We passed the Chinese exclusion act in the late 19th century, and in the 1920s passed legislation that cut immigration by over 95 percent. Legislation which stood 40 years. And these were legal immigrants, the kind we say we like. During the Great Depression. some of Mexican descent, including those who were citizens and were born here, were deported to Mexico because they were taking "American" jobs. Then there was our fascist period in the 1930s, which Rachel Maddow has described with such skill. We are a country which birthed the Lindberghs, McCarthy. Our better angels have prevailed before. Will they again? I don't know.

Jews, I should mention., were targets of the Klan during its second, 20th century rebirth. Then there were the Jews we refused to let immigrate during the Nazi era, condemning some to their deaths.

We have a bifurcated population.

Probably similar to the Sunni and Shia.

Trump is the just a tool... a golden calf for those on the right to achieve their goals.

Different world views... different cultural and domestic aspirations.

white nationalist vs the melting pot.

We're not bifurcated. That means evenly split. We're far from that.
We are the 77% who voted for Biden. The 23% get corporate media hyped as if their passive support of the politics of political violence is the normal course of national and state elections.

We have corporate hype running perception management to make the 23% look bigger and more powerful than they are; corporate perception management that omits reports of high levels of campaign money on the Democratic Party side, 100% wins in special state elections, voter suppression in red states, that their poll sampling is skewed, that only amplifies perfect-as-the-enemy-of-the-good for our party, and that's just a few examples.

Different isn't equivalent (or bifurcated, either) in either money or governance or polling or political violence or voter numbers.

Here's what's really simple.
Be discerning. Believe Simon Rosenberg. Don't be afraid. Don't believe the hype.

He got 51.3%.

The focus of media is to make you believe the nation is actively bifurcated.

It isn't, because the rest of the nation have gone along with that 51.3% of American who actively voted for Biden.

Discern their numbers.

-- 2020 Total actual voting age population = 246,000,000 = 246,000,000 (discounting immigrants and under age 18 population)

-- Total Registereds as of Nov 3 2020 = 213,799,467 = 87% of the total voting age population
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/number-of-registered-voters-by-state

-- Total registereds who voted in 2020 (R + D + 3rd party) = 158,397,374

-- Total voters WHO VOTED BUT DID NOT VOTE TRUMP (D + 3rd) = 84,174,344
-- Total registereds who did NOT vote in 2020 = 55,402,093

Total ADULTS WHO COULD HAVE REGISTERED AND WHO DID NOT VOTE IN 2020 (voting age pop minus registered who did/did not vote) = 246,000,000 - 158,394,605 = 87,605,395 = 35.6% of the voter eligible adult population of the U.S.

-- Total 2020 US population (voting age adults, minors + undocumenteds) that did not vote for Trump = 255,777,407 out of 329.5 million = 77%
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Total+US+population+in+2020%3F%3F&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Give or take a percent, 23% of the US population did not vote for Trump. Yes, that IS significant.

It remains significant because the new voter age youth, registered non-voters and unregistered but eligible voters will matter in 2024. That is the 35.6% that Biden can win beyond the 7,000,000 who already put him over the top in 2020.

Your math is deeply flawed.

You're dismissing the numbers who did not vote for Trump. You focus on Biden and only the voting population like corporate media do, instead of the numbers in the glass that's over 2/3 empty for Trump.

I can't do any more than show you the numbers. If you can't see what they mean and want to buy the corporate hype about how close this will be, so be it.

Why you think the people who did not vote are Biden supporters is beyond me. The most likely answer is they support no one. They don't care and that is why they don't vote.

Sure, the 2/3 who did not vote for either doesn't mean they're Biden supporters, but media are drowning the public in messaging that gets you to think they're all in to tip Trump.
Why you believe that is beyond me.

Sure, they might support no one. There's already the 2020 category that counts that number.
But you say that the entering categories that I noted "don't care." But you really don't know that.
Even the "don't care" numbers might still want a free society enough to make the effort. I'm seeing effort with newly registering youth everywhere.

It's the case that corporate media don't even pay attention to your "don't care" category even in battleground states. We read about red state suppressions, but not how battleground states are keeping voting at least as fair as in 2020.

Maybe you can't be persuaded by the numbers and newly emerging voter registrations that I see trending toward using mail-in ballots.

I myself keep in mind SCOTUS's newly allowed TX voter suppression re mail-in votes, which shows how afraid solid red states are of emerging voter categories that are PROTECTED by four federal mail laws that can nail those states that tamper, lose or misplace mail-in votes, as they can about ANY mail. That kind of TX suppression, validated by the SC, should tell you that they're afraid of the federal laws that protect mail-in balloting.
(We can't talk about mail-in voting without considering DeJoy. But I don't want to get started about what 'accidents' around 'restructuring' and expanding outsourcing of mail delivery DeJoy might be derelict in allowing. What's one guy losing his job when he can help his appointee win, right? So suffice to say we don't trust him as Trump's appointee any more than we trust the bought Trump Six on the court. )

If you want to err on the side of buying corporate hype that this election is close, go ahead.
But that's like betting against Biden, imo.
Furthermore, as far as I'm concerned, anyone who buys media hype about this election being close is betting against Biden.

What's simple is assuming people are staying the same. I say they're not.

I used to prefer being a wrong pessimist to being a wrong optimist, but the numbers of special elections and referendum wins look too good for that this year.

where money is speech.

Everyone needs to VOTE to stop this dystopian nightmare.

I would be afraid to go down the street to the grocery store to get some milk and chips. I feel deeply for them. This is horrible.

I live in Chicago and black people are not afraid to go about their daily lives.

Black guy walks to the convenience store and is stopped by cops coming home. Black guy goes jogging around his block and is stopped by cops because he is running in an upscale neighborhood. I'm very sorry that I do not have links to these events, but keep your eyes on the news, there will be another such event any time now. And of course black people are fine in Chicago. I live in a town where no black people live. None. When a black person is passing through town and stops at the grocery store, you would think he had two heads, the way people look at him and give him a wide berth, he is so scary. Sorry, no link for that, either, since I was there watching it and did not report it to CNN. I would, to repeat myself, be VERY uncomfortable in this town if I were black and out and about at night. This is Trumplandia. And the good ol' southern boys here LOVE their guns.

When it comes to skin color, I would say no one is. It would be odd if they were. The Mayor of Chicago is Black. The Police Superintendent is Black. Black people are not afraid to go about their daily business in Chicago.

Book bans
Politicians intervening in medicine
Scrubbing history lesson plans
Countering diversity
etc.

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And many people believe incorrectly that the pregnancy has been going for six weeks when actually it is only six weeks since the first day of the last menstrual period, because that is the date that is requested and recorded when your pregnancy test comes back positive. And medical science now knows that the egg in question was dropped and fertilized about two weeks after the first day of the previous period, and therefore the actual pregnancy at that point is only four weeks along. Joe Biden was right; most women do not know they are pregnant at that point, six weeks after the first day of the last menstrual period.

America. Heck, look back at 20th century history for example, from 1900 - 1950s.

There's really not much of a difference. Minorities, Jews and women endured the same as what's described here on the regular.

If true progress was actually being achieved by all, wouldn't be discussing none of this.

In parts of the country citizens are afraid to put out lawn signs or have bumper stickers on their cars showing their support for a political candidate. They are afraid.

I learned my lesson years ago while wearing a Howard Dean tee shirt.

earrings I was a little nervous for my car's sake. But then total strangers would ask to take a picture of them if my face was concealed. I couldn't wear them from 2020 until this year since Covid mask straps got caught in the earrings. I made a fresh new batch and strangers are always commenting on how much they love them.

This week I went out and 2 different stores had staff that started conversations with me. I DO live in a blue area and that helps a lot! Last week I attended a neighborhood meeting and the only thing all 5 people agreed on was that tRump has to disappear ASAP.

Orange Shitanistan

They have counted on voter apathy (and voter suppression.)