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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNicolle Wallace spurs uproar over dire warning: Trump could force me off air if reelected
MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace made a startling prediction on Monday: should former President Donald Trump be voted back into the Oval Office, she and other journalists could find themselves forced out of their jobs.
Wallace's name quickly became a trend on the social media platform X as Americans on both sides of the aisle digested this disturbing take. The MSNBC host made this remark while discussing the recent White House Correspondents' Dinner and a comment from President Joe Biden.
"[Trump] said he wants to be a dictator on day one," Biden told the nation. "He tells supporters he is their revenge and retribution. When in God's name have you ever heard another president say something like that? And he promised a 'bloodbath' when he loses again. We have to take this seriously."
Biden urged his viewers not to discount Trump's comments as mere campaign trail rhetoric. "Eight years ago we could have written it off as just Trump talk," Biden said. "But no longer. Not after January 6th."
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/eu-probe-meta-over-handling-104004074.html
Diraven
(558 posts)nt
littlemissmartypants
(22,960 posts)Srkdqltr
(6,420 posts)All the people on MSNBC would be in danger. Or more than they are now. Among a lot of others.
flashman13
(695 posts)They try to both sides this campaign into a horse race. The focus is on the race itself and clearly not on the issues. Watchers tune in to watch the race, and in doing so watch the commercials and the MSM makes money.
And they are scared of Trump. They want to make sure they don't offend him. That is why they focus on the race, and how it still tips toward Trump, and never point out what a shitty human being he is. That way, they hope that he will let then continue to sell commercials and make money if he should be elected.
And back to the point, if Trump is elected there won't be a single journalist safe in their job in the MSM. All Trump will have to do is Truth all over Nicole and she will be out the door in minutes. That's how fascism works.
Oh, and that will just be the beginning.
FHRRK
(563 posts)When a Repuke is crushing a Democrat in a race it seems to be endless stories about the Dems being out of touch, too liberal, needing to be taught a lesson, reined in.
A liberal comparision of Joe the Plumber?!
Media walking into a diner in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Boston, etc.?!
Media normalizing something a bit out of the ordinary with a Democratic candidate?!
It may be my bias, but damn, I see nothing close as to how the media covers the parties.
calimary
(81,642 posts)Last edited Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:30 AM - Edit history (1)
I say "Pharaoh" because in the days of ancient Egypt, Pharoahs were considered gods. And treated that way. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out that this is the donald's secret AND long-held wish. Ever since somebody at school or somewhere crossed him in some way when he was a very little kid. Just speculating here, but I am deeply curious about how he got the way he is. What made him aim for there? What made him think he was quite simply entitled to whatever was to be had at the very tip-top peak of Mt. Olympus? Who was it, way back when, who knocked his little nose "out of joint" - and over what?
It HAD to be something. Some occurrence. Some encounter. Some mishap. Some moment in which he was denied control (or it was abruptly jerked away from him. Only reason I say this is because, watching his behavior, this total rank-amateur/not specifically schooled or "degree'd" can't help concluding that something dented him rather deeply, back when (I'm guessing) he was a kid. Much younger. Before he was old enough or tall enough to start bullying and dominating and letting his ego run amok. Somebody challenge him - maybe to a fist-fight and they were much bigger so he knew he'd lose? Did somebody break his heart when he was just starting to think he was The Omnipotent Mr. Casanova-In-Command?
It HAD to be something. I'm WAY curious! Yeah, I'm weird, but I've gotta understand the bedrock motivation and what happened to flip his switch (as it undoubtedly did). I gotta know.
Besides, seems to me the more we know and deeper we understand this bastard, the more decisively (and devastatingly) we can undo him.
Cuz NOTHING lasts forever. Not even you, donald.
ancianita
(36,262 posts)His careful manipulation of negative attention is something that Trump noticed immediately when the two met in 1973. Trump and his father had just been sued for allegedly discriminating against black people in Trumps built-and-managed houses in Brooklyn, and sought out Cohns counsel. Among other things, Cohn advised that Trump should tell them to go to hell. Cohn was hired, and one of his first acts as Trumps new lawyer was to file a $100m countersuit that was quickly dismissed by the court. But it made the papers...
I dont kid myself about Roy. He was no Boy Scout. He once told me that hed spent more than two-thirds of his adult life under indictment on one charge or another. That amazed me, Trump wrote in The Art of the Deal. The unabashed pursuit of power, quick resort to threats, a love of being in the tabloid spotlight all of these are things Trump took from his mentor.
In fact, if youre familiar with Cohns history at all, their friendship starts to seem an even greater influence on Trump than any other.
Today, Cohn might be most remembered as a character in a TV series: Al Pacino played him in HBOs version of Tony Kushners Angels In America. In Kushners vision we meet Cohn only when he is old and ailing, lying about being gay and having Aids. (Despite being known to have many gay lovers, and his diagnosis of Aids being an open secret in the months before his death, Cohn denied it to all but his closest intimates.) As played by Pacino, his bombast is already pathetic, self-deluding. You want to be nice or you want to be effective?! he shouts at an idealistic acolyte. You want to make the law, or be subject to it? Choose!
...As Senator Joseph McCarthys chief counsel, [Cohn] was a kind of stage director of the major events of the red scare: the trial of Ethel and Julius Rosenberg and the McCarthy hearings. Another man would have let himself be an invisible functionary in those proceedings, but not Cohn. He made himself visible. He wanted to be front and center, even when the press turned on McCarthys tirade. He befriended gossip columnists and used the tabloids. Shamelessness was, in fact, Cohns defining trait. And it was a shamelessness that Trump picked up and ran with...
After such a slew of negative attention, most men would have recoiled in shame, gone into hiding, spent less time trying to chat up tabloid columnists and getting themselves further into the spotlight. This was not Roy Cohns way. He and Schine continued to appear at the McCarthy hearings, including the disastrous episode where McCarthy decided to investigate the US army and the press finally turned on him. Cohn ...resigned, but always defended the hearings, once writing an article for Esquire titled, Believe Me, This Is the Truth About the Army-McCarthy Hearings, Honest. This piece was widely acknowledged to stretch the truth; letters of complaint poured in. One called the piece a disgrace; it certainly does little honor for Esquire to publish it. But for Cohn, the article achieved its purpose: to keep arguing that he had behaved mostly honorably, as a man under siege.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/20/roy-cohn-donald-trump-joseph-mccarthy-rosenberg-trial
Break everything -- the presidency, courts, women, media -- because all bad publicity is still publicity.
lastlib
(23,429 posts)Mary Trump told that story (I think it was in her first book, but she has re-told it on TV.)
He was thoroughly humiliated by that, and it seems to have strongly affected his personality; it may be partly responsible for his drive for revenge against enemies.
It makes a lot of sense to me. These days, I can't eat mashed potatoes without thinking about it.
calimary
(81,642 posts)I knew a little bit about Roy Cohn, but not this much. Never really explored it about him.
Not a bit surprised, though, that he and the donald would find each other and link arms. They seem like birds of a feather. ANYTHING for the win. NOTHING is out of bounds. Stop at NOTHING. And dont worry about playing dirty. If it gets you the win, who cares how you got there?
And they stayed together for much of tsf's adult life. I daresay that every day he probably asks himself what Roy would do or say.
calimary
(81,642 posts)That was pretty recently.
I did a search:
NPR, January 7, 2018
President Trump Called For Roy Cohn, But Roy Cohn Was Gone
https://www.npr.org/2018/01/07/576209428/president-trump-called-for-roy-cohn-but-roy-cohn-was-gone
Politico, Sept. 19, 2019
The Final Lesson Donald Trump Never Learned From Roy Cohn
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/19/roy-cohn-donald-trump-documentary-228144/
The Guardian, April 20, 2016
A mentor in shamelessness: the man who taught Trump the power of publicity
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/20/roy-cohn-donald-trump-joseph-mccarthy-rosenberg-trial
NPR, June 17, 2023
Trump has had a lot of lawyers but still longs for his wartime consigliere
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/17/1182758035/donald-trump-lawyer-roy-cohn
That a lot of people are not saying what they are thinking .for whatever that is worth.
Cheezoholic
(2,058 posts)There is no uproar. Fuck that headline and fuck him. What the ass fuck?
NoMoreRepugs
(9,553 posts)they will be bothsiding it like madmen. At least I hope so.
soldierant
(7,005 posts)Of cpurse he'd come for journalists, particularly good ones, immediately.
It isn't really that we don't all know that - it's that we are so spoiled we can't imagine it and therefore don't really comprehend it. I hope we can comprehend it now.
(And I certainly never expected to say, in our current MSM climate, that we are spoiled ... but to a degree we certainly are ,,, by people like Lawrence, Chris Hayes, Rachel, and, yes, Nico)le.)
Cha
(298,310 posts)speak easy
(9,364 posts)Wrong link.
Jack-o-Lantern
(978 posts)There is grave danger ahead
God help us.
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