kris Mayes.
electric_blue68
(14,933 posts)(any excuse to recount my glorious vacations!)
Saw photos when I was a kid onward, entranced, and finally got to visit AZ, and Navajo & Hopi Nations at 26 yo then went on to SF, LA.
My friend, and I rented a car in Flagstaff. Visited Navajo & Hopi Nations, stayed in a motel. Next day he went down into Canyon de Chelle. Too scary for me, but I was in heaven from seeing the landscapes from the day before! And I took a peek down into that canyon. I wrote postcards in Well he car m, then met him, and went to breakfast.
Then we drove to Monument Valley taking a short cut that had a middle third as a dirt road, got there in time to drive the 17 mile loop in the afternoon. Had our din, and watched the sunset. Slept around 9PM in our sleeping bags under a Full Moon.
Then, we woke up around 3AM, with The Milky Way spanning, and sparkling practically horizon to horizon overhead! Never went back to sleep. Watched the sunrise. Then high tailed back to Flagstaff, and made our 2 day rental agreement with an hour to spare! 😀 👍
I came back about 13 days later, and took the Greyline tour from Flagstaff. More different areas to see.
The Next Year '80 I got to The Grand Canyon! Now, I arrived around noon time, and was somewhat disappointed.
How could that be?!
I'll tell you.
As a "colorist": one who loves color in clothing, jewelry, art making, crafting, and photography; I'm sensitive to it.
Arriving at the GC around Noonish I was floored that beyond the beige ground I stood on, and the first somewhat subdued red rocks first ?level down - the whole rest of the canyon marching away into the distance was shades of blues, violets, bits of purple, and pale blue whites. It looked "flattish", as though the rest beyond the first level down almost looked like a "photographic" mural!
Totally Not what I was expecting!
Where the heck were the reds, oranges, golden ochers, and pale yellows?!!!!
Of course I kept looking, anyway, as I walked nearish to the edge.
As it turned out: the sun had to angle down for the warmer colors to emerge! Which only happened around 3PM, and we had to leave by 4PM!
At least, the mystery was solved, and I got to see some of it the way I expected to! What a place!
Finally, I took one more Greyline tour from Flagstaff. We were outside Tuba City when ?the water pipe blew. Well, something did, and the five, or six of us had to push the car back about ?1/4-1/3 of a mile!
Anyway, it took ?2+ hours to repair, but we were in a restaurant. And then our guide graciously took us on the whole tour! Similar to last year's, and that was fine. I wanted to see it all again. We stopped at an area outside of the official Petrified Forest. That was some strange stuff!
I think that evening I headed back home by bus (as I'd done the year before). What glorious adventures!
Upthevibe
(8,071 posts)Great news!
Thank you for posting..............