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bigtree

(86,005 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 12:28 PM Apr 25

Gorsuch: "I'm not concerned with this case so much as future ones"

Last edited Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:54 PM - Edit history (1)

...so much of the objections and skepticism from Roberts, Alito, and Gorsuch has to do with issues that have little to nothing to do with the case they're considering.

Gorsuch: Do motives come into the core powers analysis, or not?

DOJ Attorney Dressen: It's not involved in this case. The DOJ has not had to take a position as to how these core powers would be resolved... none are involved in this case.


Moreover, the justices are cutting off the DOJ lawyer everytime he tries to lead them back to the issue at hand.

Gorsuch proclaims at one point that "...we're writing a rule for the ages."

But that leads to the question of why the court thought it was necessary to interject itself at all in this, if it isn't about the underlying case at hand, but about some concern of theirs for some other aspect of presidential powers and immunities?

Everyone is waiting for Trump to be tried before the election in which a victory by him would enable the defendant to make the prosecutions disappear. These right wing justices are delaying the case they're deliberately ignoring, when they could easily narrow their effort to the case at hand and leave the fiddling with the law out of it.

Put plainly, they could let this trial go forward, since they appear to have no credible argument against this particular prosecution at all, and restrict their worrying over the Exective branch to internal deliberations.


@judgeluttig @judgeluttig
As with the three-hour argument in Trump v. Anderson, a disconcertingly precious little of the two-hour argument today was even devoted to the specific and only question presented for decision.

Ari Melber @AriMelber 16m
Kavanaugh echoes Gorsuch saying they care only about a rule they make for posterity-not how it impacts this defendant (Trump)

Does the public believe these proclamations, that there's more concern about some hypothetical future defendant, than the actual, real one before them?




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Gorsuch: "I'm not concerned with this case so much as future ones" (Original Post) bigtree Apr 25 OP
Then why have they stayed the case? Mr.WeRP Apr 25 #1
it's all about the delay bigtree Apr 25 #7
They don't bother to hide their corruption and bias. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #2
Do we want Mr. 1600's to now project the future? GreenWave Apr 25 #3
They fancy themselves Originalists C_U_L8R Apr 25 #4
that's the charitable explanation bigtree Apr 25 #8
Gorsuch signed a blank check with Trump's name on it. AnnaLee Apr 25 #5
Just take yer f@cking time, Supreme Court Redleg Apr 25 #6

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
7. it's all about the delay
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 03:08 PM
Apr 25

...and the right wing justices who are openly downplaying the insurrection, with Alito balking at even trying Trump.


C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
4. They fancy themselves Originalists
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:26 PM
Apr 25

But will bend over backwards to create a whole new immunity 'thing' for their criminal patron court-farter

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
8. that's the charitable explanation
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:23 PM
Apr 25

...for making up reasons to craft law from the bench.

They're just engaged in looking to limit Trump's charges here, assuming the role the lower courts and the citizen juries hare well equipped to handle - without the clear bias coming from Trump's appointees to the Court.

AnnaLee

(1,041 posts)
5. Gorsuch signed a blank check with Trump's name on it.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:35 PM
Apr 25

Long ago.

I was somewhat struck by these guys expertise at reading George Washington's and other dead guys minds. I guess the women couldn't do this because, until recently, no women were allowed in the big guy rooms.

Redleg

(5,845 posts)
6. Just take yer f@cking time, Supreme Court
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:45 PM
Apr 25

There are no pressing matters waiting on your decision in this case.

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