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Mr.WeRP

(95 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:43 AM Apr 25

Pecker has something so bad on Trump, it prevents Trump from attacking him

This one has been bugging me. Trump has attacked everyone involved in the hush money case except for Pecker. Whatever it is, Pecker must have some concrete evidence of something so extremely bad on Trump that Trump absolutely remains silent on him.

If I had to guess, it is the pee tapes, but it really could be any number of things. It could be something with Epstein as well… or maybe Baron isn’t his kid.

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Pecker has something so bad on Trump, it prevents Trump from attacking him (Original Post) Mr.WeRP Apr 25 OP
Gee, I hope so . . . . . no_hypocrisy Apr 25 #1
Tapes from Epstein Island with young girls JT45242 Apr 25 #2
Yes I have the same thought. Something to do with Epstein. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #23
I think so too. I'm pretty sure there's some there there. BComplex Apr 25 #26
Yep. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #34
He was, after all, in charge of keeping track of all the horror stories thucythucy Apr 25 #3
Yup. PCIntern Apr 25 #4
We're only seeing the barest of outlines of what Pecker has on... Hugin Apr 25 #5
Because of his job, Pecker would be at the center of information flow bucolic_frolic Apr 25 #6
Remember, he makes up the news--he doesn't have to have something real Maeve Apr 25 #7
Well, sure. Pecker testified that he paid money for stories about Trump. yardwork Apr 25 #8
But surely this was all the subject of search/seizure... getagrip_already Apr 25 #12
Hmmmm. You have to remember how a narcissist thinks. yardwork Apr 25 #17
Yeah, all the FBI got was what Pecker could afford to lose... Hugin Apr 25 #20
Good point about the incompetent searches of Mar a Lago. yardwork Apr 25 #24
We'll know this is the case if Trump finally pays Pecker the $150,000 he owes him for the McDougal story. sop Apr 25 #9
And... 2naSalit Apr 25 #10
pecker reportedly had a safe full of secrets. when he left ne, no one knows where they went. mopinko Apr 25 #11
The fbi does.... getagrip_already Apr 25 #13
He doesn't want to push the gag order perhaps JohnSJ Apr 25 #14
Funny Mr.WeRP Apr 25 #18
Come on Pussy Grabber, say something about Pecker! Emile Apr 25 #15
It's probably something simpler like multiple hatchet jobs ordered. Renew Deal Apr 25 #16
I'm betting he has proof of tsf paying for an abortion for one of his victims. lark Apr 25 #19
Nithing is going to lose him those sanctimonious hypocrites. niyad Apr 25 #30
I think there are a few who would bolt. lark Apr 25 #45
That's what always comes to my mind TexasBushwhacker Apr 25 #44
no question mnmoderatedem Apr 25 #21
Trump has not attacked Karen McDougal either. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #22
A year-long relationship, apparently. yardwork Apr 25 #25
No it's something else. The year long affair is old news. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #33
Oh, my! Hugin Apr 25 #40
McDougal allegedly kept a hand written diary contemporaneously... Hugin Apr 25 #37
She stated he was racist, and denigrating of others, including her family. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #42
Racist tapes from outtakes on the apprentice? MLAA Apr 25 #27
Underage girls MFM008 Apr 25 #28
That can only win him points with his demented, perverted followers. Aristus Apr 25 #29
Give Pecker enough money and enough life-long 24/7 protection... Paladin Apr 25 #31
I'm getting a blurry vision of... Arne Apr 25 #32
Stop witht he pee tape nonsense NanaCat Apr 25 #35
The pee tape is real Mr.WeRP Apr 25 #36
The story was too detailed and specific ScratchCat Apr 25 #38
Good point PatSeg Apr 25 #41
This thread will shed some light on that. blm Apr 25 #39
Believe you are correct. republianmushroom Apr 25 #43
Wow Johnny2X2X Apr 25 #46
At this point, who gives a flying eff about the "pee tapes"? MorbidButterflyTat Apr 25 #47
Trump-Barr-Epstein Nexus would be interesting in open view. nt PufPuf23 Apr 25 #48

BComplex

(8,066 posts)
26. I think so too. I'm pretty sure there's some there there.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:35 AM
Apr 25

Epstein had a big hold on trump for a long long time.

Irish_Dem

(47,423 posts)
34. Yep.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:52 AM
Apr 25

Epstein's services would have been right up Trump's ally.
Underage girls, secrecy, illegal activity.

thucythucy

(8,086 posts)
3. He was, after all, in charge of keeping track of all the horror stories
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:48 AM
Apr 25

out there that Trump wanted suppressed.


Hugin

(33,207 posts)
5. We're only seeing the barest of outlines of what Pecker has on...
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:48 AM
Apr 25

A whole lot of people. He was very industrious during his time running AMI.

bucolic_frolic

(43,295 posts)
6. Because of his job, Pecker would be at the center of information flow
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:48 AM
Apr 25

If there are rumors, evidence, photos, tapes, or more GF's, Pecker would know.

Maeve

(42,288 posts)
7. Remember, he makes up the news--he doesn't have to have something real
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:49 AM
Apr 25

If he decided to ruin Donny, he could do it with a few Enquirer covers, truth be damned

yardwork

(61,711 posts)
8. Well, sure. Pecker testified that he paid money for stories about Trump.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:51 AM
Apr 25

Just imagine how much evidence the National Enquirer has amassed about a gross, criminal, sociopathic, apparent pedophile who ran for president? We've heard only a tiny fraction of what Pecker has on Trump.

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
12. But surely this was all the subject of search/seizure...
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:09 AM
Apr 25

The feds raided his offices and seized his electronics, no? The da would have that info.

Sure, it's possible it's in a mayonnaise jar under funk and wagnels porch, but really, they can be thorough when they want to be.

I would have to believe they have anything pucker has. Unless it is too old to use at trial, or just not admissible for some reason.

Of course the fbi, especially the sdny, might just have buried it and not turned it over to the nyag.

yardwork

(61,711 posts)
17. Hmmmm. You have to remember how a narcissist thinks.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:23 AM
Apr 25

He isn't really thinking about legal peril. He worries about being embarrassed in the public eye.

The FBI might have some of the evidence, but they mostly seem to be on Trump's team anyway. It's probably even more secure a "catch and kill" to have it in the FBI files.

And, I have no doubt that really bad, radioactive evidence is deeply hidden somewhere. Off shore, probably. Not on office hard drives.

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
20. Yeah, all the FBI got was what Pecker could afford to lose...
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 10:07 AM
Apr 25

The search HAD to find SOMETHING and he knew they were coming. (See: The multiple incomplete searches at Mar-a-largo for example)

It’s like a drug raid. The cops find some misdemeanor amount of junk. The perp says, “Aw, shucks, your honor. They caught me. I feel so bad. I won’t do it again.” Rinse. Repeat.

Pecker is just like Trump, except competent.

yardwork

(61,711 posts)
24. Good point about the incompetent searches of Mar a Lago.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:31 AM
Apr 25

They never even looked in the locked closet.

sop

(10,253 posts)
9. We'll know this is the case if Trump finally pays Pecker the $150,000 he owes him for the McDougal story.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:00 AM
Apr 25

lark

(23,156 posts)
19. I'm betting he has proof of tsf paying for an abortion for one of his victims.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:56 AM
Apr 25

That's the only thing I can think of off the top of my head that would scare tsf so much. He knows he could lose the evangelicals over that and so lose by a tidal wave.

lark

(23,156 posts)
45. I think there are a few who would bolt.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 02:56 PM
Apr 25

My dad, if he were alive, would never ever vote for a convicted criminal but otherwise would probably vote for tsf. He was an evangelical in all senses of the word, not the present use. He totally supported paying every penney he owed and would never tell a lie - no matter what and actually cared about the words and actions of Jesus. He didn't just talk the talk but actually walked it, he was authentic in his belief.

Now, almost all of the so called christians that support tsf are indeed sanctimonious hypocrites and asses, but there are a few who are genuine and caring folks. My folks and I argued all the time about politics, me being a leftie and them being righties, but we never argued about fraud or messing with the constitution..

TexasBushwhacker

(20,215 posts)
44. That's what always comes to my mind
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 12:42 PM
Apr 25

If he was such a swordsman in the 70s with his "personal Vietnam" of avoiding STDs, someone got pregnant at some point. It's inevitable.

mnmoderatedem

(3,729 posts)
21. no question
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 10:14 AM
Apr 25

when all is said and done, Pecker will probably have dished out about 10% of what he knows about trump.

yardwork

(61,711 posts)
25. A year-long relationship, apparently.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:32 AM
Apr 25

And given how much personal info he blabbed to Stormy Daniels during their brief encounters, imagine the pillow talk McDougal heard.

Irish_Dem

(47,423 posts)
33. No it's something else. The year long affair is old news.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:50 AM
Apr 25

Everyone already knows about it.

I just watched clips of Karen's interview with Anderson Cooper.

Karen states that had a ten month long affair with Trump.
They met five times a month for sex.

She was clear that Trump refused to use protection.
She looked down when AC asked her about it and appeared distressed about it.

I think there is a good chance that there was a pregnancy and abortion.

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
40. Oh, my!
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 12:02 PM
Apr 25

Along with my speculation that Mellie’s pregnancy was IVF and McDougal riding raw Trump ( * gag * ) and either getting pregnant or NOT with Trump. This could get EEN-teresting!

* rubs hands together maliciously *

I can only hope they go there. Maybe the paparazzi are good for something after all.

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
37. McDougal allegedly kept a hand written diary contemporaneously...
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:54 AM
Apr 25

During her affair with Trump. He’s got to be petrified of what it could expose. Daniels can be waved off as a “fling”. I believe it is why it is being emphasized by the defense.

McDougal (and others?) Not so much.

Irish_Dem

(47,423 posts)
42. She stated he was racist, and denigrating of others, including her family.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 12:08 PM
Apr 25

So yes she has dirt on him.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
29. That can only win him points with his demented, perverted followers.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:39 AM
Apr 25

After all, these are the people who want to be able to force ten year-old girls to get married.

NanaCat

(1,251 posts)
35. Stop witht he pee tape nonsense
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:52 AM
Apr 25

You fell for a classic MI6 psyops to distract the non-serious players from the important parts of the Steele Dossier--the stuff that needed serious investigation.

Burying the gold under a pile of shiny junk is an old trick that the spooks have played for decades now.

ScratchCat

(2,002 posts)
38. The story was too detailed and specific
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 12:00 PM
Apr 25

If the story had simply been "There is a video of Trump with some hookers", I'd be with you.

But the story was "hookers peeing on each other and the bed that the Obama's slept in". I don't see how someone comes up with that as "psyops" to distract from the rest. And Trump seemed way too concerned about that one detail of the Steele Dossier while blowing off every other allegation or hardly addressing them.

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
41. Good point
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 12:08 PM
Apr 25

If the story was totally bogus, he would just briefly deny it and move on, but you can always tell when Trump is guilty by the intensity and duration of his denial.

Yeah, I'd say there is probably some truth to the "Pee tape" allegations.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
46. Wow
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 02:57 PM
Apr 25

Pecker said, "We committed a campaign violation."

He testified that he was worried, but Cohen said he was not, telling Pecker: "Jeff Sessions is the attorney general and Donald Trump has him in his pocket."

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