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Columbia listened to the democratic House members to end the protests (Original Post) ripcord Apr 29 OP
Well, that'll certainly help endear Democrats to younger voters al bupp Apr 29 #1
Dems Are Going To WIN. Good On Columbia Doing Cha Apr 29 #13
You've convinced me with your elegantly stated argument al bupp May 3 #32
Dems Are Going to Win.. I'm not trying to "convince" you of Anything. Cha May 3 #33
I'm afraid, though, that you're doing a really bad job of it al bupp May 3 #34
Damn. It's almost like when they issued the ultimatum Climate Crusader Apr 29 #2
What gives you the idea that the protesters were elected? ripcord Apr 29 #3
I think you missed the irony. wnylib Apr 29 #10
Oops ripcord Apr 29 #4
I sorry; what is the evidence that this action came from pressure by House members? brooklynite Apr 29 #5
I would assume that action came from the administration's Mossfern Apr 29 #6
Can't have them uppity protestors angrychair Apr 29 #7
It has nothing to do with that Mossfern Apr 29 #9
It's the blanket condemnation angrychair Apr 29 #14
Silly me Mossfern Apr 29 #15
No...I went to college to learn how to be a upheavaler. LeftInTX Apr 29 #21
I've heard the largest department in most universities is the Upheavaling Department. betsuni May 4 #35
Wow!!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Apr 29 #22
So, question angrychair Apr 29 #23
You do understand that by law the adminstrators are required to keep hate speech off of campus right? ripcord Apr 29 #24
Got nothing more to say angrychair Apr 29 #26
and in addition they are getting that area ready for graduation ceremonies. JohnSJ Apr 29 #29
Democracy is dead angrychair Apr 29 #8
No It Is NOT. Good on Columbia doing the Best thing Cha Apr 29 #11
Yea it is angrychair Apr 29 #16
No It Isn't. Cha Apr 29 #17
Don't know what to say to that angrychair Apr 29 #19
depriving thousands of students and their families and friends of a graduation celebration.is alright with you though? JohnSJ Apr 29 #30
Got nothing more to say angrychair Apr 30 #31
"Stopping protest because you don't agree with them ... ." betsuni May 4 #36
Calm down. yardwork Apr 29 #18
We will have angrychair Apr 29 #20
Exactly.. TY! Cha Apr 29 #27
Right?? Those students should be allowed to EllieBC Apr 29 #25
Got nothing more to say angrychair Apr 29 #28
Good deal. Would have preferred expulsion but it's a start. BannonsLiver Apr 29 #12

al bupp

(2,207 posts)
32. You've convinced me with your elegantly stated argument
Fri May 3, 2024, 10:59 PM
May 3

I now firmly believe that all campus protests should be ended by hundreds of armed police dragging them away tightly bound in zip-ties because they are clearly a massive threat to with all their disruption of commencement preparations and the potential of scaring away donors.

al bupp

(2,207 posts)
34. I'm afraid, though, that you're doing a really bad job of it
Fri May 3, 2024, 11:09 PM
May 3

Because of you I now think that if there's ever another large protest of war in, say SE Asia, or anywhere, for that matter. Well, then the National Guard should be sent out, line up, aim their rifles and open fire on those miserable miscreants. It'll be their fault when we see them lying there on the bloody ground for upsetting the studious calm of campus life!

Climate Crusader

(59 posts)
2. Damn. It's almost like when they issued the ultimatum
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:54 PM
Apr 29

they actually meant it.

This is absolutely going to anger all of the student body who elected the protestors to represent them in this.

Mossfern

(2,619 posts)
6. I would assume that action came from the administration's
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 08:12 PM
Apr 29

responsibility for safety of students, and their ability for them to get the education they're paying for. It's time the administration gets control of the campus again.

angrychair

(8,767 posts)
7. Can't have them uppity protestors
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 08:19 PM
Apr 29

Speaking out. Only the party line is approved.

We are worried about a dictatorship and and losing our rights.

Appears it's already started and people are cheering.

Mossfern

(2,619 posts)
9. It has nothing to do with that
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 08:27 PM
Apr 29

Re-framing the issue that way doesn't hold water.
It is private property and students were intimidated.
The message is not the issue - the behavior is.
1st amendment rights end at private property.
I have the right to kick you out of my house if I don't like what you're saying.

Would you support a vocal group of white students demanding that people of color could not enter their space. Would it be appropriate for those white students to intimidate black students?

Wait.... maybe the message has something to do with it after all.

angrychair

(8,767 posts)
14. It's the blanket condemnation
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 08:55 PM
Apr 29

Protest are always going to have bad actors, chaos agents even people that are there to create trouble with the express intentions of getting a protest shut down with force.
Colleges and universities are supposed to be the epicenter of social change and upheaval.
This is an affront to freedom and democracy and nothing will convince me otherwise.
All I can say that Republicans are watching and this anti-protest rhetoric will come back to haunt all of us when Republicans make their push to further crush democracy.

angrychair

(8,767 posts)
23. So, question
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 10:46 PM
Apr 29

Do you think Kent State protestors should have complied with authorities to avoid that situation?
That was protesting on a college campus.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
24. You do understand that by law the adminstrators are required to keep hate speech off of campus right?
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 11:29 PM
Apr 29

Title VI was what the democratic House members threatened Columbia with.

angrychair

(8,767 posts)
8. Democracy is dead
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 08:21 PM
Apr 29

Crushed by religious extremists and money.

Hope the shoe is never on the other foot. This is an incredibly disturbing development.

angrychair

(8,767 posts)
16. Yea it is
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 08:59 PM
Apr 29

Banning student protest is absolutely a dagger into the heart of democracy.

Stopping protest because you don't agree with them is something Republicans do, not Democrats.
People want "civilized" protest that only last a couple of hours and doesn't inconvenience anybody.
That just isn't how protests work.

angrychair

(8,767 posts)
19. Don't know what to say to that
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 10:32 PM
Apr 29

I didn't see how what I've said is that controversial.

Crushing protests like this is absolutely antidemocratic and antithetical to what we, as a nation, claim is our values.

I appreciate the fact we don't agree and that's ok. That's what makes a democracy stronger.

JohnSJ

(92,595 posts)
30. depriving thousands of students and their families and friends of a graduation celebration.is alright with you though?
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 11:59 PM
Apr 29

Columbia is on private property.

betsuni

(25,878 posts)
36. "Stopping protest because you don't agree with them ... ."
Sat May 4, 2024, 12:21 AM
May 4

How is this about personal agreement or disagreement, how would anyone know that anyway?

yardwork

(61,849 posts)
18. Calm down.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 10:31 PM
Apr 29

Private universities asking students to stop disturbing other students is not the end of the world. The protests are counter-productive, anyway. Let's not pretend they're some kind of heroic effort. It's a bunch of entitled rich kids banging pots and pans and yelling at other students. Very childish.

EllieBC

(3,054 posts)
25. Right?? Those students should be allowed to
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 11:39 PM
Apr 29

hound and harass Jewish students! It’s their freedumb to be hateful!

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