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I'm leaving that title all-caps because that's what Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding had for the start of his tweet about this a few hours ago.
The CDC's updated guidelines are here: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/h5/worker-protection-ppe.htm
Link to tweet
@DrEricDing
⚠️CDC WARNING FOR ALL VETERINARIANS, POULTRY, DAIRY & CATTLE FARMWORKERS, SLAUGHTERHOUSE WORKERSNew CDC guidelines now released to use PPE for high risk bird flu exposure occupations (all recommended):
📌N95 respirators
📌Goggles 🥽 or face shield 🛡️
📌Coveralls or fluid-resistant aprons
📌Head covering
📌Rubber boots with sealed seams
📌Gloves
Furthermore:
📍Designated areas for changing PPEs
📍Do not eat, drink, chew gum, chew tobacco, smoke, vape, or use the bathroom while wearing above PPE
📍Shower after work shift
📍 see full list for more details).
Glad the
@CDCgov
is taking this seriously. You should too. And please dont drink raw milk 🥛! #AvianFlu #BirdFlu #H5N1
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/h5/worker-protection-ppe.htm
He also advises, in that thread, "Don't do raw milk" and "protect your cats, too."
LauraInLA
(429 posts)vanlassie
(5,695 posts)cbabe
(3,555 posts)outdoor animals, feedlots, etc.
vanlassie
(5,695 posts)☹️Protect them how?
Xavier Breath
(3,685 posts)Maybe he's thinking of indoor/outdoor cats that hunt and sometimes kill birds?
vanlassie
(5,695 posts)I didnt really mean to make light of this.
highplainsdem
(49,122 posts)highplainsdem
(49,122 posts)indoors so they won't be likely to eat any infected animals. The virus can also be carried by house mice, unfortunately (I just googled that - https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/10883 ).
Forget about getting a mask on a cat.
PlutosHeart
(1,300 posts)has been documented cases of cats and dogs both getting exposed. High fatality rates.
mucifer
(23,624 posts)RandySF
(59,772 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,104 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,403 posts)...I'd think raw milk poses a risk for dairy farms.
My dad was a milkman, so I've been inside several dairies.
Even back in the day, it was easy to avoid exposure to raw milk. There are no open vats. Everything is in sanitary piping systems. Only at the fill line is it exposed to air, and by then it's pasteurized.
The people running milking machines, on the other hand, would be easily exposed.
littlemissmartypants
(22,855 posts)People who aren't following the rules and good sense science just because they think they don't have to and want to make a buck shouldn't be selling food to the public that is possibly unsafe.
I wonder if there's a way to report that behavior to the local health department. Would they be shut down? What recourse do we have if someone drinks unsafe products and gets sick or dies?
Many of these roadside milk sales and they are abundant where I live, advertise that unpasteurized milk is healthier and better for you and nothing could be further from the truth.
orangecrush
(19,666 posts)wnylib
(21,788 posts)beef is thoroughly cooked before eating it. I know that people prefer rare or medium rare steaks, but I'd hold off on ordering them or cooking them that way at home for now. Hamburgers and anything made with ground beef should be completely cooked, like meatballs.
I heard on NPR that pasteurized milk should be ok because pasteurization kills the virus. I'm wondering about eggs. Once cooked they should be ok, whether cooked alone or in a recipe, but what about handling them while cooking?
Other meat, like chicken and pork, are (or should be) always completely cooked anyway.
Bluethroughu
(5,206 posts)Wow.
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BannonsLiver
(16,548 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,503 posts)Cha
(298,049 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,503 posts)Cha
(298,049 posts)Gone again.
Cha
(298,049 posts)pdxflyboy
(678 posts)Kali
(55,032 posts)it is NOT all animal workers, it is for people around confirmed or suspected infected animals. so far only in poultry and older lactating dairy cows (34 herds in 9 states) - and of course wild birds.
here is the current situation - https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/avian-flu-summary.htm
2 humans infected in 2 years, one from a dairy situation and the other poultry related.
littlemissmartypants
(22,855 posts)I'm pretty sure they're not going to test all of the wild birds either but they can spread it just the same.
It's not possible or entirely helpful to use mass testing so using comprehensive infection control procedures make a lot of sense.
Just like with Covid (and many other things) one can be a carrier, test negative and be a vector for the infection. Testing isn't a panacea.
Kali
(55,032 posts)and I totally agree with them. the recommendations are for actual risk, not alarmist overreacting posts on the internet claiming it is for every worker in contact with animals.
littlemissmartypants
(22,855 posts)Infection control vs. testing. That's it.
Kali
(55,032 posts)Yes testing also needs to be based on practical realities.
Zeitghost
(3,895 posts)Has a flare for the dramatic and get's social media hits from hyperbolic posts.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,159 posts)He found a gravy train in 2020 on Twitter, and now that COVID is endemic he needs something else to scare people for clicks.
NickB79
(19,299 posts)There are only 3-4 guys on-site that actually handle incoming raw milk loads before it's pasteurized though.
I'll be curious to see what my QA manager has to say about this Monday.
BannonsLiver
(16,548 posts)I guess with Covid not moving the social media clout needle anymore Ding has switched to this.
NickB79
(19,299 posts)I'd be shocked if the intake crew had to go back to masks.
Kali
(55,032 posts)they might want to exercise some caution, but otherwise just stay informed. the warning in the OP is over the top.
Bayard
(22,237 posts)We wash the eggs before cooking them, wash our hands afterward. Not real worried. I strip all the bedding out of the coop and re-bed it about every other week.
I am wondering what they process cow udders for? Pet food?