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Without a doubt, there won't be a decision on the immunity question until after the election, and it will most (Original Post) JohnSJ Apr 25 OP
Vote, elect more Democrats, add 4 more justices. gab13by13 Apr 25 #1
Yeah, but not likely in the short term. JohnSJ Apr 25 #2
Democrat House & Senate & Executive will mean 4 Impeached & Tried justices. Traurigkeit Apr 25 #21
Not unless Dems get a super majority in the Senate, PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 25 #23
One can hope. And alot of the GOP senators look to be on life-support, in actuality Traurigkeit Apr 25 #24
Only a third of all Senators are elected any PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 25 #25
If President Biden wins again trump will eventually be tried. But, by then he will probably flee the USA. mucifer Apr 25 #3
If is a big word. JohnSJ Apr 25 #4
We have heard that for years. former9thward Apr 25 #5
Cheap Real Estate ... investor's delight. usonian Apr 25 #6
He is on trial now and has not fled nt sarisataka Apr 25 #15
Open Contract worldwide Traurigkeit Apr 25 #22
This is wrong TexasDem69 Apr 25 #7
Not if they send it back to the appeals court, and that is what Roberts suggested in his questioning JohnSJ Apr 25 #9
The problem with your thinking is, yea the decision will come down before recess, BUT bluestarone Apr 25 #10
Oh I was only pointing out that the Supreme Court TexasDem69 Apr 25 #16
does that mean the florida Tickle Apr 25 #8
Based on the questioning I heard, and Roberts suggesting it be sent back to the appeals court, along with JohnSJ Apr 25 #11
I don't understand Tickle Apr 25 #12
they can send it back to the trial court to determine facts....... getagrip_already Apr 25 #18
Thank you Tickle Apr 25 #20
Dred Scott II MadameButterfly Apr 25 #17
That is and has been the plan. republianmushroom Apr 25 #13
Talking about private vs official AnnaLee Apr 25 #14
I'm just waiting for tsf to blurt out he pardoned himself in his mind..... getagrip_already Apr 25 #19

Traurigkeit

(244 posts)
21. Democrat House & Senate & Executive will mean 4 Impeached & Tried justices.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 03:41 PM
Apr 25

plus add 4 more Justices and a 10 year limit of seating.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
23. Not unless Dems get a super majority in the Senate,
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 03:43 PM
Apr 25

since it takes 2/3 of members for an impeachment vote to succeed.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
25. Only a third of all Senators are elected any
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:15 PM
Apr 25

given election year. This time around, exactly 10 Republican held seats are up for re-election. Even if Dems won every one of those seats, it wouldn't give us the 2/3 majority that would be needed.

mucifer

(23,569 posts)
3. If President Biden wins again trump will eventually be tried. But, by then he will probably flee the USA.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 12:55 PM
Apr 25

TexasDem69

(1,830 posts)
7. This is wrong
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:11 PM
Apr 25

The decision will be out before the court goes on recess this summer. Probably by mid-July

JohnSJ

(92,409 posts)
9. Not if they send it back to the appeals court, and that is what Roberts suggested in his questioning
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:16 PM
Apr 25

bluestarone

(17,043 posts)
10. The problem with your thinking is, yea the decision will come down before recess, BUT
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:18 PM
Apr 25

That decision that finally comes down (at the end before recess) WILL be Send it back to appeals court. So what the fuck is gained?

TexasDem69

(1,830 posts)
16. Oh I was only pointing out that the Supreme Court
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:30 PM
Apr 25

Will decide by July. The trial won’t be complete before the election

Tickle

(2,541 posts)
8. does that mean the florida
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:12 PM
Apr 25

case is no hold until then?

I've been in meetings all day can someone tell me what I missed, please?

JohnSJ

(92,409 posts)
11. Based on the questioning I heard, and Roberts suggesting it be sent back to the appeals court, along with
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:18 PM
Apr 25

the questions poised, I would be surprised if there is a trial before the election.


Tickle

(2,541 posts)
12. I don't understand
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:22 PM
Apr 25

I'm sorry JohnSJ, I'm not following.

Send what back to the appeals court?

Are we not on appeal with the Surpreme court?

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
18. they can send it back to the trial court to determine facts.......
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:57 PM
Apr 25

They can issue instructions to test which are official acts and which are campaign acts. Then proceed to trial on any unofficial acts.

However, tsf's lawyers can and will appeal any such determinations, all the way back to scotus, gumming up the process for months and months.

there would be no dc trial before the election, and might not be one in 2025.

MadameButterfly

(1,065 posts)
17. Dred Scott II
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:42 PM
Apr 25

i heard them repeatedly refusing to address the immunity concept to the case before them, instead they want to come up with a ruling that covers all possible scenarios forever. That means it will take them a long time to write this.

Though it was hard for any of them to directly refute the seriousness of what Trump did, they seemed much more eager to protect a president from prosecution than the American people from a demagogue. Everything they suggested that might be done to a former president are the kinds of things Republicans do to, say, Democratic officials or women wanting abortions (like citizens looking for an excuse to prosecute, vigilantes in search of a crime). They are defending future presidents as if there will be any if they rule for immunity, and it seemed as if they hadn't noticed that the guy asking for immunity was the kind of guy who would do everything they feared....to everyone else.

They even broached extending immunity to state crimes.

This is going to be far worse than anyone has imagined.

AnnaLee

(1,041 posts)
14. Talking about private vs official
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:28 PM
Apr 25

Some members of the SC may see a private benefit in delaying that has nothing to do with appeasing Trump. If they delay, Trump might get back in the WH and setup a justice department that decides to drop the case. Then, the SC, having delayed by over broadening the scope of their mission, can narrow it back to just the Trump case which, now, THERE ISN'T ONE, so they can drop the decision about immunity and, meanwhile, let Trump, now back where he can do anything he wants, do as he pleases. Backside covered completely until next time. No next time, perhaps????

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
19. I'm just waiting for tsf to blurt out he pardoned himself in his mind.....
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 01:58 PM
Apr 25

So he can't be tried for any crimes anyway.

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