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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat are typical sentences for felony convictions when the defendant has dementia? Asking for a... well, asking.
I've long been speculating that should Donnie ever get convicted they'd suddenly trot out a doctor swearing that he's so ill a day in prison would kill him. Possibly the same doctor who said he's the healthiest human ever and might live to 200.
So I've always figured house arrest was the best we could hope for.
Now it seems they may not have to fake anything. Anyone know the rules or precedents regarding sentencing for criminals with dementia?
RockRaven
(15,111 posts)Hypothetically, of course.
H2O Man
(73,715 posts)we wait for convictions, and to see if the defendant is out while appealing. His mental health might deteriorate rapidly and significantly now. In his current state, that would seem rather unlikely to be a mitigating factor.
unblock
(52,531 posts)Knowing this Supreme Court, they may well order an immediate halt to the trial the minute deliberations begin, then declare a mistrial on some pretext...
And yeah I know that's not a thing but with these clowns all bets are off....
H2O Man
(73,715 posts)about the USSC is the time they are wasting, that benefits the defendant. At most, there are two that might say he is protected. The other seven won't. They were trying to set rules for future cases -- for example, were the defendant to be elected.
unblock
(52,531 posts)The Supreme Court normally decides cases as narrowly as possible. General rules come usually come in only when there are many cases being decided differently by lower courts.
With only one president ever indicted in a quarter millennial, there's hardly a pressing need for a "rule for the ages".
Normal in any event would be to allow the trial to proceed and deal with an appeal if and when that happens. *especially* given that the delay could well change the case from an ex-president defendant to a sitting president defendant, for which they may want different rules (e.g., prosecution deferred until the end of the new term) or, of course, the criminal defendant could ruin the prosecution in a number of different ways.
But it's not hard to understand. They're corrupt and trying to help Donnie, plain and simple.
Silent Type
(3,069 posts)a former Prez deserving reverence; he in his demented mind, believes he won; and gawd knows whatever BS they can fling.
Buzz cook
(2,475 posts)The odds are against that happening
unblock
(52,531 posts)I mean they'll start with "one does not imprison a god" but they'll work down from there....
But Trump is in charge of his defense and certainly will be in charge at a sentencing hearing.
I just don't see him backing down.
EndlessWire
(6,593 posts)In six to eight weeks, he could be a convicted felon. I don't see tRump stopping anything in order to submit to a psychiatric exam which would preclude a possible victory in November. If he were to win in November, he won't need a diagnosis. So, I don't think this will ever happen.
If it did, it would be after he gets 20 years for his crimes. Then, he'll try, maybe. But, chances are he'll think he can campaign and win from his jail cell. Besides, there are a lot of demented criminals in prisons everywhere. He'll fit right in.
His best bet is to flee to Hungary, but he's too arrogant to do that.
jmowreader
(50,608 posts)The feds have hospital prisons. He will go there.
republianmushroom
(13,927 posts)39 months and counting (includes foot dragging)
AllaN01Bear
(18,910 posts)and see how long he would last. my friend felt that he would goto a minimum security prison at least . but i see house arrest as his ss detail would be an issue . however a while back on here i saw where the ss and other law enforcent agencies were talking to each other about the eventual encarceration of t,,,,. i feel they know something we dont. have a grand day.
haele
(12,707 posts)But typically, those people have been poor or of a minority appearance.
Whether or not TFG will get convicted and incarcerated is actually more of a 50/50 than the average rich white guy, as he's potentially got his celebrity status working against him. The appearance of celebrity influence is socially worse than the appearance of maintaining the status quo.
Especially if the case has little wiggle room.
Haele