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enough

(13,262 posts) Thu Apr 25, 2024, 07:59 PM Apr 25

Would the Justices agree that the President can order

the assassination of a Supreme Court Justice who is standing in the way of something the President believes is important?

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Would the Justices agree that the President can order (Original Post) enough Apr 25 OP

President Biden has a green light! LetMyPeopleVote Apr 25 #1

The court is really only ruling for this plaintiff, while pretending it's ruling for the presidency. ancianita Apr 25 #14

"Is that how this works? " I'd sure like to be able to throw this out there just to chum the waters... Hekate Apr 25 #20

Excellent point Tribetime Apr 25 #2

It's all about perspective, isn't it? crickets Apr 25 #3

I wonder which one should be first? LiberalFighter Apr 25 #4

Not necessary to go one by one NanaCat Apr 25 #16

That's why they won't rule that he has blanket immunity. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 25 #5

They'll just conveniently rule Diraven Apr 25 #15

As I said in other threads: it'll be Bush v. Gore, version 2.0 Wednesdays Apr 25 #19

That was a lie the first time, and will be again. Whatever the Court does is a precedent. Hekate Apr 25 #21

Probably a good idea to state this is a hypothetical question ala blm Apr 25 #6

Of course. The entire discussion is hypothetical, and this is not the first time today crickets Apr 25 #7

Lets take it one step further odins folly Apr 25 #13

I understand what you mean, though it seems pretty obvious given what they were talking about today. enough Apr 25 #8

Just good to stay in CYA mode on a public forum. blm Apr 25 #10

Biden could order special forces to abduct Jesse Watters and forced him to watch Rachel Maddow 24/7 for months LetMyPeopleVote Apr 25 #9

The best reductio ad absurdum I've seen. Thanks. TheRickles Apr 25 #11

I kept thinking that the President could send the Supremes to Guantanamo Bay mtngirl47 Apr 25 #12

Technically, I believe that the President can send anyone he wants DemocraticPatriot Apr 25 #18

Or, more to the point, 5 or 6 Supreme Court justices ?? DemocraticPatriot Apr 25 #17

A Proclamation by President Biden👇💯👍✊ /s LetMyPeopleVote Apr 26 #22

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,567 posts)

1. President Biden has a green light!

Reply to enough (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:02 PM

Apr 25

Link to tweet

ancianita

(36,137 posts)

14. The court is really only ruling for this plaintiff, while pretending it's ruling for the presidency.

Reply to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:31 PM

Apr 25

The CURRENT president would be disallowed to act based on their immunity ruling.

Not a lawyer, but most court observers on MSNBC would agree. Roberts will have to thread the needle for the rest when he writes their decision to kick it back to Chutkan, then later, when they get new district and appeals rulings on this case to do their thinking for them. Then follow or ignore as the presidential election helps them decide.

Were the court to let assassination be an official act, and done before Jan 6 2025, the nation would be rid of Trump forever. Yeah, I said it.

Hekate

(90,827 posts)

20. "Is that how this works? " I'd sure like to be able to throw this out there just to chum the waters...

Reply to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:52 PM

Apr 25

Tribetime

(4,710 posts)

2. Excellent point

Reply to enough (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:03 PM

Apr 25

crickets

(25,983 posts)

3. It's all about perspective, isn't it?

Reply to enough (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:09 PM

Apr 25

"I didn't think the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party president would eat my face!"

Some of the arguments and Supreme Court justices' comments today were off the charts. Just wow.

LiberalFighter

(51,094 posts)

4. I wonder which one should be first?

Reply to enough (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:17 PM

Apr 25

NanaCat

(1,251 posts)

16. Not necessary to go one by one

Reply to LiberalFighter (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:47 PM

Apr 25

This will be in store for a bunch of liberals if this treacherous court rules there is no presidential immunity and TSF wins:

But it could also work in reverse. Their hate and arrogance blinds them to that possibility.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,657 posts)

5. That's why they won't rule that he has blanket immunity. Nt

Reply to enough (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:32 PM

Apr 25

Diraven

(532 posts)

15. They'll just conveniently rule

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:41 PM

Apr 25

That Trump is immune just for the things he did, but Biden doesn't have immunity to do anything.

Wednesdays

(17,412 posts)

19. As I said in other threads: it'll be Bush v. Gore, version 2.0

Reply to Diraven (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:50 PM

Apr 25

The ruling will apply ONLY to THIS case, and not apply to any future cases.

Hekate

(90,827 posts)

21. That was a lie the first time, and will be again. Whatever the Court does is a precedent.

Reply to Wednesdays (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:55 PM

Apr 25

blm

(113,094 posts)

6. Probably a good idea to state this is a hypothetical question ala

Reply to enough (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:34 PM

Apr 25

the questions posed by the Supreme Court justices today.

crickets

(25,983 posts)

7. Of course. The entire discussion is hypothetical, and this is not the first time today

Reply to blm (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:47 PM

Apr 25

that someone has made the same point:

Link to tweet

Annie van Leur
@AnnevanLeur
Jack Smith could stop Trump's immunity case COLD with one argument to SCOTUS

Joyce Vance:
[image text - "Why not take it a step further and tell the court that if Trump has the sort of broad immunity he claims he does, a president would be free to order the assassination of Supreme Court justices who disagree with him, and could not be prosecuted for doing that. Make the impact of Trump's argument unmistakeable."]
10:58 AM · Apr 24, 2024 · 50.8K Views

Somebody should point this out to SCOTUS, to put it in the record and to make them think about what presidential immunity really means. Every time I remember of some of the arguments being made today, I turn into a sputtering mess. It's so upsetting.

odins folly

(157 posts)

13. Lets take it one step further

Reply to crickets (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:31 PM

Apr 25

Round up all those fuckers in the federalist society and the heritage foundation and put them in a cell and then charge them with being enemies of the state...

enough

(13,262 posts)

8. I understand what you mean, though it seems pretty obvious given what they were talking about today.

Reply to blm (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:51 PM

Apr 25

Your post is a good reminder of where we all are at this point.

blm

(113,094 posts)

10. Just good to stay in CYA mode on a public forum.

Reply to enough (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:53 PM

Apr 25

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,567 posts)

9. Biden could order special forces to abduct Jesse Watters and forced him to watch Rachel Maddow 24/7 for months

Reply to enough (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:53 PM

Apr 25

Link to tweet

TheRickles

(2,081 posts)

11. The best reductio ad absurdum I've seen. Thanks.

Reply to enough (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:14 PM

Apr 25

mtngirl47

(991 posts)

12. I kept thinking that the President could send the Supremes to Guantanamo Bay

Reply to enough (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:30 PM

Apr 25

for the remainder of their lifetime appointments to the court. Theoretically, he or she would be immune since it would be part of their job.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,413 posts)

18. Technically, I believe that the President can send anyone he wants

Reply to mtngirl47 (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 25, 2024, 10:45 PM

Apr 25

to the Guantanamo prison, under previously passed Republican legislation....

.... without justifying it to anyone, if he believes that they are a terrorist threat---

and the rightwing justices would seem to fall into that category, IMHO.