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If You Missed Lawrence O'Donnell Tonight... You Really Should See This... REALLY !!! (Original Post) WillyT Dec 2012 OP
Thanks, Willy T. I watched, but it was good to see it again. madfloridian Dec 2012 #1
Me Too... Seems Like He's Had Enough... WillyT Dec 2012 #6
The lobbyist for mass murderers who makes sure they get their tools... freshwest Dec 2012 #66
Wow, ths is a must watch!!!! Logical Dec 2012 #2
Bump, we need people to see this! Logical Dec 2012 #24
I love his rants cilla4progress Dec 2012 #3
Me too! mimi85 Dec 2012 #52
Why do I click on Joe Walsh interviews? smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #55
Joe Walsh and many other GOP scoundrels remind me of this line by Shakespeare: freshwest Dec 2012 #61
LOL! smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #71
Shakespeare wrote the best cilla4progress Dec 2012 #74
He sure did! I've memorized most of the comedies over time. freshwest Dec 2012 #75
Good work, Lawrence ODonnell! & Does LaPierre's "solution" for our schools sound like Red Dawn? patrice Dec 2012 #4
Thanks, just walked in from covering a story nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #5
Lawrence has always been anti gun, and I have always been pro Lawrence. Loudly Dec 2012 #7
That characterization of LaPierre struck me, too. Mc Mike Dec 2012 #22
Yeah that got my attention. Volaris Dec 2012 #39
Thanks for the tip. Saw her seg with Chris Hayes on Boehner and the LaPierre seg from Friday, too. Mc Mike Dec 2012 #73
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #45
"butt buddy" Ted Nugent??? I'm no fan of Ted Nugent, but "but buddy" is homophobic... NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #47
Yep. n/t littlemissmartypants Dec 2012 #48
thank you mr o'donnell spanone Dec 2012 #8
This was a masterful rebuttal to LaPierre's half-baked "remedy"! pacalo Dec 2012 #9
+1! uponit7771 Dec 2012 #10
+1000 Fridays Child Dec 2012 #17
K&R Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #11
Policemen in every school....OK......Paid for by the GUN NUTS! ghost_in_the_machine Dec 2012 #12
Nope - they'll be paid for by laying off more teachers NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #51
Considering how often cops end up brutalizing citizens, sometimes even kids, nowadays, tblue37 Dec 2012 #54
I Watched This Twice And Cheered And Wept Like A Baby HangOnKids Dec 2012 #13
no words hopemountain Dec 2012 #14
Thank you for sharing that. Care Acutely Dec 2012 #15
Epic! Must see TV! Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #16
Great rant malaise Dec 2012 #18
That was amazing! Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #19
A mind "almost as twisted, almost as damaged as the minds of the mass murderers..." Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #20
I am glad he said it... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #26
Don't know. But watching LaPierre I get the sense that he is going to go geckosfeet Dec 2012 #29
Thank you madokie Dec 2012 #21
Boom! hatrack Dec 2012 #23
I did hear that... louis-t Dec 2012 #27
k & r! nt wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #25
Thanks for posting. LaPierre and the NRA aka "desperate cornered rat(s)" geckosfeet Dec 2012 #28
And whoever called the NRA a "protection racket" sure nailed it. calimary Dec 2012 #62
Wow libodem Dec 2012 #30
Dripping with sarcasm and cold fury ailsagirl Dec 2012 #31
K and R...a truly great segment...everyone should see this...keep it..send it on....nt Stuart G Dec 2012 #32
Lawrence ON FIRE, expressing rage that most of us feel and cannot put into words. CarmanK Dec 2012 #33
enough heaven05 Dec 2012 #34
Scum blames everyone but himself! Utopian Leftist Dec 2012 #35
Yep, He was smokin' hot pissed. xxqqqzme Dec 2012 #36
k&r rhett o rick Dec 2012 #37
He gives me a tingle up my thigh... OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 #38
Not only is Wayne a despicable human being, he's also a coward to boot. neverforget Dec 2012 #40
K & R Paper Roses Dec 2012 #41
He out Olbermanned Olberman! HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #42
Does WL forget that well armed secret service were surrounding Reagan & Brady when they were shot? judesedit Dec 2012 #43
LaPierre should be the first registree in the Mental Health Database Doctor_J Dec 2012 #44
LaPierre is a psychopath secondvariety Dec 2012 #46
Thanks O'Donnell - you put it all to words. toby jo Dec 2012 #49
K&R Heathen57 Dec 2012 #50
Way recommended. H2O Man Dec 2012 #53
Lawrence has been very good lately!!!!! Little Star Dec 2012 #56
Made it a point Iwillnevergiveup Dec 2012 #57
Add GHWB to those who found LaPierre and the NRA too extreme Markus Che Dec 2012 #58
Wow!! Carly Dec 2012 #59
The beginning of the end of NRA's stranglehold. Kurovski Dec 2012 #60
Wonderfully Powerful. Thanks for posting. BlueJazz Dec 2012 #63
If that were a spanking zeemike Dec 2012 #64
Evisceration completed. Now all that is left to do is to Marie Marie Dec 2012 #65
Damn...Good. nt flying rabbit Dec 2012 #67
K&R. Wow. Whovian Dec 2012 #68
Wow. applegrove Dec 2012 #69
with an angry KICK defacto7 Dec 2012 #70
K&R SalviaBlue Dec 2012 #72

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
1. Thanks, Willy T. I watched, but it was good to see it again.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:29 AM
Dec 2012

I am really starting to like Lawrence more and more lately.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
66. The lobbyist for mass murderers who makes sure they get their tools...
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:04 AM
Dec 2012
And about the important voices that are not heard:

Money doesn't talk, it swears. ~ Bob Dylan


mimi85

(1,805 posts)
52. Me too!
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:19 PM
Dec 2012

You can tell how sincere Lawrence is. Remember this gem when Joe Walsh (deadbeat Dad) was on for the last time? In fact, you could easily make a thread of Joe losing it on any number of stations.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
55. Why do I click on Joe Walsh interviews?
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:40 PM
Dec 2012

Every time I see the guy speak, I just want to slap the shit out of him.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
61. Joe Walsh and many other GOP scoundrels remind me of this line by Shakespeare:
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:49 PM
Dec 2012
"Methink thou art a general offence, and every man should beat thee. I think thou wast created for men to breathe themselves upon you."

From All's Well That Ends Well. This harsh criticism is doled out on Porolles by Lafeu...


http://www.bachelorsdegree.org/2011/05/22/20-epic-shakespeare-insults-every-drama-geek-should-know/

patrice

(47,992 posts)
4. Good work, Lawrence ODonnell! & Does LaPierre's "solution" for our schools sound like Red Dawn?
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:35 AM
Dec 2012

The NRA has become what they hate.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. Thanks, just walked in from covering a story
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:35 AM
Dec 2012

In my east county...first get warm, it s cold out there. Lower thirties ...

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
7. Lawrence has always been anti gun, and I have always been pro Lawrence.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:36 AM
Dec 2012

I like it when he calls LaPierre a "desperate cornered rat."

Nice flourish

Mc Mike

(9,121 posts)
22. That characterization of LaPierre struck me, too.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:30 AM
Dec 2012

It was also good to hear how the right wing 'warrior' is a Viet War draft dodging repug. Par for the course.

Volaris

(10,307 posts)
39. Yeah that got my attention.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 05:14 PM
Dec 2012

Lawerence isn't a man to use words superfluously; He was not screwing around with that statement. He wants this dumb fuckers head, and after the absolute tone-deaf statements he made at his press conference, I don't blame Lawrence one little bit.

And, for an added bonus, Rachel unpacked another "John Bohener is bad at his job" segment last night If you have not seen it, go find it, it was DEVESTATING.

Mc Mike

(9,121 posts)
73. Thanks for the tip. Saw her seg with Chris Hayes on Boehner and the LaPierre seg from Friday, too.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:47 PM
Dec 2012

Lawrence, Rachel, and Chris are all good. Smart, see through the repug b.s., capably transmit the info.

Response to Mc Mike (Reply #22)

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
47. "butt buddy" Ted Nugent??? I'm no fan of Ted Nugent, but "but buddy" is homophobic...
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:31 PM
Dec 2012

Whether you meant it or not, that term just doesn't advance things one little bit, and it's actually offensive.

...

pacalo

(24,722 posts)
9. This was a masterful rebuttal to LaPierre's half-baked "remedy"!
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:07 AM
Dec 2012

First, there is no way in hell those who support the NRA -- of which Grover Norquist is a board member -- would support a huge tax increase to pay the $6 billion required to put a police officer on every school ground.

Secondly, the police officer at Columbine could not prevent or stop the mass murders from happening there. Also, the bystander in the Arizona parking lot, an experienced gun owner, could not stop the gunman from shooting Gabby Giffords & those who went to see her because he could not get a clean shot, from fear of hitting someone else.

Third, these mass murders happen at other places* other than schools -- like in the Arizona parking lot & at the Colorado movie theater. LaPierre's police officer at every school as "the remedy" is just ridiculous.

*A Timeline of Mass Shootings in the U.S. Since Columbine:

December 11, 2012. On Tuesday, 22-year-old Jacob Tyler Roberts killed 2 people and himself with a stolen rifle in Clackamas Town Center, Oregon. His motive is unknown.

September 27, 2012. Five were shot to death by 36-year-old Andrew Engeldinger at Accent Signage Systems in Minneapolis, MN. Three others were wounded. Engeldinger went on a rampage after losing his job, ultimately killing himself.

August 5, 2012. Six Sikh temple members were killed when 40-year-old US Army veteran Wade Michael Page opened fire in a gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Four others were injured, and Page killed himself.

July 20, 2012. During the midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, CO, 24-year-old James Holmes killed 12 people and wounded 58. Holmes was arrested outside the theater.

May 29, 2012. Ian Stawicki opened fire on Cafe Racer Espresso in Seattle, WA, killing 5 and himself after a citywide manhunt.

April 6, 2012. Jake England, 19, and Alvin Watts, 32, shot 5 black men in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in racially motivated shooting spree. Three died.

April 2, 2012. A former student, 43-year-old One L. Goh killed 7 people at Oikos University, a Korean Christian college in Oakland, CA. The shooting was the sixth-deadliest school massacre in the US and the deadliest attack on a school since the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre.

February 27, 2012. Three students were killed by Thomas “TJ” Lane, another student, in a rampage at Chardon High School in Chardon, OH. Three others were injured.

October 14, 2011. Eight people died in a shooting at Salon Meritage hair salon in Seal Beach, CA. The gunman, 41-year-old Scott Evans Dekraai, killed six women and two men dead, while just one woman survived. It was Orange County’s deadliest mass killing.

September 6, 2011. Eduardo Sencion, 32, entered an IHOP restaurant in Carson City, NV and shot 12 people. Five died, including three National Guard members.

January 8, 2011. Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) was shot in the head when 22-year-old Jared Loughner opened fire on an event she was holding at a Safeway market in Tucson, AZ. Six people died, including Arizona District Court Chief Judge John Roll, one of Giffords’ staffers, and a 9-year-old girl. 19 total were shot. Loughner has been sentenced to seven life terms plus 140 years, without parole.

August 3, 2010. Omar S. Thornton, 34, gunned down Hartford Beer Distributor in Manchester, CT after getting caught stealing beer. Nine were killed, including Thornton, and two were injured.

November 5, 2009. Forty-three people were shot by Army psychiatrist Nidal Malik Hasan at the Fort Hood army base in Texas. Hasan reportedly yelled “Allahu Akbar!” before opening fire, killing 13 and wounding 29 others.

April 3, 2009. Jiverly Wong, 41, opened fire at an immigration center in Binghamton, New York before committing suicide. He killed 13 people and wounded 4.

March 29, 2009. Eight people died in a shooting at the Pinelake Health and Rehab nursing home in Carthage, NC. The gunman, 45-year-old Robert Stewart, was targeting his estranged wife who worked at the home and survived. Stewart was sentenced to life in prison.

February 14, 2008. Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University, killing 6 and wounding 21. The gunman shot and killed himself before police arrived. It was the fifth-deadliest university shooting in US history.

February 7, 2008. Six people died and two were injured in a shooting spree at the City Hall in Kirkwood, Missouri. The gunman, Charles Lee Thornton, opened fire during a public meeting after being denied construction contracts he believed he deserved. Thornton was killed by police.

December 5, 2007. A 19-year-old boy, Robert Hawkins, shot up a department store in the Westroads Mall in Omaha, NE. Hawkins killed 9 people and wounded 4 before killing himself. The semi-automatic rifle he used was stolen from his stepfather’s house.

April 16, 2007. Virginia Tech became the site of the deadliest school shooting in US history when a student, Seung-Hui Choi, gunned down 56 people. Thirty-two people died in the massacre.

February 12, 2007. In Salt Lake City’s Trolley Square Mall, 5 people were shot to death and 4 others were wounded by 18-year-old gunman Sulejman Talović. One of the victims was a 16-year-old boy.

October 2, 2006. An Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster, PA was gunned down by 32-year-old Charles Carl Roberts, Roberts separated the boys from the girls, binding and shooting the girls. 5 young girls died, while 6 were injured. Roberts committed suicide afterward.

March 25, 2006. Seven died and 2 were injured by 28-year-old Kyle Aaron Huff in a shooting spree through Capitol Hill in Seattle, WA. The massacre was the worst killing in Seattle since 1983.

March 21, 2005. Teenager Jeffrey Weise killed his grandfather and his grandfather’s girlfriend before opening fire on Red Lake Senior High School, killing 9 people on campus and injuring 5. Weise killed himself.

March 12, 2005. A Living Church of God meeting was gunned down by 44-year-old church member Terry Michael Ratzmann at a Sheraton hotel in Brookfield, WI. Ratzmann was thought to have had religious motivations, and killed himself after executing the pastor, the pastor’s 16-year-old son, and 7 others. Four were wounded.

July 8, 2003. Doug Williams, a Lockheed Martin employee, shot up his plant in Meridian, MS in a racially-motivated rampage. He shot 14 people, most of them African American, and killed 7 before killing himself.

December 26, 2000. Edgewater Technology employee Michael “Mucko” McDermott shot and killed seven of his coworkers at the office in Wakefield, MA. McDermott claimed he had “traveled back in time and killed Hitler and the last 6 Nazis.” He was sentenced to 7 consecutive life sentences.

September 15, 1999. Larry Gene Ashbrook opened fire on a Christian rock concert and teen prayer rally at Wedgewood Baptist Church in Fort Worth, TX. He killed 7 people and wounded 7 others, almost all teenagers. Ashbrook committed suicide.

July 29, 1999. Mark Orrin Barton, 44, murdered his wife and two children with a hammer before shooting up two Atlanta day trading firms. Barton, a day trader, was believed to be motivated by huge monetary losses. He killed 12 including his family and injured 13 before killing himself.

April 20, 1999. In the deadliest high school shooting in US history, teenagers Eric Harris and Dylan Kiebold shot up Columbine High School in Littleton, CO. They killed 13 people and wounded 21 others. They killed themselves after the massacre.

12. Policemen in every school....OK......Paid for by the GUN NUTS!
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 04:52 AM
Dec 2012

All these extra policemen that the NRA says we should have in each school should be paid for taxing the hell out ammo, gunpowder, reloading equipment. Assault weapons taxed at about a 40% rate each time it is sold. Can't take em away. Break them though taxes.

NewJeffCT

(56,830 posts)
51. Nope - they'll be paid for by laying off more teachers
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:11 PM
Dec 2012

because, everybody know children learn better with more kids per classroom.

tblue37

(65,683 posts)
54. Considering how often cops end up brutalizing citizens, sometimes even kids, nowadays,
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:38 PM
Dec 2012

I am not comfortable with assuming that having a lot of armed police officers patrolling our schools and playgrounds is the answer.

Yes, I realize that many cops do not brutalize citizens, but all too many do, and the "good" cops are part of the problem, since the blue wall protects the bad cops. and none of the "good" cops ever stop the brutalizers or testify against them to get them off the force or to ensure that they get properly punished for their criminal assaults on people who have committed the "crime" of failing to suck up sufficiently to the guy with a badge.


 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
20. A mind "almost as twisted, almost as damaged as the minds of the mass murderers..."
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:52 AM
Dec 2012

What is there left to say?

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
29. Don't know. But watching LaPierre I get the sense that he is going to go
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:38 PM
Dec 2012

postal before his life plays out.

The guy is half baked and out of touch.

hatrack

(59,657 posts)
23. Boom!
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:20 AM
Dec 2012

That was pretty much on the money.

Only point I wish he'd mentioned - the big, bad John Wayne NRA didn't allow any weapons in the room at yesterday's "press conference" and had a security sweep of the venue beforehand.

How . . . . brave.

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
28. Thanks for posting. LaPierre and the NRA aka "desperate cornered rat(s)"
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:35 PM
Dec 2012

Crumbling dust balls in histories trash bin.

CarmanK

(662 posts)
33. Lawrence ON FIRE, expressing rage that most of us feel and cannot put into words.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 04:08 PM
Dec 2012

He was absolutely the voice of reason, justifiably angry at NRA stance on gun control and expressed what many of us feel.

Utopian Leftist

(534 posts)
35. Scum blames everyone but himself!
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 04:27 PM
Dec 2012

It's all about personal responsibility don'chaknow? Until it's one of their own, that is.

Further, the paltry sum that the NRA donated during the last election--I've heard estimates from 3 million to 23 million--is but a drop in the bucket compared to what was spent overall in the 2012 election. WHERE therefore is the NRA getting it's power and influence from? As Lawrence pointed out, an organization of 4 million even gets a microphone in a nation of 300+ million? How does that make sense? The only reason I can think of is because nothing seems to change in this country until the people rise up en masse to demand it.

The big lie of the gun owners is that, if we eliminate guns, the bad guys will still get them and the good guys will be unable to protect themselves. Not completely unreasonable sounding . . . UNTIL ONE LEARNS THE FACTS! All gun crimes go down dramatically in countries where there is tight gun control. The criminals do NOT find them, not if there is a government program to buy them back. IMO removing or even buying back the assault rifles alone is not going to be nearly enough, though it would be a start.

As long as there are 300 million guns in this country there will continue to be innocent blood on our hands. To the gun-owners who consider themselves liberals I would ask one question. How can you live with that blood on your hands? Every gun in this country is an invitation to violence. I thought we were the peacemakers. Disarmament (or whatever small-scale version of it that our corporate uberlords allow us) has to be universal. We don't want the right wing to be the only ones who continue to own guns. But as long as both sides do, as long as we don't make drastic change the carnage will go on.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
36. Yep, He was smokin' hot pissed.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 04:42 PM
Dec 2012

But then so was I. He hit all the points I was in an outrage over.
1. Four million members - that's it?
2. No apology
4. Video games - really!?
5. Music videos - what decade is this again?
6. The media - trite RW excuse.
7. More guns is the answer?

neverforget

(9,439 posts)
40. Not only is Wayne a despicable human being, he's also a coward to boot.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 05:18 PM
Dec 2012

No wonder why he's afraid of everything.

judesedit

(4,458 posts)
43. Does WL forget that well armed secret service were surrounding Reagan & Brady when they were shot?
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 05:41 PM
Dec 2012

Or how many victims were shot with their own weapons? It's all about the money for him. He could care less about one person on the face of this earth. He's scum.

The 2nd Amendment: A "well-regulated" militia for protection of the state...not harrassing and killing innocents.

H2O Man

(73,932 posts)
53. Way recommended.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:24 PM
Dec 2012

Lawrence is the best, in my opinion, on television today. There are times when, while watching his show, he says the very things that I had been thinking earlier in the day. I darned near wonder if I contribute to his show!

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
57. Made it a point
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:49 PM
Dec 2012

to catch the "press conference" which was even more shocking than I thought it would be.

When I watched the clips here, I noticed the plastered down hair on LaPierre. And it reminded me of Hitler.

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