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applegrove

(118,794 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:28 PM Apr 25

Americans Warm to Mass Deportations

Americans Warm to Mass Deportations

April 25, 2024 at 6:23 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 30 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2024/04/25/americans-warm-to-mass-deportations/

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Half of Americans — including 42% of Democrats — say they’d support mass deportations of undocumented immigrants, according to a new Axios survey.

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Americans Warm to Mass Deportations (Original Post) applegrove Apr 25 OP
The growth rate will tank. applegrove Apr 25 #1
Do these Americans realize the damage that would be done to our country? Elessar Zappa Apr 25 #2
We need controlled legal immigration Amishman Apr 25 #29
Fine but asylum seekers are entitled to a hearing, even if they didn't enter legally. Elessar Zappa Apr 25 #30
Bullshit................... Lovie777 Apr 25 #3
That's a shame. I live in an area with a lot of "undocumented" immigrants. Most are better for community than the rubes Silent Type Apr 25 #4
The PutinGOP has done a good job gaslighting the public. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #5
If we haven't killed off the last Native American, what do they think? GreenWave Apr 25 #6
undocumented becomes documented becomes citizens becomes...... getagrip_already Apr 25 #7
Prosecution of those that economically and otherwise benefit from illegal immigrants PufPuf23 Apr 25 #8
Start with the Russians. Kid Berwyn Apr 25 #9
I favor the mass deportations of all Trump supporters. Sky Jewels Apr 25 #10
What do they think these immigrants are doing? Sitting around, getting high, and living off welfare? patphil Apr 25 #11
++++agree Diamond_Dog Apr 25 #17
Until it affects the restaurants they frequent, the clubs they leisure at, the child care workers they depend on, ... Freethinker65 Apr 25 #12
Lawmakers in Florida Mad_Machine76 Apr 25 #34
A country's wealth lies MOMFUDSKI Apr 25 #13
Axios using a Mark Penn Harris Poll? EleanorR Apr 25 #14
So are you saying the results aren't true? Or that they shouldn't be reported? brooklynite Apr 25 #31
Given Penn often runs shitty push polls EleanorR Apr 25 #37
And just who do they think will harvest our food crops or work in dangerous meat processing plants? Lonestarblue Apr 25 #15
I hear child labor is on the rise......................... Lovie777 Apr 25 #18
People are seeing their cities pay more to house and support the undocumented ripcord Apr 25 #16
Well, no one ever accused Americans of being the sharpest tools in the shed. Elessar Zappa Apr 25 #23
It only works for a segment of the population (Abbott's PR campgain) I find it disgusting. walkingman Apr 25 #28
In New York parents are upset because their kids soccor fields have been turned in encampments ripcord Apr 25 #32
I put the blame for this squarely on Abbott and DeSantis because instead walkingman Apr 25 #35
We are all monsters Iris Apr 25 #19
We went from "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses" to "fuck off and die, illegals!!". Initech Apr 25 #20
Deport them where? Deport them how? pfitz59 Apr 25 #21
We'd need to deport alot of Dutch, Irish, Swedes, English, French, Italians. going back from 1805 Traurigkeit Apr 25 #24
including 42% of Democrats - where they get this number ? Traurigkeit Apr 25 #22
Deplorable. DemocraticPatriot Apr 25 #25
No. Not even mass deportations of Republicans. Just NO. n/t TygrBright Apr 25 #26
What is the process when asylum claims get denied ? MichMan Apr 25 #27
I suggest deporting at least half of the Republicans in red states. LiberalFighter Apr 25 #33
They think it is what they want, but they are wrong. Chainfire Apr 25 #36

Elessar Zappa

(14,077 posts)
2. Do these Americans realize the damage that would be done to our country?
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:30 PM
Apr 25

We need more immigrants, not fewer. We don’t have enough medical workers (caregivers and nurses primarily), construction workers, skilled labor (plumbing, electricians, etc.).

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
29. We need controlled legal immigration
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 05:59 PM
Apr 25

We need to fix our system, allowing in those we need, for the time we need them, and yes - deport those who are not here legally. I do however welcome a process (during this reform and transition) for those here illegally to have preferential treatment for legal work visas for which they are qualified. Also special treatment / status for those who have been here most of their lives.

Elessar Zappa

(14,077 posts)
30. Fine but asylum seekers are entitled to a hearing, even if they didn't enter legally.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 06:01 PM
Apr 25

I do think we should make legal immigration easier.

Silent Type

(2,967 posts)
4. That's a shame. I live in an area with a lot of "undocumented" immigrants. Most are better for community than the rubes
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:34 PM
Apr 25

who voted for trump by 75%.

I can see the necessity of restricting entry of something, but I'm totally against deporting people who have lived here if just for a few years and contributed to society.

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
7. undocumented becomes documented becomes citizens becomes......
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:39 PM
Apr 25

slippery slope there once the apparati is in place.

Your documentation is no longer valid because we don't like the country you came from or your religion or something you said, so off you go.

Your parents weren't properly documented? Your citizenship isn't valid, so off you go.

Member of a terrorist org like blm or antifa (or just sympathize, whatever that means), lost your right to citizenship, off you go.

But before that you will lose your rights to vote, to work, to receive any assistance, to have a bank account or credit card, to have a drivers license, or own property.

If you commit a crime while under suspended rights, you are gone.

PufPuf23

(8,839 posts)
8. Prosecution of those that economically and otherwise benefit from illegal immigrants
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:40 PM
Apr 25

is an obvious method to dampen the number of undocumented immigrants.

The investigation and prosecution could be viewed as a jobs program as to be effective as the reach would need to be broad. 😜

Go after corporations. Perhaps large corporations could be treated on something similar to class action.

Go after small business such as roofers and yard care. Substantial fines that make hiring illegal workers non-economic.

Doubt that anything of effective scope and depth is likely.

Sky Jewels

(7,143 posts)
10. I favor the mass deportations of all Trump supporters.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:43 PM
Apr 25

They support a man who tried to overthrow the U.S. government. They are treasonous traitors and fascist scum.

patphil

(6,215 posts)
11. What do they think these immigrants are doing? Sitting around, getting high, and living off welfare?
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:44 PM
Apr 25

They have jobs that contribute to, and support, our economy.
It would be a devastating blow to our economy to engage in mass deportations of undocumented immigrants.
Can you imagine the thousands of businesses that would close, and the amount of fruit and vegetables that would rot in the fields without them?
The price of food would rise dramatically, as would many other goods and services we rely on. Inflation could go back to pandemic levels.

This deportation mentality is insane.

Freethinker65

(10,057 posts)
12. Until it affects the restaurants they frequent, the clubs they leisure at, the child care workers they depend on, ...
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:46 PM
Apr 25

the eldercare and home healthcare aids they have relied upon, their house cleaners, their lawn maintenance and snow removal, the prices of fresh produce at their local grocery store, their child's playmates at school, their sweet neighbor of many years down the street that has occasionally come to their aid...

Mad_Machine76

(24,438 posts)
34. Lawmakers in Florida
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 06:15 PM
Apr 25

are already lamenting the loss of undocumented immigrants but of course it's too late now that many have been fired and/or scared off by their crackdown.

EleanorR

(2,395 posts)
37. Given Penn often runs shitty push polls
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 10:53 PM
Apr 25

i think it's gross Axios used Penn, and I think it's worth looking more closely at the poll to see if it is indeed another shitty push poll.

Lonestarblue

(10,084 posts)
15. And just who do they think will harvest our food crops or work in dangerous meat processing plants?
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 04:55 PM
Apr 25

Who will fill the shortages of medical workers? Who will contribute to SS for retirees? It is immigrants who have bolstered our economy.

ripcord

(5,537 posts)
16. People are seeing their cities pay more to house and support the undocumented
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 05:04 PM
Apr 25

More funds are being diverted from programs for this purpose. Abbott's PR campaign is working.

walkingman

(7,668 posts)
28. It only works for a segment of the population (Abbott's PR campgain) I find it disgusting.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 05:58 PM
Apr 25

Texas State government sucks by any measure.

ripcord

(5,537 posts)
32. In New York parents are upset because their kids soccor fields have been turned in encampments
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 06:12 PM
Apr 25

There have also been some problems with the migrants behavior, it is many little ways people are starting to feel this. It isn't like it is a small amount of money, NYC spent $1.45 billion in 2023 to care for the undocumented. The right is going after low hanging fruit, some people are living on the edge, the idea that the money should be spent on them instead finds support very easily.

walkingman

(7,668 posts)
35. I put the blame for this squarely on Abbott and DeSantis because instead
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 06:47 PM
Apr 25

of allowing the border patrol (FEDS) to control the situation they are actually using Texas taxpayer money to bus/fly these folks to Blue cities around the nation (BTW - aren't most cities Blue?).

Were is not for them this situation would be forced on Congress to do something instead of using immigration for political purposes - which is the only reason they are doing it.

NYC immigrant problem is another example of the chaos that the GOP uses (quite effectively) to further their political agenda.

Initech

(100,104 posts)
20. We went from "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses" to "fuck off and die, illegals!!".
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 05:12 PM
Apr 25

Sigh... WTF! It's inscribed on the Statue Of Liberty you racist fucks!

pfitz59

(10,391 posts)
21. Deport them where? Deport them how?
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 05:16 PM
Apr 25

What of their US-born spouses and children? Do these simpletons understand the complexity of the situation? "Round 'em up and ship 'em out! Uh huh!" What we need is more administrators to clear the backlog of cases. Make more citizens and fix the problem.

Traurigkeit

(250 posts)
24. We'd need to deport alot of Dutch, Irish, Swedes, English, French, Italians. going back from 1805
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 05:19 PM
Apr 25

think that is when the first immigrantion laws were written.

Place gonna be empty in the Mid-West, Southern and Western states.

Traurigkeit

(250 posts)
22. including 42% of Democrats - where they get this number ?
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 05:16 PM
Apr 25

But Mass Media is paid off by the GOP as we heard in court.

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