its just not on peoples radar screens. A walk through the neighborhood is like walking through a movie set or prison yard these days - security lights, strings of decorative lights (is it always a holiday these days?) Security lights shining out laterally, new street lights, Lit advertisements, electronic menus in restaurants, twenty tvs in every bar, LED displays everywhere, etc.

I remember when the GOP was telling overyone how awful LEDs were, now they're all people would ever consider, they last so much longer and take much less energy. I think the colors were limited at the start, but now the coatings give the same soft light people were used to with incandescent bulbs.

If it’s just a one to one replacement- great. But the LEDs have seemingly given people permission to not worry about lights at all - so they then tend to go hog wild. Throw in the security systems everybody seems to require these days and bye bye savings.

Our avenue had a lighting facelift and they replaced the old sodium lights with four times as many new LEDs. All of which are retro globe style instead of classic cobra head so they waste light sideways and up, lighting up the sky and causing massive light pollution.

Even if they post that they are very concerned

One can tell just how a person feels a out an issue by how they respond to it. If it's just talk, then they are t very concerned.

...we've known this for decades, certainly long enough to have stopped using fossil fuels to avoid this.

To those who think it'll just take some some adjustments and adaption in our daily lives to get through the damage we continue to cause... You're wrong.

I used to have sympathy for people moving to or staying on the coastline - any coastline really, but especially Florida and Louisiana.

The writing on the wall has now become a 24 hour air raid siren with strobe lights.

Don't wait and see. Don't expect the government will be able to help you. Don't become a climate migrant which is basically living like a refugee.

on perpetual growth.

... but I personally think we could support long term continued economic growth with a shift to an an economy based on sustainable consumtion. We just just need to embrace. We should embarking on a massive campaign to build modern, safe nuclear power right now. We should be developing a shift of our entire energy infrastructure to net neutral policies. The tech is there. We just have to embrace it. But entrenched interests are resisting it tooth and nail.

The US could go net zero in a few years and it won't prevent the calamity that is coming

...putting all of our efforts into continual growth on one planet with a definite limit on space, resources, and healing abilities is humanity's greatest mistake.

However, we COULD have transitioned to non-CO2 energy decades ago and probably only suffered a minor blip in the economic growth that will come to a screeching halt very soon whether it's by our choice, or not.

It isn't just fossil fuels, although they are certainly the driver of climate change. There are a whole set of critical resources that we have been squandering for more than 150 years. The Club of Rome laid the basics out in their 1972 report: the limits to growth.

Anyway we've been tracking the CoR's worst case scenario pretty closely, so somewhere around 2040-2050, the entire global economic system suffers a rapid unplanned degrowth event. All the elites who aren't brain dead know what is up ahead. This isn't a mystery, it isn't even complicated, nor is it particularly uncertain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth

A couple of videos with some thoughts.

(Not directed at OP)

It’s the next generation’s issue, not ours. We’ve decided to consume as many resources as we can, put out as much greenhouse gas as we can. Why? Because we’ll be dead when it begins to matter anyways.

No one is going to give a shit. We’re like ants chewing the log over a raging river, but, we’re halfway through. It won’t be us that fall in - we’re just enjoying the ride.

The young people will suffer. Why should we? Why sacrifice our quality of life for people who aren’t us? Do you really want to destroy our way of life? Hurt the corporate bottom line? All for what, so your kids won’t be miserable and live in a dying world? Pfffft.

I’m alive now. Why would I give a shit? It’s me that would have to suffer, not someone else. Me. Me. Me.

Me.



(Extreme Frustrated Sarcasm, if it wasn’t obvious)