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RandySF

(59,907 posts)
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 10:29 AM Apr 29

Democrats fear chaos of 1968 convention as they prepare to renominate Joe Biden in Chicago

CHICAGO – Anti-war protests. A divided Democratic Party. An unpopular candidate hobbled by a foreign military conflict.

In many ways, 2024 feels like 1968 all over again.

Flashbacks of bloody clashes between police and anti-Vietnam War demonstrators outside the Democratic National Convention in Chicago during that chaotic summer are weighing heavily on the minds of Democrats as they prepare to return to the Windy City in August to formally nominate President Joe Biden for a second term.

Thousands of Americans angry over Biden’s staunch support of Israel in its war with Hamas are planning to protest outside the sports arena where he is to accept the nomination.




https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/2024/04/27/democrats-fear-chaos-1968-as-chicago-convention/73413661007/

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Democrats fear chaos of 1968 convention as they prepare to renominate Joe Biden in Chicago (Original Post) RandySF Apr 29 OP
This article seems to be trying to... Think. Again. Apr 29 #1
wholly agree... after all, it is Arizona CurtEastPoint Apr 29 #2
USA Today published it first. RandySF Apr 29 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Think. Again. Apr 29 #20
And that says it all. lees1975 Apr 29 #25
Yes, at first I assumed it must be a local... Think. Again. Apr 29 #21
Daley is not mayor. That is one thing in our favor. shrike3 Apr 29 #3
How so? Barry Markson Apr 29 #7
Read up on Mayor Daley. His regime was responsible for a lot of what went on. shrike3 Apr 29 #8
That doesn't answer the question. Barry Markson Apr 29 #15
I'm not privy to their plans. I assume they're making some. I am told Gov. Pritzker is getting involved. shrike3 Apr 29 #16
Critical point is that security planning has shifted from the local police to the Secret Service. brooklynite Apr 29 #17
Excellent point. Thanks for making it. shrike3 Apr 29 #18
Anybody remember the riots at the 2004 GOP convention? Fiendish Thingy Apr 29 #5
That's fair, but the press always gives the GQP a pass. Happy Hoosier Apr 29 #6
Very true Just_Vote_Dem Apr 29 #23
Why go back to 1968. 2016 is a good example. In spite of Bernie's endorsement of Hillary, many of JohnSJ Apr 29 #9
I frequently remind disgruntled Bernie Bros (they're still out there) that Hillary won more delegates and more primaries shrike3 Apr 29 #10
As I said Bernie endorsed and voted for Hillary JohnSJ Apr 29 #11
Disgruntled Bernie supporters conveniently ignore that. Even today. shrike3 Apr 29 #12
Post removed Post removed Apr 29 #14
That got Nixon elected. Shooting our selves in the foot demosincebirth Apr 29 #13
Michael Collins David Jackson Michael Loria are the idiots LiberalFighter Apr 29 #19
Wish Hunter S. Thompson was here to cover it. Rafi Apr 29 #22
Far right wing conservative talking points. lees1975 Apr 29 #24
There is no chance of a 1968 repeat ripcord Apr 29 #26

Response to RandySF (Reply #4)

Think. Again.

(8,962 posts)
21. Yes, at first I assumed it must be a local...
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:13 PM
Apr 29

...Chicago paper, but yeah, I can see how an Arizona paper is playing to their audience even though it wouldn't affect them locally.

 

Barry Markson

(280 posts)
7. How so?
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 10:59 AM
Apr 29

How are you expecting Mayor Johnson to handle protesters and counter-protesters skirmishing in Grant Park and spilling into the streets of Chicago?

shrike3

(3,900 posts)
8. Read up on Mayor Daley. His regime was responsible for a lot of what went on.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 11:04 AM
Apr 29

Johnson's not perfect, but he's not Daley.

Mayor Richard J Daley, had refused permits to allow anti-war protestors to march on the convention or sleep in the city parks and had put Chicago police on notice with an infamous “shoot to kill arsonists” order after the April riots which ravaged the city after Dr King’s assassination.

Frank Kusch, author of Battleground Chicago, who interviewed 87 veteran police officers for his book, said: “They knew that they were not to let these things happen again and that they were to come down much harder on protests in the future.

“They felt they had to, and they felt encouraged too, that they had permission to go after demonstrators and be brutal.”

Yhe Walker Report, an official study of the violence in Chicago, said after an 11pm curfew passed on the first night, police “in a state of excited anger” moved in to clear Lincoln Park in a “scene of police ferocity” which spilled on to the streets.

The report – headed by an independent observer from Los Angeles police – concluded that: “Individual policemen, and lots of them, committed violent acts far in excess of the requisite force for crowd dispersal or arrest. To read dispassionately the hundreds of statements describing at firsthand the events of Sunday and Monday nights is to become convinced of the presence of what can only be called a police riot.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2018/aug/19/the-whole-world-is-watching-chicago-police-riot-vietnam-war-regan

 

Barry Markson

(280 posts)
15. That doesn't answer the question.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 12:10 PM
Apr 29

I was 20 years old in '68 and in August traveled to both conventions, Miami Beach and Chicago.
I'm well aware of what Major Daley, as we referred to him as, and his storm troopers did.

The question is what does Brandon Johnson do to avoid the spectacle?

shrike3

(3,900 posts)
16. I'm not privy to their plans. I assume they're making some. I am told Gov. Pritzker is getting involved.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 12:15 PM
Apr 29

Might want to contact the mayor's office and governor's office. If you're well aware of Mayor Daley, then you must know him not being around is a plus.

Here you go. Some of the plans: https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-dnc-security-plan/#textThe20Secret20Service20will20operateand20Ashland20to20the20east

Fiendish Thingy

(15,720 posts)
5. Anybody remember the riots at the 2004 GOP convention?
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 10:55 AM
Apr 29

200,000 protestors descended upon NYC, 1800 arrests.

GWB won re-election in a landslide.

And nobody remembers those protests.

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,820 posts)
23. Very true
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 05:58 PM
Apr 29

I'll never forget the media many times covering every damn Tea Party event, even if there was only a handful of people-meanwhile actual civil rights and other kinds of democratically-themed events, sometimes with hundreds or thousands of people, got a shrug from that same media

JohnSJ

(92,552 posts)
9. Why go back to 1968. 2016 is a good example. In spite of Bernie's endorsement of Hillary, many of
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 11:09 AM
Apr 29

his supporters not only refused to support Hillary, but heckled speakers such as John Lewis and other speakers at the convention.

Cornell West, David Sirota, Nina Turner refused to support the Democratic Nominee.

Will this be a 1968 convention, or a 2016 convention, or 2020 convention?

Biden is the presumptive nominee, who won the vast majority of delegates. If those minority uncommitted delegates believe they can disrupt the convention, what purpose would that achieve?

It would only play into the hands of trump.

shrike3

(3,900 posts)
10. I frequently remind disgruntled Bernie Bros (they're still out there) that Hillary won more delegates and more primaries
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 11:23 AM
Apr 29

I like Bernie. In fact, I voted for him in 2016. But he didn't win the primaries. Hillary did.

Response to JohnSJ (Reply #11)

Rafi

(166 posts)
22. Wish Hunter S. Thompson was here to cover it.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 03:13 PM
Apr 29

His book about the 1968 convention was funny, alarming and great history. It's well worth reading it if you never have.

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