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If he is jailed, will the secret service have too? (Original Post) question everything May 6 OP
If he is found guilty of a felony the SS should be taken away along with his doc03 May 6 #1
Thanks. Strip him of everything question everything May 6 #6
This is not a Federal Trial. brooklynite May 6 #15
I don't believe there is any provision at all under law for him to lose these benefits, but I favor it Kennah May 7 #32
Either way, I do not care. marble falls May 6 #2
Have too ? Fiendish Thingy May 6 #3
Be in jail with him question everything May 6 #5
The SS has discussed security arrangements with corrections officials. Nt Fiendish Thingy May 6 #14
I'd rather he just go to hell. dem4decades May 6 #4
We never had an ex-president go to jail. My guess Emile May 6 #7
I don't think it's as big a deal... Think. Again. May 6 #8
Does the name "Jeffrey Epstein" ring a bell to you? Ponietz May 6 #16
I don't see the problem. Think. Again. May 6 #17
So glib Ponietz May 6 #19
I am oddly flattered. Think. Again. May 6 #20
And that's why you can't be taken seriously Ponietz May 6 #30
You're not okay with TSF meeting the same fate as Epstein? Wednesdays May 6 #21
The civil unrest and blowback against Democrats would, literally, destroy the country Ponietz May 6 #27
I'm under the impression that epstein... Think. Again. May 6 #31
if you believe Bill Barr that's your impression Ponietz May 7 #37
Or it could be my impression without even knowing what bill barr said about it. Think. Again. May 7 #38
Just build a holding cell in the basement of USSS HQ in DC Kennah May 7 #33
That's it! Think. Again. May 7 #36
I once worked with a work release prisoner that had been in for a very long time. Chainfire May 6 #9
In which case, it's easy money for the SS. Wednesdays May 6 #23
Secret Service agents will be responsible for his safety in jail ripcord May 6 #10
That's okay, just doing their job, sitting outside a jail cell. Think. Again. May 6 #18
IMO he will never actually be put in jail.... anciano May 6 #11
Maybe not house arrest, but not rikers either... getagrip_already May 6 #12
I could certainly live with that outcome. nt Wednesdays May 6 #24
This is the correct answer. old guy May 6 #28
they are going to build or retrofit a special building for him. Mosby May 6 #13
They can do 8 hour shifts just like prison guards do. I don't see what the issue is. nt Quixote1818 May 6 #22
The issue is guns in prison - they aren't allowed Polybius May 6 #25
Holding cell in the basement of the BOP HQ or the USSS HQ? Kennah May 7 #34
I don't give a d..n! madashelltoo May 6 #26
Good grief NanaCat May 6 #29
FNGs would get the assignment Kennah May 7 #35

Kennah

(14,379 posts)
32. I don't believe there is any provision at all under law for him to lose these benefits, but I favor it
Tue May 7, 2024, 01:29 AM
May 7

I believe it was AFTER Timothy McVeigh was convicted that a law was enacted prohibiting someone convicted federally with a sentence of life or death to be refused burial with military honors.

I don't see any reason we should not pursue this.

Think. Again.

(9,037 posts)
8. I don't think it's as big a deal...
Mon May 6, 2024, 05:26 PM
May 6

...as everyone fears.

Jails are pretty good at security.

It's kinda what they do.

Ponietz

(3,093 posts)
16. Does the name "Jeffrey Epstein" ring a bell to you?
Mon May 6, 2024, 07:27 PM
May 6

If so, do you recall what happened to him? Camaras “fail” and guards “fall asleep”.

Ponietz

(3,093 posts)
27. The civil unrest and blowback against Democrats would, literally, destroy the country
Mon May 6, 2024, 09:59 PM
May 6

The punishment MUST be be legally sanctioned and no official should “fall asleep”. Why sacrifice the Bill of Rights for that thing? It must not meet the same fate as Epstein while in custody. No, I’m not okay with murder.. Are you? I’m anti-death penalty, but if a Court ordered its execution, honestly, I would sleep well and love my country all the more.

Think. Again.

(9,037 posts)
31. I'm under the impression that epstein...
Mon May 6, 2024, 10:29 PM
May 6

...choose to exercise his ultimate freedom.

I would think the magats would appreciate that.

Think. Again.

(9,037 posts)
36. That's it!
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:06 AM
May 7

That makes the most sense of any plan I've heard!

I'm pretty sure the SS has a very secure location with some sort of food service for employees already, give him a room and bathroom and call it a day.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
9. I once worked with a work release prisoner that had been in for a very long time.
Mon May 6, 2024, 05:28 PM
May 6

He told me it was not all that bad, that they feed you, clothe you and put a fence around you to keep anyone from messing with you.
Donald can take some comfort it that.

For the Secret Service, duty sitting outside a cell wouldn't be much different than their other duty. The Trumpet would not be in much danger in a solitary confinement cell, unless of course, he self-destructed from not having a Big Mac and a Diet Coke on demand.

anciano

(1,038 posts)
11. IMO he will never actually be put in jail....
Mon May 6, 2024, 05:45 PM
May 6

house arrest, maybe, but never the real thing. It just ain't gonna happen.

getagrip_already

(15,034 posts)
12. Maybe not house arrest, but not rikers either...
Mon May 6, 2024, 06:15 PM
May 6

More like spandou. A prison built for one.

A closed military base or hospital wing. A room with a shower, a cot, desk, maybe a comfy chair.

Lonely. Solitary. Just him and his daemons.

Mosby

(16,438 posts)
13. they are going to build or retrofit a special building for him.
Mon May 6, 2024, 06:20 PM
May 6

The other option is home arrest at mar a lago or something like that.

Polybius

(15,557 posts)
25. The issue is guns in prison - they aren't allowed
Mon May 6, 2024, 09:34 PM
May 6

And if a prisoner puts his hands on Trump, the SS would be in their right to use lethal force. It would be a disaster. He has to go to a special prison.

NanaCat

(1,650 posts)
29. Good grief
Mon May 6, 2024, 10:11 PM
May 6

Hundreds of posts have addressed this.

He would most likely go into a high security wing or prison, where all it takes is a minimal detachment of SS agents to assist in protecting him. These facilities do not have the inmates interacting with the general population, or even each other. They stay in their cells 23 hours, and get out for physical activity an hour per day--with only a guard to oversee them. Their showers are in their cells. They get and eat meals in their cells.

This is an example of what such a facility, or section of a facility, looks like in modern prisons:



That's the 'control area' for a high security wing at ADX Florence, but other prisons have similar facilities. Do you see inmates together or wandering around? Of course not--because they are confined to their cells unless it's time for their time in the exercise pen. So how many agents do you thing would be needed there? My guess: One per shift.

To be on the safe side, the SS could also post agents to oversee the prison perimeter and any interior access points, and that should cover it all. And don't forget that, like prison guards, SS agents would work a shift, then they get to go home. It would mostly be a cushy job. Terminal boredom may be a bigger problem than anything else.

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