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(52,348 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 10:44 PM Apr 25

If the president needs immunity, why not immunity for judges? Or congresspeople?

Or cabinet members?

What is unique about the office of the president?

Which functions listed in the constitution might require lawbreaking?

Does alito fear prosecution? Maybe he'll help overthrow our government to avoid prosecution.


So disturbing that these questions are being raised. A reasonable court would laugh in the plaintiff lawyer's face. Yeah, right, the framers, who feared a tyrant more than anything else, wanted presidents to be able to break laws.

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If the president needs immunity, why not immunity for judges? Or congresspeople? (Original Post) unblock Apr 25 OP
Both already have immunity. If judges didn't have immunity for marybourg Apr 25 #1
Here's a long list of federal politician convicted of crimes: unblock Apr 26 #4
I don't understand what that has to do with my post marybourg Apr 26 #5
Donnie and the right wing justices seem to be angling for far broader immunity unblock Apr 26 #6
I see. marybourg Apr 26 #7
Time for Rebl2 Apr 25 #2
Yes. He is called the President. His job is to PRESIDE. raging moderate Apr 25 #3
Absolutely correct!!! Rebl2 Apr 26 #8

marybourg

(12,639 posts)
1. Both already have immunity. If judges didn't have immunity for
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 10:51 PM
Apr 25

their judicial acts, you know tRump would have already sued all his judges. You can google congressional immunity. I don’t want to make a mistake about the details here.

unblock

(52,348 posts)
4. Here's a long list of federal politician convicted of crimes:
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 12:53 AM
Apr 26
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes

Granted not all of them could be call "official acts" but certainly nothing Donnie is accused of is either, no matter how much the right wing says anything a (Republican) president does is a legal, official act.

marybourg

(12,639 posts)
5. I don't understand what that has to do with my post
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 01:04 AM
Apr 26

about judges and congress members , who both have limited immunity for official acts.

unblock

(52,348 posts)
6. Donnie and the right wing justices seem to be angling for far broader immunity
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 01:14 AM
Apr 26

Or at least a very broad definition of "official acts" when it comes to the presidency.

Congresspeople and judges have gone to prison for things like failure to disclose contributions and gifts, bribery, etc.

Presidents should not have immunity for such crimes, never mind crimes that are obviously not official acts (e.g., Dennis Hastert).

Donnie has not been indicted for signing legislation or issuing any executive order. Yet they're taking about immunity -- for things reasonable people would not consider "official acts".

Rebl2

(13,570 posts)
2. Time for
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 10:53 PM
Apr 25

some of these people on Supreme Court to go. Some on SC no longer want to follow the constitution. They think those who wrote the constitution and approved it wanted presidents to be allowed to break all laws and ignore the constitution. I DON’T think so!

raging moderate

(4,311 posts)
3. Yes. He is called the President. His job is to PRESIDE.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 11:06 PM
Apr 25

The President is NOT supposed to RULE the United States. He is supposed to PRESIDE over the functioning of the executive branch of the United States government. He does not have a divine right of kings (which even the King of England does not have, by the way). He is NOT a RULER.

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