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Kid Berwyn

(14,965 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:12 PM Apr 25

A President swears to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

It goes -- without needing to be said -- that he or she will follow the law in doing so.



Pretty darn clear. Yet SCOTUS found a way just the other day to say that the 14th Amendment doesn't say what the 14th Amendment says:

Section 3.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


Seems in keeping with modern GOP hypocrisy. In World War 2, the motto of the USN Seabees (Construction Battalion) was: "The difficult we do at once, the impossible takes a bit longer."

How Henry Kissinger put it: "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."

It's taken a bit of time, but the treasons of Nixon are now Old School A-OK. It is sickening to see that this has been realized.

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A President swears to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Apr 25 OP
The GOP sees oaths and allegiance as something for suckers and losers. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #1
They have put Party ahead of Nation. Kid Berwyn Apr 25 #4
It may be putting themselves personally ahead of everything else. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #5
I think TSF claims to never have taken the vow. captain queeg Apr 25 #2
The memories of our ancestors demand Justice. Kid Berwyn Apr 25 #6
More to the point, the President "shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed," rsdsharp Apr 25 #3
Thanks, yes! Kid Berwyn Apr 25 #7

Irish_Dem

(47,436 posts)
1. The GOP sees oaths and allegiance as something for suckers and losers.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:17 PM
Apr 25

Their only goals are power and money, nothing else matters at all.

Irish_Dem

(47,436 posts)
5. It may be putting themselves personally ahead of everything else.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:59 PM
Apr 25

I don't think some of the SC justices give a rat's ass about their party either.
They do what their billionaire benefactors tell them to do.
They are selling out for cash and a luxury lifestyle.

I also think the GOP justices are angry and some filled with rage.
They just want to stick it to Americans, they are sadistic.

captain queeg

(10,248 posts)
2. I think TSF claims to never have taken the vow.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:18 PM
Apr 25

Not that it matters, it would mean less than nothing to him.

Kid Berwyn

(14,965 posts)
6. The memories of our ancestors demand Justice.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 05:01 PM
Apr 25


Will Trump Hang?

BY MATTHEW STEVENSON
CounterPunch, JUNE 16, 2023

It’s not too far-fetched to imagine that Donald Trump is guilty of high treason, that is, giving “Aid and Comfort” to the enemies of the United States.

From his two impeachment trials and from his many pending criminal investigations, we know that to remain in high office Trump was willing to obstruct justice, lie to Congress, send thugs to Ukraine, blackmail foreign officials, withhold military aid approved by Congress, pay off porn stars, threaten election officials counting votes, imagine voter fraud, gin up slates of phony electors, march goons to the Capitol, cheer on attacks with hockey sticks against Washington police, and try to hang his vice-president.

With that as his record, why would it be a stretch to surmise that some of the purloined documents and state secrets stashed away in Mar-a-Lago shower rooms have ended up in the files of foreign operatives who would do harm to the country?

SNIP…

In the Oval Office, according to numerous published accounts, Trump’s aides had no luck whatsoever in enticing the president to read any of the state papers associated with the presidency.

No matter what was happening, Trump was indifferent to the reports in his in-box and governed entirely from what he learned watching Fox News. That he held on to his briefing books does not mean he read or understood them.

CONTINUES…

https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/06/16/will-trump-hang/

Might help reestablish the idea that no one is above the law.

Kid Berwyn

(14,965 posts)
7. Thanks, yes!
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 05:05 PM
Apr 25

With Donald J Trump, "Top Secret Document" means about the same as a roll of toilet paper: shit to be used for shit and stuff.



So, when the pee-resident who talked with Putin in secret is charged with espionage, we must consider who will watch the watchers? Evidently, even when a former pee-resident (or Defendant) is a Republican, that's not the Supreme Court's job.



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