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Ron Paul, What Exactly Is An Honest Rape?
by Jessica Pieklo
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I guess I would start by asking Paul to follow-up on just what exactly constitutes an honest rape. What kind of evidence would we need to show a lack of consent? Does a woman need to have signs she resisted? How much resistance counts before a rape goes from being fraudulent to being honest? Can spousal rape ever be honest? What about other forms of familial rape? What exactly is the bright line here?
Assuming we get some clarity from Paul on the parameters of honest rape, Ive got a few logistical questions also. Im assuming part of the investigation into whether or not a rape was honest would include an exam to collect evidence to support or negate the claim a rape kit. We will need to have this evidence processed and processed QUICKLY in order to make sure we get that shot of estrogen in time. In order for that to happen, Im assuming Paul is going to make sure that local law enforcement is fully funded and staffed to process those rape kits. How will this expansion of law enforcement be funded? And what about those women who dont live in close proximity to a hospital or clinic? Do we have law enforcement come to them with doctors?
About that shot of estrogen. What exactly is this shot of estrogen supposed to do? Paul is purportedly an ob/gyn, so he must know a shot of estrogen wont do a thing to prevent fertilization and implantation. So whats that shot for?
Im not sure what is the most dangerous aspect to come from Pauls statements here: that is platform is built on a criminal disdain of women or as a doctor he doesnt know his ear from his elbow
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Boombaby
(139 posts)niyad
(113,966 posts)BlueIris
(29,135 posts)If this person became president, I think he would actually beat out Bush as the. worst. ever. The last president. Scary.
niyad
(113,966 posts)them is that he is, supposedly, a "constitutionalist" and "against the wars"..
BlueIris
(29,135 posts)The wars aren't the only issue. I remain convinced that if he is installed in the office, he will finish this nation.
niyad
(113,966 posts)Initech
(100,150 posts)Including all the neo-Nazi charges against him and he still doesn't care - he wants Paul to win the primaries and debate Obama.
Vanje
(9,766 posts)....and has never been to the rapists house?
(edit for spelling)
Spazito
(50,629 posts)by inserting the reference into other threads about rape hijacks good threads about the crime of rape, imo, and turns the discussion from the abhorrent crime into a discussion about those comments instead.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)a dishonest rape....
per a lot of people and some on du.
Spazito
(50,629 posts)it changes the discussion focus into a debate about another thread and actually hurts the point that has been made wrt the comments in the other thread.
I have seen the reference to the other thread being made in at least one other rape OP and it sidetracked the discussion from the obscene rape issue in the thread to what the poster in the other thread meant or didn't mean.
If someone in this thread were to go 'there' in their opinion of what constitutes "honest rape" then I could readily see the point being raised. So far, I cannot see anyone going 'there' in this thread.
I am sure that dilution of the discussion on the obscene and violent crime of rape is not the intent of anyone who brings the other thread's comments to threads like this one but it seems to affect it that way to some degree.
Ironically, here we are being sidetracked into debating the other thread's comments and how they are or are not pertinent to this thread.
niyad
(113,966 posts)niyad
(113,966 posts)WingDinger
(3,690 posts)niyad
(113,966 posts)Mass
(27,315 posts)90 % of abortions are first trimester abortions.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/04/ron-paul-tells-piers-morgan-only-honest-rape-merits-abortion/
He claimed, however, that if a woman is seven months pregnant and says that she was raped, Its a little bit of a different story.
All these right-wingers use these straw-men arguments to justify their disdain for women. F*ck them. starting by this zealot.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Is that not true?
niyad
(113,966 posts)him on that statement, either.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"honest rape"
...like an "honest" strangulation, an "honest" shooting someone in the head or an "honest" stabbing someone in the chest.
Seriously, could any other candidate for the Presidency say something this disgusting and it not cause an uproar?
Spazito
(50,629 posts)It is a abhorrent, violent crime. I am not at all surprised to read Paul's take on this, he is a misogynist who, I have little doubt, believes women are property and, as such, should not have the right to say no.
I despise him, he is a racist, homophobic, antisemitic, misogynist POS.