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In It to Win It

(8,285 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 03:36 PM Apr 25

Donald Trump had a fantastic day in the Supreme Court today

Donald Trump had a fantastic day in the Supreme Court today





Thursday’s argument in Trump v. United States was a disaster for Special Counsel Jack Smith, and for anyone who believes that the president of the United States should be subject to prosecution if they commit a crime.

At least five of the Court’s Republicans seemed eager to, at the very least, permit Trump to delay his federal criminal trial for attempting to steal the 2020 election until after this November’s election. And the one GOP appointee who seemed to hedge the most, Chief Justice John Roberts, also seemed to think that Trump enjoys at least some immunity from criminal prosecution.

Much of the Court’s Republican majority, moreover, seemed eager not simply to delay Trump’s trial until after the election, but to give him extraordinarily broad immunity from criminal prosecution should he be elected once again. Justice Brett Kavanaugh, for example, argued that when a president exercises his official powers, he cannot be charged under any federal criminal statute at all, unless that statute contains explicit language saying that it applies to the president.

As Michael Dreeben, the lawyer arguing on behalf of Smith’s prosecution team, told the Court, only two federal laws meet this standard. So Kavanaugh’s rule would amount to near complete immunity for anything a president did while exercising their executive authority.

Justice Samuel Alito, meanwhile, played his traditional role as the Court’s most dyspeptic advocate for whatever position the Republican Party prefers. At one point, Alito even argued that permitting Trump to be prosecuted for attempting to overthrow the 2020 presidential election would “lead us into a cycle that destabilizes ... our democracy,” because future presidents who lose elections would mimic Trump’s criminal behavior in order to remain in office and avoid being prosecuted by their successor.
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Donald Trump had a fantastic day in the Supreme Court today (Original Post) In It to Win It Apr 25 OP
Maybe. Turbineguy Apr 25 #1
Seems to be one of a large variety of opinions... I do agree on the likelihood of delay so in that hlthe2b Apr 25 #2
The SC is paving the way for a GOP fascist dictatorship. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #3
This is crap MorbidButterflyTat Apr 25 #4
Failing upwards thanks to "journalism" like this Blue Owl Apr 25 #5
I'm about on my last nerve MorbidButterflyTat Apr 25 #6
I don't think this is true. I thought there were more skeptical justices on the immunity question...th Demsrule86 Apr 25 #7

hlthe2b

(102,378 posts)
2. Seems to be one of a large variety of opinions... I do agree on the likelihood of delay so in that
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 03:40 PM
Apr 25

it would be a very good day for TSF, but the rest-- most of what I've read, the analyses, and what I heard myself --seem to afford some very different opinions.

Irish_Dem

(47,436 posts)
3. The SC is paving the way for a GOP fascist dictatorship.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 03:42 PM
Apr 25

They are the judicial rubber stamp.

Shocking but not surprising.

They are so lazy they don't even bother coming up with semi-intelligent excuses.

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
7. I don't think this is true. I thought there were more skeptical justices on the immunity question...th
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:46 PM
Apr 25

then not.

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