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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,567 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 03:48 PM Apr 25

The Petty Feud Between the NYT and the White House

I cancelled my subscription to the NYT back in 2015/2016 due to the coverage of Hillary. The NYT does a horrible job on covering Democrats and it is clear that the NYT editorial board is trying to punish President Biden



https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/04/25/new-york-times-biden-white-house-00154219

The seemingly minor incident over sourcing might not have escalated or triggered such emotional responses on both sides if not for tensions between the White House and the Times that had been bubbling beneath the surface for at least the last five years. Biden’s closest aides had come to see the Times as arrogant, intent on setting its own rules and unwilling to give Biden his due. Inside the paper’s D.C. bureau, the punitive response seemed to typify a press operation that was overly sensitive and determined to control coverage of the president.

According to interviews with two dozen people on both sides who were granted anonymity to discuss a sensitive subject, the relationship between the Democratic president and the country’s newspaper of record — for years the epitome of a liberal press in the eyes of conservatives — remains remarkably tense, beset by misunderstandings, grudges and a general lack of trust. Complaints that were long kept private are even spilling into public view, with campaign aides in Wilmington going further than their colleagues in the White House and routinely blasting the paper’s coverage in emails, posts on social media and memos.

Although the president’s communications teams bristle at coverage from dozens of outlets, the frustration, and obsession, with the Times is unique, reflecting the resentment of a president with a working-class sense of himself and his team toward a news organization catering to an elite audience — and a deep desire for its affirmation of their work. On the other side, the newspaper carries its own singular obsession with the president, aggrieved over his refusal to give the paper a sit-down interview that Publisher AG Sulzberger and other top editors believe to be its birthright.

The president’s press flacks might bemoan what they see as the entitlement of Times staffers, but they themselves put the newspaper on the highest of pedestals given its history, stature and unparalleled reach. And yet, they see the Times falling short in a make-or-break moment for American democracy, stubbornly refusing to adjust its coverage as it strives for the appearance of impartial neutrality, often blurring the asymmetries between former President Donald Trump and Biden when it comes to their perceived flaws and vastly different commitments to democratic principles.....

Although the newspaper, like most mainstream outlets with a heavy White House presence, devoted pages of coverage to the president’s early legislative successes, its unrelenting focus on Biden’s advanced age and his low numbers in the NYT’s approval poll have frustrated the president and top aides to no end. Beyond that, they bemoan the newspaper’s penchant for sweepy comparisons, analytical reporter memos — referred to in the Biden press shop as “opinion pieces” or “diary entries” — and story frames that seem consistently skeptical.......

The Times’ desire for a sit-down interview with Biden by the newspaper’s White House team is no secret around the West Wing or within the D.C. bureau. Getting the president on the record with the paper of record is a top priority for publisher A.G. Sulzberger. So much so that last May, when Vice President Kamala Harris arrived at the newspaper’s midtown headquarters for an off-the-record meeting with around 40 Times journalists, Sulzberger devoted several minutes to asking her why Biden was still refusing to grant the paper — or any major newspaper — an interview. Harris, according to three people in the room that day, suggested that he contact the White House press office and later grumbled to aides about the back-and-forth being a waste of the allotted time......

When describing their grievances with the Times, almost every Biden administration and campaign official used the word “entitled” to characterize the institution writ large and several of the individuals within the newsroom, where “Timesian” is an adjective routinely deployed without irony. Those officials described reporters who refused to correct minor errors or mischaracterizations in stories or those who haven’t been willing to engage with anyone besides the most senior administration officials. That said, many White House officials maintain productive working relationships with most of the Times reporters who cover the beat.

I am glad that I cancelled my subscription to the NYT and I tend to discount NYT coverage of President Biden
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50 Shades Of Blue

(10,048 posts)
3. So did I. I had a digital subscription, but couldn't cancel it online... I had to literally CALL
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:02 PM
Apr 25

the NYT and ARGUE with the customer service rep over canceling my fucking subscription.

spooky3

(34,481 posts)
4. I subscribed to WaPo and NYT for years. I see WaPo
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:21 PM
Apr 25

As superior at least when it comes to political coverage, though both are imperfect.

I canceled NYT a few months ago over their age bias (the straw that broke the camel’s back).

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,567 posts)
5. I have an online subscription to the Washington Post
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:32 PM
Apr 25

The Post is not perfect but does a better job compared to the NYT

dalton99a

(81,592 posts)
10. Bezos is a greedy sweatshop owner, but he leaves our democracy alone and he leaves his reporters alone
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 02:28 AM
Apr 26

as long as they don't write stories about Amazon


LetMyPeopleVote

(145,567 posts)
7. New York Times Reporter Admits The Paper Has An Anti-Biden Bias
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 07:59 PM
Apr 25

Water is also wet



https://www.thedailypoliticususa.com/p/new-york-times-reporter-admits-the?r=f805&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

A New York Times reporter said that their boss, publisher AG Sulzberger, is "pissed" that President Joe Biden hasn't done any interviews and "quietly encourages all of the tough reporting on his age."

“All these Biden people think that the problem is Peter Baker or whatever reporter they’re mad at that day,” one Times journalist said. “It’s A.G. He’s the one who is pissed [that] Biden hasn’t done any interviews and quietly encourages all the tough reporting on his age," Politico reported.

Negative, obsessive coverage about the age of one candidate while normalizing the criminally indicted candidate who incited an attack against his own country because a person is resentful that they aren't getting access isn't giving "objectivity." The emotionally-centered coverage of Biden is apparent to many readers.

The Times have attempted to get President Biden to give them an exclusive interview for years to no avail. "In Sulzberger’s view, according to two people familiar with his private comments on the subject, only an interview with a paper like the Times can verify that the 81-year-old Biden is still fit to hold the presidency." Indeed, "Sulzberger himself was part of a group from the Times that sat down with Trump, who gave the paper several interviews despite his rantings about its coverage. If Trump could do it, Sulzberger believes, so can Biden."

They report that the Biden administration respects the Times as the paper of record, but see it as failing to meet this specific (encroaching autocracy, my words) challenge to American democracy and is resentful over coverage they see as catering to elites while they are a working class administration, trying to lift up those who have been forgotten.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,567 posts)
8. The New York Times notably doesn't refute any quotes of claims in today's story.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 02:04 AM
Apr 26

The NYT hates it when they are called out for their biased reporting



dalton99a

(81,592 posts)
9. It's the same playbook they used against Hillary Clinton - persistent accusations and insinuations disguised as news
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 02:24 AM
Apr 26
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