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Did you ever think that the 2016 election might have been rigged? (Original Post) raccoon May 14 OP
If you count Russia's help. Kid Berwyn May 14 #1
Not rigged per se but Elessar Zappa May 14 #2
So did the FBI and the Trump organization. Irish_Dem May 14 #4
True, I just meant Elessar Zappa May 14 #6
Agree. Votes weren't flipped. CrispyQ May 14 #9
We don't know that for sure. Irish_Dem May 14 #13
Personally, I thought Comey's was the heaviest thumb on the scale. CrispyQ May 14 #7
I agree, Comey is the most egregious factor. Irish_Dem May 14 #14
If the hush money issue was released on same day as HRC investigation, SupportSanity May 14 #15
Absolutely bucolic_frolic May 14 #3
I'll die mad mountain grammy May 14 #5
Manipulated, yes, rigged, no Fiendish Thingy May 14 #8
No. obnoxiousdrunk May 14 #10
Rigged as in a corrupt election? No Johnny2X2X May 14 #11
I didn't find anything surprising about the 2016 election, sarisataka May 14 #12
Not as in stuffing ballot boxes, but.... Happy Hoosier May 14 #16

Elessar Zappa

(14,193 posts)
2. Not rigged per se but
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:10 AM
May 14

Russia certainly put on a thumb on the scale plus the standard GOP voter suppression tactics.

CrispyQ

(36,668 posts)
9. Agree. Votes weren't flipped.
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:48 AM
May 14

Unlike 2020 where millions & millions of illegal ballots were counted.

They don't even listen to themselves, at how ridiculous & stupid that sounds. Millions & millions of illegal ballots when in the past there have never been more than a handful of voter fraud incidents. But suddenly, when the most vulgar, unpopular president in modern times, who mishandled the biggest crisis in a century that cost hundreds of thousands of Americans their lives loses the election, they look for excuses. I will never look at the ones I know the same.

CrispyQ

(36,668 posts)
7. Personally, I thought Comey's was the heaviest thumb on the scale.
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:32 AM
May 14

When the head of the FBI spoke, it validated all the bad stuff that had been circulating about HRC. I'll always hold him the most responsible for giving us Trump. Then he had the audacity to write that commentary about how Trump eats your soul. Fuck you, James Comey.

Irish_Dem

(49,125 posts)
14. I agree, Comey is the most egregious factor.
Tue May 14, 2024, 10:35 AM
May 14

We know Trump and the GOP are ruthless sociopaths who will commit crimes.

But the FBI is paid by the US taxpayer to support the law and ethical behavior.

What Comey did was election interference which is a crime.

SupportSanity

(267 posts)
15. If the hush money issue was released on same day as HRC investigation,
Tue May 14, 2024, 10:48 AM
May 14

we wouldn't be having this discussion.

bucolic_frolic

(43,729 posts)
3. Absolutely
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:14 AM
May 14

Those rural red counties. What button was he pushing? Were activists motivated by a billionaire's walking around money? Was the religious, business, inter-generational familial, ethnic buttons pushed? Rural areas have the same composition over many generations. Many cousins, extended families, in business forever, very intertwined, same doctors/bankers/lawyers/retailers forever. Did texting push them all to jump?

Has anyone really explained it? Was the vote secure? It remains quite an unplumbed anomaly.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,758 posts)
8. Manipulated, yes, rigged, no
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:48 AM
May 14

Russia and Cambridge Analytica succeeded in manipulating the votes of many poorly educated, low information voters. That, along with some strategic errors in the rust belt gave Trump a path to victory.

Johnny2X2X

(19,420 posts)
11. Rigged as in a corrupt election? No
Tue May 14, 2024, 09:55 AM
May 14

But the media favored Trump and gave him a $Billion in free advertising. And Comey did his bidding too.

Happy Hoosier

(7,527 posts)
16. Not as in stuffing ballot boxes, but....
Tue May 14, 2024, 10:54 AM
May 14

.... An electoral college which makes a Wyomin vote 4 times as powerful as a California vote, and signficant voter suppression laws certainly skewed the results.

The electoral system is skewed to favor rural, white voters.

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