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Botany

(70,786 posts) Tue May 14, 2024, 09:31 PM May 14

I might be wrong and nuttier than a squirrel turd but Trump seems plenty guilty because:

1) paying bribes is illegal

b) paying hush money is illegal

iii) submitting falsified business records in order to hide crimes is illegal

Rather or not the court finds him guilty and if found guilty he spends 1 day in prison
are the real questions but the facts about the trial seem pretty clear to me.

Kiss aka keep it simple stupid. And BTW if Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden or
Barack Obama had done any of this stuff the screams from the right wing would
be deafening. Lock him up.

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I might be wrong and nuttier than a squirrel turd but Trump seems plenty guilty because: (Original Post) Botany May 14 OP

Paying stormy to keep quiet was not in and of itself illegal unblock May 14 #1

The sweet part is that the judge will determine his sentence getagrip_already May 14 #2

I would like to see Trump if he is found guilty and sentenced to prison to be remanded to custody, Botany May 14 #6

No, you're wrong brooklynite May 14 #3

great curiousity has arisen (in certain quarters) on the nature and disposition of squirrel feces stopdiggin May 14 #4

I don't think it is about bribes. It is about illegal applegrove May 14 #5

Paying hush money is not illegal. Groundhawg May 14 #7

Rump would stop traffic to pick up a penny in the street EYESORE 9001 May 15 #8

unblock

(52,747 posts)

1. Paying stormy to keep quiet was not in and of itself illegal

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2024, 09:34 PM

May 14

But yeah, how the media isn't screaming for him to withdraw from the race is just nuts

getagrip_already

(15,233 posts)

2. The sweet part is that the judge will determine his sentence

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2024, 09:38 PM

May 14

The judge he has been insulting for 6 months.

The judge who's daughter he has been attacking.

The judge who's court he has been pushing past the point of contempt.

That judge.

That judge will decide if he sees, and how much jail he sees, if convicted.

Schweet.

Botany

(70,786 posts)

6. I would like to see Trump if he is found guilty and sentenced to prison to be remanded to custody,

Reply to getagrip_already (Reply #2)

Tue May 14, 2024, 09:43 PM

May 14

… led out of the courtroom by officers, after the judge tells his lawyers that Trump can file
his appeal from prison.

brooklynite

(95,390 posts)

3. No, you're wrong

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2024, 09:42 PM

May 14

BRIBERY in a legal sense is payment for an action that's illegal. Paying for silence isn't a crime.

HUSH MONEY is also not a crime.

The crime is making the payments in furtherance of political campaign and not reporting the payments as campaign expenses.

stopdiggin

(11,515 posts)

4. great curiousity has arisen (in certain quarters) on the nature and disposition of squirrel feces

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2024, 09:42 PM

May 14

Last edited Wed May 15, 2024, 01:51 AM - Edit history (1)

could we perhaps have a picture provided for documentation .. ?

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applegrove

(119,242 posts)

5. I don't think it is about bribes. It is about illegal

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2024, 09:43 PM

May 14

campaign donations (Stormy hush money and catch and release by the enquirer) but only because Trump was running for office. IMHO

Groundhawg

(608 posts)

7. Paying hush money is not illegal.

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2024, 10:18 PM

May 14

EYESORE 9001

(26,151 posts)

8. Rump would stop traffic to pick up a penny in the street

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2024, 01:09 AM

May 15

Hasn’t he claimed that people tried to shake him down all the time? Only a scant handful have received a six-figure payout to keep quiet. Why on earth would rump pay off someone making a specious claim? Behind the smoke of hush money lie the flames of ‘yes, it really happened ‘. That constitutes the closest to proof, at least in my mind.

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