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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf You Missed Lawrence O'Donnell Tonight... You Really Should See This... REALLY !!!
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I am really starting to like Lawrence more and more lately.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Money doesn't talk, it swears. ~ Bob Dylan
Logical
(22,457 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)cilla4progress
(24,894 posts)And Rachel's
mimi85
(1,805 posts)You can tell how sincere Lawrence is. Remember this gem when Joe Walsh (deadbeat Dad) was on for the last time? In fact, you could easily make a thread of Joe losing it on any number of stations.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Every time I see the guy speak, I just want to slap the shit out of him.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)From All's Well That Ends Well. This harsh criticism is doled out on Porolles by Lafeu...
http://www.bachelorsdegree.org/2011/05/22/20-epic-shakespeare-insults-every-drama-geek-should-know/
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Perfect!
cilla4progress
(24,894 posts)INSULTS!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)The NRA has become what they hate.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)In my east county...first get warm, it s cold out there. Lower thirties ...
Loudly
(2,436 posts)I like it when he calls LaPierre a "desperate cornered rat."
Nice flourish
Mc Mike
(9,121 posts)It was also good to hear how the right wing 'warrior' is a Viet War draft dodging repug. Par for the course.
Volaris
(10,307 posts)Lawerence isn't a man to use words superfluously; He was not screwing around with that statement. He wants this dumb fuckers head, and after the absolute tone-deaf statements he made at his press conference, I don't blame Lawrence one little bit.
And, for an added bonus, Rachel unpacked another "John Bohener is bad at his job" segment last night If you have not seen it, go find it, it was DEVESTATING.
Mc Mike
(9,121 posts)Lawrence, Rachel, and Chris are all good. Smart, see through the repug b.s., capably transmit the info.
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NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Whether you meant it or not, that term just doesn't advance things one little bit, and it's actually offensive.
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littlemissmartypants
(23,113 posts)spanone
(136,139 posts)+1,000,000,000,000
pacalo
(24,722 posts)First, there is no way in hell those who support the NRA -- of which Grover Norquist is a board member -- would support a huge tax increase to pay the $6 billion required to put a police officer on every school ground.
Secondly, the police officer at Columbine could not prevent or stop the mass murders from happening there. Also, the bystander in the Arizona parking lot, an experienced gun owner, could not stop the gunman from shooting Gabby Giffords & those who went to see her because he could not get a clean shot, from fear of hitting someone else.
Third, these mass murders happen at other places* other than schools -- like in the Arizona parking lot & at the Colorado movie theater. LaPierre's police officer at every school as "the remedy" is just ridiculous.
*A Timeline of Mass Shootings in the U.S. Since Columbine:
December 11, 2012. On Tuesday, 22-year-old Jacob Tyler Roberts killed 2 people and himself with a stolen rifle in Clackamas Town Center, Oregon. His motive is unknown.
September 27, 2012. Five were shot to death by 36-year-old Andrew Engeldinger at Accent Signage Systems in Minneapolis, MN. Three others were wounded. Engeldinger went on a rampage after losing his job, ultimately killing himself.
August 5, 2012. Six Sikh temple members were killed when 40-year-old US Army veteran Wade Michael Page opened fire in a gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Four others were injured, and Page killed himself.
July 20, 2012. During the midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, CO, 24-year-old James Holmes killed 12 people and wounded 58. Holmes was arrested outside the theater.
May 29, 2012. Ian Stawicki opened fire on Cafe Racer Espresso in Seattle, WA, killing 5 and himself after a citywide manhunt.
April 6, 2012. Jake England, 19, and Alvin Watts, 32, shot 5 black men in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in racially motivated shooting spree. Three died.
April 2, 2012. A former student, 43-year-old One L. Goh killed 7 people at Oikos University, a Korean Christian college in Oakland, CA. The shooting was the sixth-deadliest school massacre in the US and the deadliest attack on a school since the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre.
February 27, 2012. Three students were killed by Thomas TJ Lane, another student, in a rampage at Chardon High School in Chardon, OH. Three others were injured.
October 14, 2011. Eight people died in a shooting at Salon Meritage hair salon in Seal Beach, CA. The gunman, 41-year-old Scott Evans Dekraai, killed six women and two men dead, while just one woman survived. It was Orange Countys deadliest mass killing.
September 6, 2011. Eduardo Sencion, 32, entered an IHOP restaurant in Carson City, NV and shot 12 people. Five died, including three National Guard members.
January 8, 2011. Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) was shot in the head when 22-year-old Jared Loughner opened fire on an event she was holding at a Safeway market in Tucson, AZ. Six people died, including Arizona District Court Chief Judge John Roll, one of Giffords staffers, and a 9-year-old girl. 19 total were shot. Loughner has been sentenced to seven life terms plus 140 years, without parole.
August 3, 2010. Omar S. Thornton, 34, gunned down Hartford Beer Distributor in Manchester, CT after getting caught stealing beer. Nine were killed, including Thornton, and two were injured.
November 5, 2009. Forty-three people were shot by Army psychiatrist Nidal Malik Hasan at the Fort Hood army base in Texas. Hasan reportedly yelled Allahu Akbar! before opening fire, killing 13 and wounding 29 others.
April 3, 2009. Jiverly Wong, 41, opened fire at an immigration center in Binghamton, New York before committing suicide. He killed 13 people and wounded 4.
March 29, 2009. Eight people died in a shooting at the Pinelake Health and Rehab nursing home in Carthage, NC. The gunman, 45-year-old Robert Stewart, was targeting his estranged wife who worked at the home and survived. Stewart was sentenced to life in prison.
February 14, 2008. Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University, killing 6 and wounding 21. The gunman shot and killed himself before police arrived. It was the fifth-deadliest university shooting in US history.
February 7, 2008. Six people died and two were injured in a shooting spree at the City Hall in Kirkwood, Missouri. The gunman, Charles Lee Thornton, opened fire during a public meeting after being denied construction contracts he believed he deserved. Thornton was killed by police.
December 5, 2007. A 19-year-old boy, Robert Hawkins, shot up a department store in the Westroads Mall in Omaha, NE. Hawkins killed 9 people and wounded 4 before killing himself. The semi-automatic rifle he used was stolen from his stepfathers house.
April 16, 2007. Virginia Tech became the site of the deadliest school shooting in US history when a student, Seung-Hui Choi, gunned down 56 people. Thirty-two people died in the massacre.
February 12, 2007. In Salt Lake Citys Trolley Square Mall, 5 people were shot to death and 4 others were wounded by 18-year-old gunman Sulejman Talović. One of the victims was a 16-year-old boy.
October 2, 2006. An Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster, PA was gunned down by 32-year-old Charles Carl Roberts, Roberts separated the boys from the girls, binding and shooting the girls. 5 young girls died, while 6 were injured. Roberts committed suicide afterward.
March 25, 2006. Seven died and 2 were injured by 28-year-old Kyle Aaron Huff in a shooting spree through Capitol Hill in Seattle, WA. The massacre was the worst killing in Seattle since 1983.
March 21, 2005. Teenager Jeffrey Weise killed his grandfather and his grandfathers girlfriend before opening fire on Red Lake Senior High School, killing 9 people on campus and injuring 5. Weise killed himself.
March 12, 2005. A Living Church of God meeting was gunned down by 44-year-old church member Terry Michael Ratzmann at a Sheraton hotel in Brookfield, WI. Ratzmann was thought to have had religious motivations, and killed himself after executing the pastor, the pastors 16-year-old son, and 7 others. Four were wounded.
July 8, 2003. Doug Williams, a Lockheed Martin employee, shot up his plant in Meridian, MS in a racially-motivated rampage. He shot 14 people, most of them African American, and killed 7 before killing himself.
December 26, 2000. Edgewater Technology employee Michael Mucko McDermott shot and killed seven of his coworkers at the office in Wakefield, MA. McDermott claimed he had traveled back in time and killed Hitler and the last 6 Nazis. He was sentenced to 7 consecutive life sentences.
September 15, 1999. Larry Gene Ashbrook opened fire on a Christian rock concert and teen prayer rally at Wedgewood Baptist Church in Fort Worth, TX. He killed 7 people and wounded 7 others, almost all teenagers. Ashbrook committed suicide.
July 29, 1999. Mark Orrin Barton, 44, murdered his wife and two children with a hammer before shooting up two Atlanta day trading firms. Barton, a day trader, was believed to be motivated by huge monetary losses. He killed 12 including his family and injured 13 before killing himself.
April 20, 1999. In the deadliest high school shooting in US history, teenagers Eric Harris and Dylan Kiebold shot up Columbine High School in Littleton, CO. They killed 13 people and wounded 21 others. They killed themselves after the massacre.
uponit7771
(90,407 posts)Fridays Child
(23,998 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)ghost_in_the_machine
(1 post)All these extra policemen that the NRA says we should have in each school should be paid for taxing the hell out ammo, gunpowder, reloading equipment. Assault weapons taxed at about a 40% rate each time it is sold. Can't take em away. Break them though taxes.
NewJeffCT
(56,830 posts)because, everybody know children learn better with more kids per classroom.
tblue37
(65,683 posts)I am not comfortable with assuming that having a lot of armed police officers patrolling our schools and playgrounds is the answer.
Yes, I realize that many cops do not brutalize citizens, but all too many do, and the "good" cops are part of the problem, since the blue wall protects the bad cops. and none of the "good" cops ever stop the brutalizers or testify against them to get them off the force or to ensure that they get properly punished for their criminal assaults on people who have committed the "crime" of failing to suck up sufficiently to the guy with a badge.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)K & R. Thanks Willy.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)other than the despicable la pierre will reap his karma in spades.
Care Acutely
(1,370 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)malaise
(270,078 posts)Rec
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)K & R
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)What is there left to say?
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)because I have been thinking it.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)postal before his life plays out.
The guy is half baked and out of touch.
madokie
(51,076 posts)hatrack
(59,657 posts)That was pretty much on the money.
Only point I wish he'd mentioned - the big, bad John Wayne NRA didn't allow any weapons in the room at yesterday's "press conference" and had a security sweep of the venue beforehand.
How . . . . brave.
louis-t
(23,354 posts)I thought it was Lawrence that mentioned it. Maybe not.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)Crumbling dust balls in histories trash bin.
calimary
(81,845 posts)...
ailsagirl
(22,979 posts)One of his greatest rants.
Stuart G
(38,515 posts)CarmanK
(662 posts)He was absolutely the voice of reason, justifiably angry at NRA stance on gun control and expressed what many of us feel.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)I can't understand waynies logic, at all.
Utopian Leftist
(534 posts)It's all about personal responsibility don'chaknow? Until it's one of their own, that is.
Further, the paltry sum that the NRA donated during the last election--I've heard estimates from 3 million to 23 million--is but a drop in the bucket compared to what was spent overall in the 2012 election. WHERE therefore is the NRA getting it's power and influence from? As Lawrence pointed out, an organization of 4 million even gets a microphone in a nation of 300+ million? How does that make sense? The only reason I can think of is because nothing seems to change in this country until the people rise up en masse to demand it.
The big lie of the gun owners is that, if we eliminate guns, the bad guys will still get them and the good guys will be unable to protect themselves. Not completely unreasonable sounding . . . UNTIL ONE LEARNS THE FACTS! All gun crimes go down dramatically in countries where there is tight gun control. The criminals do NOT find them, not if there is a government program to buy them back. IMO removing or even buying back the assault rifles alone is not going to be nearly enough, though it would be a start.
As long as there are 300 million guns in this country there will continue to be innocent blood on our hands. To the gun-owners who consider themselves liberals I would ask one question. How can you live with that blood on your hands? Every gun in this country is an invitation to violence. I thought we were the peacemakers. Disarmament (or whatever small-scale version of it that our corporate uberlords allow us) has to be universal. We don't want the right wing to be the only ones who continue to own guns. But as long as both sides do, as long as we don't make drastic change the carnage will go on.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)But then so was I. He hit all the points I was in an outrage over.
1. Four million members - that's it?
2. No apology
4. Video games - really!?
5. Music videos - what decade is this again?
6. The media - trite RW excuse.
7. More guns is the answer?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,944 posts)neverforget
(9,439 posts)No wonder why he's afraid of everything.
Paper Roses
(7,483 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Great. Exceedingly sharp edges on his argument diced Wayne into bits.
judesedit
(4,458 posts)Or how many victims were shot with their own weapons? It's all about the money for him. He could care less about one person on the face of this earth. He's scum.
The 2nd Amendment: A "well-regulated" militia for protection of the state...not harrassing and killing innocents.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)secondvariety
(1,245 posts)and the NRA membership are his enablers.
toby jo
(1,269 posts)You can go on another 18 minutes - I can take it.
Lawrence keeps it straight and true.
H2O Man
(73,932 posts)Lawrence is the best, in my opinion, on television today. There are times when, while watching his show, he says the very things that I had been thinking earlier in the day. I darned near wonder if I contribute to his show!
Little Star
(17,055 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)to catch the "press conference" which was even more shocking than I thought it would be.
When I watched the clips here, I noticed the plastered down hair on LaPierre. And it reminded me of Hitler.
Markus Che
(8 posts)[link:http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2012/12/bushs-1995-letter-of-resignation-from-the-nra.html|
I hope this link works. Not very good at posting and linking yet. Good read though.
Very powerful!!
Kurovski
(34,657 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)Wayne has some serious blisters on that ass of his.
K&R
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)clean up the entrails. Thank you Lawrence!
flying rabbit
(4,662 posts)Whovian
(2,866 posts)applegrove
(119,308 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)and a determined REC.