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Cyrano

(15,082 posts)
Sat May 4, 2024, 02:55 PM May 4

What if Trump passes on before the election?

It might be due to any natural cause: A heart attack; A stroke; A lightening bolt; Choking on a cheeseburger; -- Hell, the possibilities are endless.

But if any of this happens, the wingnut response is totally predictable:

"HE WAS ASSASSINATED!" And he will become an instant martyr.

Marjory Taylor Greene will shriek that, "They used Jewish space lasers."

Putin will find "secret information" that McDonald's poisoned him.

FOX "news": "His murder by Dems was the only way he could lose.'

The NY Times will waffle: "Either side may have been involved."

So who will then become the Republican presidential nominee?

Donald Trump Jr. will claim he's the natural successor.

Nikki Haley will state she was "The last one standing."

And every Republican in the country will insist that they are "The One."

Seems that TSF's possible end could cause more chaos than his presence.

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What if Trump passes on before the election? (Original Post) Cyrano May 4 OP
I have a suspicious feeling illness is in his near future... FarPoint May 4 #1
Please just let him meet with his demise,... magicarpet May 4 #2
Interesting possibility Vogon_Glory May 4 #5
Somehow we can deal (let's contain our glee out of respect for his former office). NO ARLINGTON BURIAL! dutch777 May 4 #33
Yes Cosmocat May 5 #46
Plant him on Conjuay May 5 #53
Came hear to say this Captain Zero May 5 #88
I would cry NJCher May 5 #56
After I cried NJCher May 5 #57
Exactly MFM008 May 5 #44
Probably won't happen this year Tree Lady May 4 #3
Rachel showed a clip of him 8 years ago NJCher May 5 #59
They will find me drunk and passed out Ocelot II May 4 #4
You and me both NotASurfer May 4 #13
Me too and I rarely drink SallyHemmings May 4 #22
Lol MFM008 May 5 #45
Heh. betsuni May 5 #48
Well if all bdamomma May 5 #54
Yeah right budkin May 4 #6
Posts like the OP's will be posted newdayneeded May 4 #9
So he's 78 NJCher May 5 #61
Why not? Polybius May 5 #66
his father had Alzheimer's NJCher May 5 #68
He certainly could have Alzheimer's, but sleeping in court isn't proof Polybius May 5 #69
so you concede that he could have Alzheimer's NJCher May 5 #73
I keep saying to my wife that evil lives forever while the good die young neverforget May 4 #24
There's a reason for that. NJCher May 5 #62
Mass celebrations in the streets liberalmediaaddict May 4 #7
Not so sure about that. Cyrano May 4 #11
They can blame me CanonRay May 4 #8
Does Trump have EndlessWire May 4 #10
My friends and I will have the happiest of celebrations. niyad May 4 #12
My answer too. FalloutShelter May 4 #17
It will be like NJCher May 5 #63
It would be especially awesome if he took the GOP to hell with him Blue Owl May 4 #14
I can see it now NJCher May 5 #64
The title of this post gave me a stiffy. IjustDontlikeRepugs May 4 #15
I will be down one very good bottle of bubbles..... bahboo May 4 #16
1st thing would be bluestarone May 4 #18
I had omitted to consider the effect upon the ketchup supply chain... GopherGal May 4 #27
The "bottom" will drop Conjuay May 5 #55
In the spirit of ultimate Democratic kindness, please vote BLUE and bite your tongue! Backseat Driver May 4 #19
Dancing in the streets!!! spanone May 4 #20
So who will then become the Republican presidential nominee? DemocraticPatriot May 4 #21
My money is on RFK jr ColinC May 4 #29
Heh! Ok, fair enough... DemocraticPatriot May 4 #31
Putin probably would be responsible. Kid Berwyn May 4 #23
Chaos for them, not for us. marked50 May 4 #25
Don't tease me MOMFUDSKI May 4 #26
How mean ColinC May 4 #28
He can kick off the day after Election Day. Dulcinea May 4 #30
Perfect. leftieNanner May 5 #82
Somebody should set these DU responses to music--they'd make a happy dance tune with lyrics that make you smile! Timeflyer May 4 #32
Obituary of Donald J. Trump MrWowWow May 4 #34
I will celebrate! RainCaster May 4 #35
But only after a decade in prison! LuckyLib May 6 #90
He always finds a way to end up on top people keep helping them out Tribetime May 4 #36
I don't drink... TSExile May 4 #37
One can hope! pandr32 May 4 #38
My concern would be the VP pick. Whoever that turns out to be, may just be worse than alwaysinasnit May 4 #39
You mean after edhopper May 4 #40
"What if Trump passes on before the election?" LudwigPastorius May 5 #41
How close before the election? Silent3 May 5 #42
That depends on when he's passes sakabatou May 5 #43
This article explains it all. Thank you! JoseBalow May 6 #91
It won't matter. So he'll be an embalmed Republican DFW May 5 #47
Won't happen, but if it did everyone would quickly move on to the next freakish Republican thing. betsuni May 5 #49
Would be funny is he was required to be in court during either party's convention Simeon Salus May 5 #50
Stop teasing us with hope. Traildogbob May 5 #51
He lives in a fantasy world inside his head, yet the public humiliation of this trial NoMoreRepugs May 5 #52
I expect the hardcore MAGAts would still vote for him Emrys May 5 #58
What if he just drops out malaise May 5 #60
He's not dropping out Polybius May 5 #67
I can only kacekwl May 5 #65
If Don goes to his reward his heir to the nomination will certainly be a MAGA. Ping Tung May 5 #70
No such luck Hekate May 5 #71
I do not want him to die before the election. Xavier Breath May 5 #72
Best scenario that I can see is if Trump dies a day or two after wnylib May 5 #75
Many of his supporters will deny it and vote for him anyway........ NowsTheTime May 5 #74
We know for a fact that that Trump will pass before the election Bucky May 5 #76
We rejoice. OAITW r.2.0 May 5 #77
IF ... the party's at my house. I won't grave dance on DU - that's a violation of ToS, but it will be a hard resist. marble falls May 5 #78
Party time!!! greatauntoftriplets May 5 #79
it will be a beautiful day jcgoldie May 5 #80
And a dream come true! calimary May 5 #83
They'll just pretend he's still alive Diraven May 5 #81
National week of celebration. Silent Type May 5 #84
I'll tell you what will happen jmowreader May 5 #85
Happy Dance....! Sogo May 5 #86
Oh please!.... sdfernando May 5 #87
I see many posts here about sdfernando May 5 #89

FarPoint

(12,494 posts)
1. I have a suspicious feeling illness is in his near future...
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:01 PM
May 4

Over the summer into the fall.... I still think he will be on the ballot in November..

magicarpet

(14,236 posts)
2. Please just let him meet with his demise,...
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:04 PM
May 4

.... then we can eagerly sort things out once he is gone bye bye.

dutch777

(3,065 posts)
33. Somehow we can deal (let's contain our glee out of respect for his former office). NO ARLINGTON BURIAL!
Sat May 4, 2024, 09:20 PM
May 4

Do all the MAGA heads then become zombies wandering around searching for new red meat tossed from the ramparts of the rich and infamous ?

Cosmocat

(14,600 posts)
46. Yes
Sun May 5, 2024, 04:32 AM
May 5

There are countless completely immoral and hateful people who would throw themselves at the possibility of taking the whip.

MFM008

(19,839 posts)
44. Exactly
Sun May 5, 2024, 04:16 AM
May 5

Kill them and let God sort them out.
... The thing about a martyr is that they're dead... It all works for me.

Tree Lady

(11,549 posts)
3. Probably won't happen this year
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:09 PM
May 4

but he is aging fast. I was watching a video from 2016 and he had more energy, talked crazy still but much clearer. He can barely follow a thought now.

NJCher

(35,858 posts)
59. Rachel showed a clip of him 8 years ago
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:42 AM
May 5

And then a clip of him now. Both were public speaking clips. It was remarkable. He looks like he should be limping around the nursing home, except none would have him.

I think it was Lawrence who observed him from the back and remarked how even though he is 6’2” or 6’3”, he is the shortest guy seated at the court table.From his viewpoint, he looked like a little old man with a shrinking spine.

Let this be a lesson to any similar fool who thinks he can evade accountability. It adds up and slaps you upside the head all at once. Even if he evaded prison, old age has got him.

Most of us will face old age, but many studies show that it is the most enjoyable phase of life, presumably because it is a time where we can do what we want. He did what he wanted all of his life and now he can’t do diddly because he has to sit in a cold court room and hustle to pay lawyers.



Ocelot II

(116,070 posts)
4. They will find me drunk and passed out
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:12 PM
May 4

in my front yard surrounded by champagne bottles. Beyond that I don’t know what will happen.

NotASurfer

(2,157 posts)
13. You and me both
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:33 PM
May 4

Champagne on constant standby for one of two contingencies: either a guilty verdict for one of the felonies, or an obituary I will read with somewhat unseemly pleasure 🥂

NJCher

(35,858 posts)
61. So he's 78
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:47 AM
May 5

You’d have him kicking around until 93?

Not even the most negative thinker would go with that.

NJCher

(35,858 posts)
68. his father had Alzheimer's
Sun May 5, 2024, 01:57 PM
May 5

trump is already showing signs. With dementia, the brain cells die off and this is often how the person dies--there are not enough brain cells to tell them they are hungry, for example, and so they refuse to eat. the following refers to his inability to stay awake in court:

snip

Dr. Gartner believes Trump’s sleep issues stem from dementia-related brain deterioration, suggesting Trump’s inability to control his sleep-wake cycle is a sign of advanced stages.

snip

Polybius

(15,554 posts)
69. He certainly could have Alzheimer's, but sleeping in court isn't proof
Sun May 5, 2024, 02:45 PM
May 5

Court is early and incredibly boring. It would be tiring on most soon-to-be 78 year olds. I fall asleep on the express bus from Manhattan quite often, and I'm Gen X. Even 15 years ago I did lol.

NJCher

(35,858 posts)
73. so you concede that he could have Alzheimer's
Sun May 5, 2024, 08:02 PM
May 5

Have you read articles about the other symptoms he has displayed? We're not looking at just one symptom. There is the word slurring, for example. The absurd reference to Obama as the current president. His many remarks showing that he doesn't comprehend the basics of American history.

Are you aware of the other medical opinions, because this is far from the only one. Have you read those articles?

neverforget

(9,437 posts)
24. I keep saying to my wife that evil lives forever while the good die young
Sat May 4, 2024, 06:18 PM
May 4

I'm going to drink a lot the day he passes on.

liberalmediaaddict

(790 posts)
7. Mass celebrations in the streets
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:20 PM
May 4

Similar to November 7th, 2020 when Biden was declared the winner.

Unfortunately Trump's probably going to live to be 90. He's too damn mean to die. His hatred, ego and a lust for revenge gives him reason to live.

Cyrano

(15,082 posts)
11. Not so sure about that.
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:31 PM
May 4

Any human filled with bile, hatred, and a lust for revenge, is well along the road to self-destruction.

My guess is that most people who live to ninety tend to have a tranquil nature.

Trump is many things, but I doubt if anyone has ever applied the term "tranquil" to him.

EndlessWire

(6,596 posts)
10. Does Trump have
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:30 PM
May 4

that ambulance that is supposed to follow him everywhere? Maybe it'll get a flat. You never know.

niyad

(114,049 posts)
12. My friends and I will have the happiest of celebrations.
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:33 PM
May 4

Then we will start to clean up the mess he leaves behind.

NJCher

(35,858 posts)
63. It will be like
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:52 AM
May 5

Building back Ukraine. That’s how much damage he’s done. His Covid death toll probably supersedes many wars.

NJCher

(35,858 posts)
64. I can see it now
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:56 AM
May 5

Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Graetz, and Lauren Boebert—like a piece of toilet paper stuck to his shoe while he exits the room.

GopherGal

(2,011 posts)
27. I had omitted to consider the effect upon the ketchup supply chain...
Sat May 4, 2024, 09:04 PM
May 4

in my concern for the expected run upon champagne and other sparkling wine supplies.

Probably it would result in some disruptions in the markets for orange foundation and hair shellac, as well as ketchup. But I'd be more personally concerned with the potential champagne shortages.

Backseat Driver

(4,407 posts)
19. In the spirit of ultimate Democratic kindness, please vote BLUE and bite your tongue!
Sat May 4, 2024, 04:26 PM
May 4

IDK, the others (GOP/GQP, etc...already seem quite pleased with their chaos stipends by our global enemies; the future is already quite anxiety-provoking. It's amazing that group so full of hubris can't see that their "masters" won't throw them under the bus given half a chance. SMH

DemocraticPatriot

(4,550 posts)
21. So who will then become the Republican presidential nominee?
Sat May 4, 2024, 04:37 PM
May 4

My bet is that the Trump convention delegates would mostly favor Ron DeSatan if it happened before the convention,
and if Trump died after the convention, the RNC members would also likely choose DeSantis as the replacement nominee.

Neither group are very likely to favor Haley...

DemocraticPatriot

(4,550 posts)
31. Heh! Ok, fair enough...
Sat May 4, 2024, 09:12 PM
May 4

Although some of the base may kind of like him, I don't see Trump delegates or RNC members voting much for him.

Timeflyer

(2,072 posts)
32. Somebody should set these DU responses to music--they'd make a happy dance tune with lyrics that make you smile!
Sat May 4, 2024, 09:19 PM
May 4

MrWowWow

(65 posts)
34. Obituary of Donald J. Trump
Sat May 4, 2024, 10:16 PM
May 4

Convicted career criminal, Russian asset, and reputed mobster, Donald "StinkyDollHands" Trump (P01135809), the Worst President in United States History, surprisingly died of an abrupt guilty conscience and terminal moral bankruptcy on [Date] at the age of [Age]. Trump's normally bloated, morbidly obese, lifeless body, found by his then, male odor wife, Malaria, was slumped over his fabled Gold-plated toilet, and dressed in what appeared to be WWII-era German Lederhosen. His hands were still desperately clutching a first edition, autographed copy of Mein Kampf. . Trump's death truly marked the end of a criminalized, tumultuous and polarizing era/error in American politics.
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Donald J. Trump's Epitaph:
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There was a crooked man, and he walked a crooked mile,
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He found a crooked sixpence against a crooked stile;
.
He wed a pornstar cat that caught a crooked rat,
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And they all lived together in a little crooked shack.
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-Pass it On. The Power of Nonthreatening Positive Thinking Never Ceases to Amaze! Visualize and you will realize. Live the Dream Baby!

😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

Tribetime

(4,744 posts)
36. He always finds a way to end up on top people keep helping them out
Sat May 4, 2024, 10:21 PM
May 4

I just don't see him dying.He's on a mission to kill america

TSExile

(2,596 posts)
37. I don't drink...
Sat May 4, 2024, 10:21 PM
May 4

...but if it happens I might just get completely blotto. Unfortunately, I don't think he's human. I am not unconvinced that TSF is not Satan incarnate. He's too evil to go away. 💔

Silent3

(15,463 posts)
42. How close before the election?
Sun May 5, 2024, 01:20 AM
May 5

If before the Republican convention, it would be up to the Republican convention to suddenly become a real convention, not just a showpiece. God knows who the Republican delegates would eventually chose to replace Trump. It would probably be worse chaos than Republicans have had choosing a Speaker of the House.

If Trump keeled over after being chosen by the Republican convention (as well as if Trump died after the election in November, but before December 17th) that's where the Electoral College would kick in.

What you're really voting for when you vote for President is a slate of electors committed to voting for that person for President in the Electoral College. People who (God knows why!) want Trump to be President, but who will also settle for any Republican at all over Biden, would continue to cast their votes for Trump even if Trump were dead.

Then it would be up to the Electors who had committed themselves to Trump, each individually, to choose someone else to vote for when the Electoral College meets on December 17th. Chances are, again, we'd have another Republicans-in-disarray mess and Republican electors would fail to agree on a single candidate.

That's all a moot point if Biden had won the electoral vote. If Biden hadn't won, and no one, not Biden nor any single Republican, can get a majority of Electoral votes, the election has to be decided by the House... leading to yet another shit show unless, by time the House had to vote, the November elections had given Democrats a majority of state delegations (not necessarily the same as having a majority of Representatives), in which case Biden becomes President.

I've got no idea what happens if a Presidential candidate dies after the Electoral College meets. I'd guess either the elected VP goes on to be President, or there's another situation where the House decides the election. Not sure!

DFW

(54,552 posts)
47. It won't matter. So he'll be an embalmed Republican
Sun May 5, 2024, 04:38 AM
May 5

They'll run his remains as their candidate, and he'll still get 45% of the vote. Why so high? Because he won't be making so many stupid statements in front of the cameras any more.

Simeon Salus

(1,161 posts)
50. Would be funny is he was required to be in court during either party's convention
Sun May 5, 2024, 08:55 AM
May 5

Seeing him in the courtroom, he looks just bad. Posing as beaten. The day after day must be bad for a fellow used to someone else flushing his golden toilet.

The camera schtick might not be working out as well as TSF thinks it is either. SNL should have a great time with that.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,545 posts)
52. He lives in a fantasy world inside his head, yet the public humiliation of this trial
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:07 AM
May 5

has to be affecting him greatly. He’s not a vibrant healthy specimen to start out with, this level of stress is taking a daily toll. His taking the dirtnap relatively soon is not far fetched IMO.

malaise

(269,431 posts)
60. What if he just drops out
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:46 AM
May 5

He knows the writing is on the wall and the bluster no longer works

I maintain that he will not be on their ticket. I don’t care if he croaks

kacekwl

(7,030 posts)
65. I can only
Sun May 5, 2024, 11:00 AM
May 5

hope. Don't care what his cult says. Many in his party will silently rejoice I'm sure. There will be another fascist to replace him but not with the cult like following he has.

Ping Tung

(810 posts)
70. If Don goes to his reward his heir to the nomination will certainly be a MAGA.
Sun May 5, 2024, 03:04 PM
May 5

Maybe a "not as bad" one that could draw some "not as bad" voters.

As it is now, Trump himself is Biden's best aide in getting Biden votes. Biden knows this and has made Trump THE #1 issue followed by abortion rights. A winning combination. Add in Kristi's dog for the icing.

Xavier Breath

(3,698 posts)
72. I do not want him to die before the election.
Sun May 5, 2024, 04:07 PM
May 5

Firstly because I want him to be convicted and serve at least some of his sentence. We've come too far for him to escape justice by slipping out the back door. Besides, the idea of him being behind bars and watching his cult losing their ever loving shit on the news every day would be absolute bliss. Then, after 12-18 months of said ecstasy, he can kick the bucket as far as I'm concerned.

Secondly, it introduces an X factor to the election. We know what Trump is and we know how much he is reviled. The last thing we need is for some younger, actually coherent candidate who might appeal more to moderates to emerge from the shadows. That's just too unpredictable for my liking.

wnylib

(21,828 posts)
75. Best scenario that I can see is if Trump dies a day or two after
Sun May 5, 2024, 10:12 PM
May 5

Biden is declared the winner. No more Trump to file endless nuisance court cases about a rigged election. No Trump to call for a violent overthrow of the results.

MAGA Party leaders will still insist that it was rigged, but might not have the money to pursue it in court. MAGA voters will still create sporadic violence and claim that, not only was the election rigged, but Trump was murdered before he could prove it.

But none of them will have the BS gaslighting skill that Trump perfected over his lifetime. The party will be in as much chaos as when the House couldn't decide on a Speaker.


Bucky

(54,110 posts)
76. We know for a fact that that Trump will pass before the election
Sun May 5, 2024, 10:17 PM
May 5

Hell, he's been "passing" nonstop every day in court for the last 2 weeks!

And the Republicans will nominate whoever Putin tells them to.

marble falls

(57,732 posts)
78. IF ... the party's at my house. I won't grave dance on DU - that's a violation of ToS, but it will be a hard resist.
Sun May 5, 2024, 10:29 PM
May 5

Diraven

(554 posts)
81. They'll just pretend he's still alive
Sun May 5, 2024, 10:40 PM
May 5

Last edited Sun May 5, 2024, 11:14 PM - Edit history (1)

They can easily make an AI that can spit out random all-caps rants mixed with MAGA lies mixed with QAnon conspiracy theories on Truth Social every day. In fact it would probably be more intelligent sounding than Trump does now. Then they'll reject all the debates because "the polls say he's winning by a landslide". The hardest problem will be what to do when he's required to be in court for his criminal trials. But since he's already expected to sleep the whole time they could probably get by with a Weekend at Bernie's situation.

jmowreader

(50,609 posts)
85. I'll tell you what will happen
Sun May 5, 2024, 11:09 PM
May 5

1. The Trump camp will petition the Justice Department to suspend the trials as he is "in the hospital." They will do that. They will choose someone who's just as bad as he is, if not worse, to run as vice-president. I'm thinking MTG.

2. AI-generated campaign videos will be produced.

3. They will hire Vincent d'Onofrio to portray Trump at rallies for the rest of the campaign. Since Mr. d'Onofrio really likes to do roles that require a ton of makeup, he will not mind. Reporters will marvel at how coherent he sounds.

4. They will refuse to participate in debates because "Trump" feels it is beneath him to be on the same stage as Joe Biden.

5. If he wins the election, about a week after that they'll announce that Trump died in his sleep and MTG will become president.

sdfernando

(4,962 posts)
89. I see many posts here about
Sun May 5, 2024, 11:44 PM
May 5

how the good die young and evil lives a long time….. this is a fallacy. I give you as a prime example…

….one named James Earl Carter….. who is now 99 years old and over a year in hospice care.

Good people DO live long and prosper. 🖖

Same as evil. But for different reasons.

I’m glad Jimmy is still with us and it will be a sad dark day when he passes.

The sick fuck???…. not so much…. Couldn’t happen soon enough for me!

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