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Galraedia

(5,031 posts)
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 11:45 PM Feb 2012

Ron Paul tells Piers Morgan only ‘honest rape’ merits abortion

In an interview with CNN’s Piers Morgan, Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul was asked whether or not victims of rape should have access to abortion services. He said that while he believes that life begins at the moment of conception, the issue is too complex for him to give an answer that will “satisfy everyone.”

In an interview from Las Vegas on Piers Morgan Tonight, Morgan asked whether as a man with daughters and granddaughters, Rep. Paul (R-TX) thinks that abortion is warranted if a woman has been impregnated by a rapist.

“If it’s an honest rape,” Paul replied, “that individual should go immediately to the emergency room, I would give them a shot of estrogen.” He claimed, however, that if a woman is “seven months pregnant” and says that she was raped, “It’s a little bit of a different story.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/04/ron-paul-tells-piers-morgan-only-honest-rape-merits-abortion/

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Ron Paul tells Piers Morgan only ‘honest rape’ merits abortion (Original Post) Galraedia Feb 2012 OP
Sounds like Paul supports DIShonest rape. nt MrScorpio Feb 2012 #1
Because so many women who are seven months pregnant abelenkpe Feb 2012 #2
They trot out this myth all the time. alphafemale Feb 2012 #8
that happened to my cousin's wife. provis99 Feb 2012 #12
What horrible emotional torture that must be. nobodyspecial Feb 2012 #14
Even in states where there are no legl restrictions on womens health. alphafemale Feb 2012 #26
Happened to me as well abelenkpe Feb 2012 #31
When the right wing trots out the lie that women have late term abortions on a lark... alphafemale Feb 2012 #35
As an OB GYN, Paul knows damn well that this is not the case. CTyankee Feb 2012 #20
You also have those outrageous liars who claim to have been OB nurses alphafemale Feb 2012 #27
He IS an idiot. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2012 #3
Ron Paul is a FredisDead Feb 2012 #4
ron, shut about about subjects about which you know nothing. niyad Feb 2012 #5
it's so hard.... unkachuck Feb 2012 #6
He's saying date rape is A-OK... David__77 Feb 2012 #7
someone explain what "honest rape" means???? Broderick Feb 2012 #9
Is that what Whoopi Goldberg refers to as "rape-rape"? (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #10
WTF??!! An "honest" Rape? What the fuck does that mean?? Ecumenist Feb 2012 #11
What makes me angrier still about this farce Tansy_Gold Feb 2012 #13
Allow me: What fucking asshole! MichiganVote Feb 2012 #15
+1000 nt abelenkpe Feb 2012 #32
If "life begins at conception", Ronny baby, then NO abortions are ever ok. kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #16
I have way more respect for the anti-choicers who are against abortion Nevernose Feb 2012 #18
Yes. Those fundies are not admitting to their real motive treestar Feb 2012 #30
I totally agree, and I wish more people would call them out on it. NYC Liberal Feb 2012 #33
He's an obstetrician, fer chrissake. He knows damn well that medical science says that CTyankee Feb 2012 #22
Fuck Ron Paul. Ohio Dem Feb 2012 #17
Ron Paul: Staying Super-Classy on the Campaign Trail The Genealogist Feb 2012 #19
I hate this man. I will be SO glad when he fades away. nt Liquorice Feb 2012 #21
Sort of like how if there was a "health" exception, women would "cheat" and pretend their health was Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #23
Now that you point it out, Paul does bear a striking resemblance to Gollum. MH1 Feb 2012 #28
For a doc, Paul sounds like a quack. sakabatou Feb 2012 #24
An "honest" rape? Is that anything like a "sincere" beating? MADem Feb 2012 #25
Ron Paul proving his asshole membership everyday SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #29
Ron Paul is a wackadoo Licentiathe8th Feb 2012 #34
 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
8. They trot out this myth all the time.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 12:00 AM
Feb 2012

That women who are 7 months or more pregnant routinely skip down the road and have an abortion.

Seven month abortions are extraordinarily rare. They are performed under dire circumstances where the fetus is already dead or soon will be and there is an intervention to protect the health of the mother.

These procedures are even less rare now, since one of the last doctors willing to perform it was murdered in his own church.

These days a woman with a dead fetus inside her has to wait to go into natural labor and give birth to a corpse.

If her uterus goes septic and she also starts to rot as a result that's her fault for choosing to be born a woman.

 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
12. that happened to my cousin's wife.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 12:22 AM
Feb 2012

She had a dead fetus she had to carry around for three months, because she couldn't get an abortion in Mississippi. She caught an infection from the rotting corpse and nearly died, thanks to the primitive anti-abortion culture in the red states.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
26. Even in states where there are no legl restrictions on womens health.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:43 AM
Feb 2012

If you have friends who are pregnant, advice them to not step in a Catholic hospital.

The focus will not be on saving Her life. She or her spouse/partner will have NO choice in the matter.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
31. Happened to me as well
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 04:35 PM
Feb 2012

But had to carry one baby who didnt make it as long as possible in order to have her twin who was developing well. Almost killed me, heartbreaking too but I'm so thankful for the daughter I have today! I hope your cousins wife was able to have healthy children after such a heartbreaking event.
The whole late term abortion thing is a rotten thing for abortion opponents to trot out. No one ever has one for frivolous reasons. It is always to protect the life of the mother or in cases where the developing baby has no chance of survival. A close friend of mine was pregnant with twin girls at the same time as me. We were both so excited, until things turned bad. The week I found out one of mine wouldn't make it she also discovered that both of hers had no chance to survive. On top of it she had complications caused by Lupus that threatened her life. Her decision to abort was a difficult and painful one. But today she has a healthy baby boy and girl. When the anti-abortion crowd trots out the late term abortion thing it is so painful and cruel making mothers who already went through a devasting experience feel worse.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
35. When the right wing trots out the lie that women have late term abortions on a lark...
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 06:14 PM
Feb 2012

I go nearly blind with rage.

CTyankee

(63,927 posts)
20. As an OB GYN, Paul knows damn well that this is not the case.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 03:38 AM
Feb 2012

He is also old enough to know the horrific maiming and slaughter of women that the outlawing of abortion causes.

I'm glad he made his stupid remark, tho. That'll do wonders for his support among women...I hope we see this guy's retirement from the public spotlight very soon...he can rot in hell for all I care...

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
27. You also have those outrageous liars who claim to have been OB nurses
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:47 AM
Feb 2012

Who claim they were ordered to drown babies born alive in abortions to drown them in buckets.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,836 posts)
3. He IS an idiot.
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 11:49 PM
Feb 2012

I really don't think any woman would expect to have an abortion if she were 7 months pregnant, whether it was because of rape or not.

The 7 month fetus is generally viable.

niyad

(113,990 posts)
5. ron, shut about about subjects about which you know nothing.
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 11:52 PM
Feb 2012

you have demonstrated that you are completely clueless when it comes to rape.

 

unkachuck

(6,295 posts)
6. it's so hard....
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 11:58 PM
Feb 2012

....to tell a dis-honest-rape from a honest-rape....

"It’s a little bit of a different story."....you just can't trust a rape?

Broderick

(4,578 posts)
9. someone explain what "honest rape" means????
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 12:05 AM
Feb 2012

Not to be crude or funny, but WTF.

It's surreal how people fall for this cretin. Because he likes pot? I can't fathom how people overlook his racism to begin with. Jeepers.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
11. WTF??!! An "honest" Rape? What the fuck does that mean??
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 12:18 AM
Feb 2012

An "HONEST" Rape Versus a "DISHONEST" one? Is that when you're raped by a liar..What the fuck? So what if someone, let's say a GIRL is raped by a relative and forced to stay pregnant, like Jayce Lee Dugard, for instance, he wouldn't help her? You fucker!!!

Tansy_Gold

(17,893 posts)
13. What makes me angrier still about this farce
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 12:31 AM
Feb 2012

is that neither the interviewer nor the interviewee ever have to worry about getting pregnant by a rapist. They can take "the moral high ground" with no fear that they will ever find themselves in the position of having to justify acting against their holier than thou moral precepts.

What sanctimonious pieces of shit.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
16. If "life begins at conception", Ronny baby, then NO abortions are ever ok.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 12:58 AM
Feb 2012

You must not have gotten the memo.

Unborn humans are ALWAYS more important than born humans. Once born, however, they cease to be important, particularly if they are brownish and born into poverty.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
18. I have way more respect for the anti-choicers who are against abortion
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 01:33 AM
Feb 2012

...even in cases of rape. They may be crazy as shit, but at least they're logically and intellectually consistent. I've had this argument with fundies more than once: "Wait a sec. I thought abortion was murder? So now murdering babies is sometimes okay?" Heads explode every time.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
30. Yes. Those fundies are not admitting to their real motive
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:48 AM
Feb 2012

Controlling the behavior of women. If it was rape, then that's OK, murder of the fetus is OK. Suddenly it's not the human life aspect of it. So you're right, at least the fundies who say it's God's will to give birth because it's a new life are consistent. The others are not and reveal that what they really seek is giving birth as some sort of punishment (which of course the girl can be relieved of if "not guilty" of having sex).

NYC Liberal

(20,138 posts)
33. I totally agree, and I wish more people would call them out on it.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 04:50 PM
Feb 2012

A fetus/baby conceived from a rape is no different from one conceived from consensual sex. Biologically there is no difference. So why should "murder" be okay then?

CTyankee

(63,927 posts)
22. He's an obstetrician, fer chrissake. He knows damn well that medical science says that
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 03:44 AM
Feb 2012

pregnancy BEGINS with implantation of the fertilized egg, not fertilization. There is an astonishing failure rate on the part of Mother Nature of those eggs even making it to the point of implantation. He has to know that.

What a pandering bastid he is!

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
19. Ron Paul: Staying Super-Classy on the Campaign Trail
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 01:51 AM
Feb 2012

What kind of asshole comment is that? Honest rape? What does it mean? I'm not in on this hateful RW dog whistle/code word.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
23. Sort of like how if there was a "health" exception, women would "cheat" and pretend their health was
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 04:44 AM
Feb 2012

endangered.

Sneaky Women! Snnnnneeeeeaky women! Tricksy! Can't be trusted, no! Can't be trusted with their own bodies, because they're snnneeeeaky! And Tricksy!



Which, I guess, is the whole point.

Licentiathe8th

(4 posts)
34. Ron Paul is a wackadoo
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 05:24 PM
Feb 2012

And his fucking cult is filled with the most annoying, brainwashed, and fanatical supporters ever to support a presidential candidate.

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