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Listening to the oral arguments in the Idaho case yesterday I remain shocked that a person of such low intellect even got a law degree. Let alone shows off that quality with such zest.
Not only is Dobbs the craziest ( and terribly written) decision ever delivered by the court; his doubling down on and being so damned proud of being stupid is just unbelievable to me.
ck4829
(35,091 posts)We can't these crooked justices and a legitimate SCOTUS at the same time.
OldBaldy1701E
(5,161 posts)But we would never question an institution of higher learning, now would we?
Face it, as long as a trust fund baby has parents that dump money into a college, that baby will get a degree, regardless of whether or not they actually earned it (and, in most cases, they probably could not have gotten it any other way). And, that baby will be treated like a real intelligent person (as long as they keep their mouths shut, which they seldom are capable of doing) thanks to a piece of paper that proves nothing and the fact that they come from money. And, we wonder why this nation is crumbling in regard to intelligence and capability. When one passes out degrees to the highest bidder, well...
ck4829
(35,091 posts)BlueKota
(1,785 posts)but he had a masters degree. He was lazy and dumber than a box of rocks. One of our volunteers asked me one day, if they were giving away master's degrees in cereal boxes?
This is sad that even many educational facilities standards have lowered so much.
OldBaldy1701E
(5,161 posts)The standards are lower because they want to be a corporation (i.e.: they have to make a profit). They are not a corporation, they are an education facility. The desire to make every single thing in this country corporate is what is fueling this crap (as well as most of what is wrong with this nation). But, we can't seem to stop doing it. I wonder why?
Mr. Mustard 2023
(116 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,096 posts)DeeDeeNY
(3,356 posts)Exhibit 1: Donald Trump
ProfessorGAC
(65,195 posts)Yes, he says he went to Wharton which is usually inferred to mean MBA.
But, he has a BA in BA. And, even that degree is suspect.
I get your point but just wanted to be clear about his "credentials".
mopinko
(70,235 posts)all that is not a secret. hell, when i was an apprentice carpenter, i had to work under the boss failson cuz daddy bought him a card. nobody minded the other son, the teacher, who worked summers. he didnt drink, or stink up the car and office bathroom every morning w his rotting liver farts. and he did good work. he deserved a card.
the best of them was the son that actually earned his card.
now harvard and yale, et al, have an out to say no to these failsons. everyone is watching. we ll get sued. whether they take it or not will show who they rly r.
czarjak
(11,296 posts)It was reported that Bush Sr. only only joined a fraternity and played baseball to "earn" his Ivy League Degree from Yale . No records of academic achievement.
Ford_Prefect
(7,921 posts)It seems he has gotten more the way he is now as he has aged into the bench. His early legal career was different altogether from what he is most known for since he joined the SCOTUS. That is not unusual as people age and climb institutional ladders.
This is not a defense of the man nor his horrible legal reasoning. I mean only that he was not so ignorant at the start of his career. It is a mistake on our part to assign to ignorance alone that which is evidence of a mean spirited bigot in a powerful seat. He seems to revel in his misanthropy and misogyny. His poorly reasoned opinions are evidence of a willful and malicious intent distorting legal process and precedent.
All of the hateful 6 deserve sanction and removal in favor of those with more reasoned and fairer judgement. We first need to change the bias of Congress and the Senate to allow 13 justices, one for each of the federal districts.
Tumbulu
(6,292 posts)so to speak? To appear the idiot? While displaying his misogyny and racism with such abandon?
Yes, his mean intentions show through, but you think the apparently preposterous questions is a part of his act?
Ford_Prefect
(7,921 posts)In short he enjoys showing his power over the court, and the lawyers, and their clients, and the LAW.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)Have the right connections and you get to clerk for the right judges, join the right law firms, get into the right clubs, and rub the right elbows.
BlueKota
(1,785 posts)even though we pretty much know the six are corrupt partisans there is nothing that can be done to them. Impeachment is the only option and the Democrats don't have a large enough majority in the Senate to pull that off.
There is the option of just ignoring their rulings though because they have no enforcement mechanisms, and have to depend on the President and the legislators for enforcement. I doubt though that most Democrats, however, would be willing to do that.
ck4829
(35,091 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,968 posts)... He doesn't know.
Vinca
(50,308 posts)woman doesn't really matter. Someone needs to explain the importance of gestation to him. They might also ask he stop practicing medicine without a license.
The view of so many of these people seems to be that women have value only as "baby factories."
Joinfortmill
(14,464 posts)Been there. Not going back. These arrogant fucks opened a Pandora's box.
Farmer-Rick
(10,212 posts)A woman has to be alive to produce, carry and birth those fetuses. Killing women off for the sake of the unborn is really stupid policy.
Even a farmer will tell you they would rather keep the mother and lose the fetus of any animal they raise. And then we have chickens and we eat their zygotes regularly. If you killed off the mother hens you wouldn't get any more eggs.
Even if you were to treat women like baby machines, you would be treating them better than they are being treated by right wing states medical systems.
haele
(12,680 posts)He's not stupid; he's clever and a venal predator. This is an example of him letting his inner troll shine through, because he doesn't have to pretend to be a human being to get ahead any more.
He really is a lizard person.
Thomas isn't stupid either, he's just intellectually lazy and corrupt. Generally, he's aware enough to keep his mouth shut, but since Scalia passed, he apparently doesn't have a big daddy to defer to and he feels he has permission to show his disdain of people he considers slackers (generally those who don't have a lot of power or money) out in public.
Haele
rubbersole
(6,729 posts)..marinated in ignorance. Dems first priority should be expanding the court. And run on it in November.
DFW
(54,445 posts)He has a pre-conceived judgment, and looks during arguments for ways to justify it.
Trevanian described it best when he called the American penchant for taking a pre-conceived notion, and then twisting and turning his logic like a pretzel until he arrives at his desired conclusion.
unblock
(52,329 posts)alito is hardly alone in arriving at a conclusion first and backfilling an excuse.
it's pretty much the right-wing way.
i think scalia was one of the earlier examples (certainly bush v. gore fits) though you could still find some of his decisions where his notions of how to read the constitution didn't always lead him to a right-wing conclusion.
LuvLoogie
(7,034 posts)Committed to his malevolence as piety.
Roy Rolling
(6,936 posts)
a crusader. A Trojan horse. Whatever you call it, his priorities are not to interpret the law but to shape it with his opinions.
A rogue Supreme Court is only possible when the president appointing them is weak (TRUMP) and a legislature is feckless (GOP Congress).
Its an internal coup by MAGAts infesting the executive branch. They refuse to counter-balance the Supreme Court as is required by the spirit and wording of the Constitutiona document they dont read, cant understand, but cite frequently.
Mr. Mustard 2023
(116 posts)Think about what is required to "believe" in (fake) "Christian" doctrine. Think about it for just a few minutes.
Virgin birth. Son of god died, to help us? Why not help us, or at least warn us? For example why didn't Jesus zoom over to China and lecture them about what's required to get into heaven? Or were those Chinese just screwed?
The obvious kicker is - those who wrote the bible give themselves absolute authority over all living things. That's a tell. Women? They're our property. Slavery is A.O.K. Animals? They're without souls so we can torture them without conscience.
Usury? No one ever mentions usury which is in both bible versions several times. I could go on.
So for an adult to read the nonsense and say "makes sense to me" means they're power mad.
Gore1FL
(21,152 posts)Tumbulu
(6,292 posts)the prize going to Alito. But of course, I respect your conclusion.
Alito is what happens when the wording of the Constitution doesnt say you must have a lawyer degree. Anyone can be a SCOUTUS.You dont have to be a lawyer just bought and sold to the rich. That explains alitos decisions and ignorance of the law.
czarjak
(11,296 posts)Illegitimate.
yorkster
(1,506 posts)What a preening " ahss". And sure of his own brilliance, no doubt.
Texin
(2,599 posts)He would have been a relentless part of the Spanish Inquisition. Indeed, he could have replaced Torquemada.
And I've read he's a member of Opus Dei. For heaven's sake, even Pope Francis isn't as relentlessly entrenched on the matters of women's reproductive rights or those of the LBGTQ community.
Tumbulu
(6,292 posts)Have you read Dobbs?
Bizarrely run your nose in poop stupid. So, yes, I think you helped me understand.
So, I am thinking as a result of this discussion that this is indeed zealotry on steroids to a very public audience.
dlk
(11,578 posts)They want what they want, when they want it. Logic and reason arent part of the equation.
KS Toronado
(17,338 posts)So I asked my TV set "What is the name of this child you speak of ?" Why do repugnuts always refer to
something in a womb as a walking and talking person? I know.....to stir emotion.
unblock
(52,329 posts)the right wing doesn't give a crap about the woman. there's not even any effort to say oh, hey, it's sucks for both and it's a tough decisions but on balance the life of the fetus outweighs the life of the mother. they just lurch to fetus = baby and thou shalt not kill and end of story. tons of reasons to kill actual humans, especially if gunz are involved, but they're suddenly absolute pacifists when it comes to abortion.
a man with a gun has the right to shoot anyone he's momentarily fearful of.
a pregnant woman has no right to end a pregnancy that is guaranteed to cause a variety of harms for 40 weeks, up to and including risk of death.
but hey, they're not interested in making sense, they're just interested in flexing their power over people.
Farmer-Rick
(10,212 posts)Establishing policy to allow the mother to die, or be forever injured, for the sake of the unborn, is what you expect to see in a poverty stricken or religiously insane country.
Kid Berwyn
(14,967 posts)Alito thinks it's OK to shoot an unarmed 15-year-old kid -- in the back of the head.
Know your BFEE: Alito is just another word for Mussolini
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=266685
Tumbulu
(6,292 posts)This is his lifes work then.
Monster.
Traurigkeit
(250 posts)it has done to all United States Citizens not part of the 0.1 % of the Wealhty Class.
Robert's Court was based on payments.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,590 posts)For example, Alito ignored relevant law. Alito's only support for his opinion was a witch hunter who believed in/advocated for marital rape. Here is some authority that Alito was too stupid to find or use
Link to tweet
https://www.washingtonpost.com/made-by-history/2022/07/19/1792-case-reveals-that-key-founders-saw-abortion-private-matter/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjM4MjMyODIzIiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY1ODU2MjA5NSwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY1OTc3MTY5NSwiaWF0IjoxNjU4NTYyMDk1LCJqdGkiOiI0MDZjNjg4ZC1hODI2LTQ0ZWMtOGQ2Zi0zNDAwMjI3NDhiNDAiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vbWFkZS1ieS1oaXN0b3J5LzIwMjIvMDcvMTkvMTc5Mi1jYXNlLXJldmVhbHMtdGhhdC1rZXktZm91bmRlcnMtc2F3LWFib3J0aW9uLXByaXZhdGUtbWF0dGVyLyJ9.3Oz4ziKkJBN2tEYVnpVZn6nAAc14004UAhTbvAbyhAM
Alitos evidence that abortion was always considered a criminal act, and thus something the Constitution should not protect, consisted of a single criminal case that was prosecuted in 1652 in the (Catholic) colony of Maryland. He then jumped ahead to laws that states enacted, mostly in the mid-to-late-19th century, to criminalize abortion. This cursory survey of abortion in early America was hardly complete, especially because it ignored the history of abortion in the years in which the Constitution was drafted and ratified.....
Therefore, the more historically accurate conclusion is Justice Harry A. Blackmuns majority opinion in Roe v. Wade (1973), that at the time of the adoption of our Constitution, and throughout the majority of the 19th century, abortion was viewed with less disfavor than under most American statutes currently in effect. Phrasing it another way, a woman enjoyed a substantially broader right to terminate a pregnancy than she does in most States today.
Though Marshalls notes on Commonwealth v. Randolph are extensive, this episode is poorly documented in the county court records, and, thus, no formal case law was generated. Regardless, the episode begs examination as it involved key Founders who occupied vastly different positions on the political spectrum, both nationally and in Virginia. The Federalist Marshall believed in a strong national government. Jefferson mostly supported a decentralized system. Henry was a populist. Yet all three tacitly agreed that abortion in this case was a private matter, not a criminal act worthy of further investigation and prosecution. In a remarkable coda, Nancy went on to marry Gouverneur Morris of New York, an influential signer of the Constitution, who was well aware of her backstory.
If anything, the saga demonstrates that the concept of abortion as a private matter was deeply rooted in the minds of our nations Founders. As Americans consider their next move on the abortion issue at the state level, they should be mindful of the precedents followed by these early giants of our republic.
NanaCat
(1,260 posts)Especially someone of his age, when mediocre white men could get into Ivy law schools over brown people and women.
Even a ten year delay probably would have derailed him from Yale Law and the USSC. Too many women and minorities would have trounced him from the elite path by 1982.
Hassler
(3,390 posts)Pushing Leonard Leo's agenda
Hekate
(90,828 posts)Any American jurist in the 21st century sworn to uphold the US Constitution who cites both a medieval cleric and a 16th century British judge who sat on cases against witches (as Alito did in the Dobbs decision) does not belong on our SCOTUS, period.
Alito is not necessarily stupid but he is dangerous.