So much concern. I think we win and Trump and other GOP losers go down hard...real hard in election after election. After all, basically, Trump has cost the Republicans every election since 2016.

That person simply isn't pretending a Biden victory is a sure thing. It's not.

Predicting a landslide loss for Trump is, while not impossible, quite a bit of wishful thinking.

While I can imagine situations that could lead to a landslide loss for Trump, I can also imagine completely realistic situations where Trump wins which are beyond our control, such as an out-of-the-blue nasty economic jolt, or a major terrorist attack -- and we know, unlike the way Democrats behaved toward Bush after 9/11, Republicans would NOT return that favor: Screw "coming together as a nation". They'd blame and demonize Biden with relentless glee, and it would almost certainly work to tank Biden's chances of winning.

a lot more about Trump now than they did in 2016. And not good things.

In 2016, trump was an unknown quantity beyond that he was a "celebrity" who, outside of new York City, was "famous" only because "you're fired." His campaign revolved around his saying "outrageous" things "as seen on TV!!!11!!" that the media craves for its freak show quality. Add to all that free advertising from the media frenzy, his adoption of code words to rile up the racists and open the wallets of the tax-shy billionaire parasite class, plus more than a little help from russia, he eked out a "win" solely by virtue of our broken election system where a popular-vote loser can still win.

Here we are in 2024, eight years later. The most important difference now is that he is no longer an unknown quantity. People know what he is and what he will do. The other factors in 2016 are, sadly, mostly the same -- the media's salivation over the freak show and its insistence on having a horse race, many of the same parasite-class wallets opening, racists whose fantasy is a "civil" (i.e., race) war, and putin's army of internet-inspired malefactors.

People have different opinions, of course, but I think that enough people have "had enough" and "seen enough" to overcome the advantage afforded by our broken election system where this loser can "win" again.

I guess we'll all see, but not soon enough. We still have seven long months of trump being on every media non-stop to endure after which, regardless of outcome, will be followed by even more media spectacle with either a merciless autocracy/satellite of russia or courts clogged again with frivolous lawsuits.

and he still came too close

his propaganda fills the airwaves and the internet and his troll armies are "standing by."

don't worry, be happy.

If covid had never happened, I think he would have been reelected in 2020. Scary but true.

His lack of sensible leadership to get us through Covid, and his down-playing of the crisis and sensible precautions while the body counts continued to climb, was the number one cause of his 2020 loss. In that moment of crisis, he failed us all.

Plus the economy tanked during Covid. It was rock-solid before it.

they have sucessfully shifted blame for covid to biden, the dem governors, and dr fauci.

and even worse, the public now equates the simplest public health measures as commie fascism.

it isn't only fox and the internet trolls., but i don't see a "liberal press" asking trump the tough questions about this.

‘We have an excellent guy on our team called Tony Fauci. We will follow his advice to the letter and we will get through this’

And he would have been comfortably re-elected.

Now his feet of clay are there for all to see.

would have won (and in nightmarish fashion, a 269-269 EC tie with a gamed (due to illegal Rethug gerrymandering in a handful of states keeping them at 26 or above state delegations under their control) House electing Trump.

Also, there is closing in on a zero per cent chance (even if Trump dies before the election) that Trump or another Rethug gets only 32 per cent of the popular vote. Hitler is both dead and ineligible.

There were other factors affecting the outcome. Comey's announcement days before the election of Hillary's emails.

Trump had not instigated an insurrection.
Trump had not been indicted in four different courts.
Stories about trump"s infidelities were killed.

But won't happen. There will be those at one end of those voters that will vote for him no matter what. At the other end will be those that won't vote for him but not all for the same reasons. Both Republicans and independents.

The degree of the outcome will depend on voter turnout based on various factors. The more Trump is in the news regarding his cases and talks stupid. It is possible he gets down to the 30's. It was 46% in 2020. Just 7% less and it would be 39%. It is immaterial. It is likely he will lose and will have fewer votes than in 2020.

Unfortunately, presidents are elected via a system that’s both undemocratic and antimajoritarian; a system designed to disregard the will of the majority of the voters.

For example, I live in a deep red state where my vote for President Biden this November won’t be counted.

More mayhem is possible.

But, I agree, not likely. I've been waiting for the fever to break for a while, and it does seem like it's starting to fade.

I heard plenty of reasons "Why Trump can't win" right up to Nov 8th 2016.
Believe me, he could win this time, so we cannot afford to be unconcerned or over-confident or otherwise passive.
We have to tell people to vote for President Biden because the stakes are too high to stay home.

I do honestly believe that times are different than 2016. I am very concerned about November's Election.
I believe that Trump has been out there too long. He has shown the U.S.A. an evil part of himself that he did not
show in 2016. He was too new then in 2016, and Trump has shown the evil part of himself to everyone in the
U.S.A. All over the news, all of the time. I will give money to Joe Biden's election this November and if I am
able (I am not young anymore) I will work for Joe Biden.

Joe Biden is a ...."CLASS ACT and................Donald Trump is the exact opposite........................

I agree, the way things are set up now, Biden wins easily and the Democratic party takes the legislative with solid majorities. The SCOTUS is ripe to be re-staffed soon, too. This could usher in an era of national prosperity, leadership, and decency, where we prioritize the big problems facing humanity and re-shape global civilization in a way that our descendants can live together in peace with comfort and dignity while they begin to explore the deeper mysteries of the universe.
...........
Oooooor

There is no way for Trump to win electorally, yet he knows he must win at all costs to avoid accountability for his countless crimes. He (i.e his top staff, not him -- he mostly does golf and some kind of courtroom reality show) mobilizes a large cadre of true believers, grifty freeloaders, and sunk-cost dead-enders to launch an oligarch-supported revolt aimed at avoiding the election entirely. Doesn't even have to be visible, not yet anyway -- just an ever-intensifying series of suggestively vague calls to directly remedy perceived injustices. This results in a string of stochastic terror attacks in large cities around America. International adversaries sense an opportunity as we grapple with internal security issues, and seize this moment to launch all-out territorial grabs around the world. Russia smuggles arms to Trump's partisans through Florida. No one here can tell what the fuck is going on because our telecom and electricity distribution resources become frequent targets of sabotage. Trump (and his attendant inner circle of evil clowns) ascends to ridiculous levels of undeserved power once again as Putin's lieutenant, ruling the southeast quarter of the freshly-divided states of America, now client members of a rising neo-USSR. Everyone says they're happy or else.

Hehe, what am I babbling, this is some righteous bullshit that would never ever happen, not in a million years. No way. Not gonna be a thing. Impossible. Right?

And he’s more bad news.

The latest is the fake electors.

Tomorrow it will be something else, but whatever it is, it will not be a benefit to the voter.

People vote for their own best interest. He fails to provide a benefit to the voter. Whining and crying about a cold court room do not a benefit make.

It will come down to how the campaigns are run. Democrats are very good at using data and specifically targeting certain potential voters which is scientific. The white nationalists aren't as good with science. They're better with their "convince enough white people" strategy. It's very simple work. They already know a majority of white swing voters believe the giant myth that "republicans are better at handling the economy."

But when magas are doubling down on eliminating reproductive rights it can overshadow their effortless economic message.
And when magas have a losing track record in three straight elections, the trend becomes more cemented.

This isn't a prediction. Potential for aberrations abound.

goes nuts. Republican voters only vote for Democrats after Republicans so obviously wreck the economy they can't ignore it (Bill Clinton, Barack Obama).

I think you're right; it's really that simple.

are some political dumb assholes out here that falsely blame Democrats for everything they consider bad.

I like to think Trump has no chance in hell after trying to overthrow our government and have his vice president murdered, but that magic R worries me.

perfect candidates or accuses them of ignoring the working/middle class because of being beholden to corporations and wealthy donors and billionaires, having bad messaging, being out-of-touch elites, etc.

It's magic.

To say he can’t win is the height of naïveté and expecting that Americans are into “kind and honest” is right behind it.

This asshole absolutely can win and it doesn’t matter if Biden gets ten million more votes this time if he can’t win ALL the battleground states which by all accounts will be an absolute squeaker. The President won by skin of the teeth margins last time just as Piss Wig did in ‘16.

With the corporate media giving the traitor billions in free advertising, normalizing his most insane behavior and never even mentioning things like Project 2025 while shitting on and bothsidering the President and Democrats at every opportunity, Тяцмр has a 50/50 chance. Throw in the Hamas supporting dopes with their “Genocide Joe” idiocy peeling off youth and dividing the left and his chances get that much better.

Oh no, we’re in the fight of our lives here and we can’t take anything for granted.

… yet tell pollsters today that they will vote for him?

it’s showing that his whole persona has been carefully crafted by the biggest bullshit artist in publishing.
it’s also showing just how much bullshit went straight from his mouth to the ne, to fox, etc.