Both Romney and Santorum are very weak nominees for the general.

"Part of the reason for Santorum's surge is his own high level of popularity. 64% of voters see him favorably to only 22% with a negative one"

In other words, 64% of voters don't know the 1st thing about Rick Santorum yet, they just know he's "Not Romney".

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"Part of the reason for Santorum's surge is his own high level of popularity. 64% of voters see him favorably to only 22% with a negative one.

I'm pretty damn sure Obama's favorable/unfavorable ratings are much lower than this.

Since there is really good evidence that 2/3 of the electorate are ill-informed boobs, we'd better hope that the Newt Machine starts taking him down.

In the meantime, arm yourselves with this:

http://jillianbarclay.hubpages.com/hub/Rick-Santorum-Is-The-Jesus-Candidate-How-About-The-Lobbyists-Candidate-Or-The-Crook-Candidate

Santorum's Sleazy Side Is Just Below The Surface!

To hear Rick Santorum tell it, he is the 'Jesus' candidate. Poor Jesus! Santorum must be hoping that his actions while in the U.S. Senate will go unnoticed; that voters won't find out or won't care that when he was a Senator, he played a key role in The 'K' Street Project, where he was the point man in 'pay to play' politics that ended up with the imprisonment of Jack Abramoff. As a part of the K Street scheme, Rick Santorum was, by almost all accounts, the Senate liason who met with lobbyists every week and scheduled access to his Senate colleagues in the 'pay to play' scandal. A lesser known fact is that Santorum used those same lobbyists to his financial advantage, taking 'contributions' in exchange for promoting and sponsoring legislation favorable to their corporate interests. Maybe Santorum, ever Jesus-like, thought the 'contributions' were a modern method of tithing.

but Santorum is patently nuts. This will be played out - but hopefully only after he secures the nomination. Even Wall Street and the media doesn't want that kook anywhere near the White House.

I am very nervous.

Given that they are masters of stealing elections, they only have to come as close as they did in 2000 and 2004. And with redistricting, thanks to 'disappointed' (aka idiot or lazy) dems sitting out 2010, the map is worse for us this year.

As much as I despise everything he stands for, the frothy one has poise when he talks and is going to fake some people out if he gets a chance. I'm not convinced that Mittens has this thing sewn up yet. And Santorum is a bat shit insane fundy whackjob who would make this country a theocracy if he had the chance.

Ever since 2000, I no longer root for the 'least electable' republican. It didn't turn out so well that year. Give me the guy who will be the least disastrous to the country if he somehow gets in. Especially now, since they've all embraced 90% the same fanatic right-wing viewpoints.

But I don't think its speaking specifically of the general electorate but his favorables for the wackjobs...I mean GOP. I would be shocked and extremely dishearted if 64% of the general electorate thought of him in a favorable way. I would find that hard to believe if that is what it were saying...Ricky hasn't said anything to endear himself to the general electorate. He is a red meat, social issues christian taliban wackjob and it would be the greatest gift the GOP could give Democrats to have him as their nominee. It would result in the greatest electorial landslide in the history of our country. 300+ would be a given. That cannot be understated...this guy has NO CHANCE AT ALL. As Dems would should strongly support the GOP making Ricky their nominee. Go Rick GO!

Thank goodness!

However, he will alienate alot of moderates and independents with his extreme views. Its a much different game plan if he is the nominee. I think I would prefer Romney. He's predictable, boring and a gaffe machine.

I doubt enough people know enough about Santorum to have numbers that high on either side.

His numbers will soon collapse, too, just like every other candidate before him. I remember Republicans attacking him as he lost his Senate seat and earlier in the campaign as too liberal, God forbid. I'm sure they'll dig stuff up on him.

The establishment would kill for Romney. And in the process, they make him less and less electable.

I misunderstood the apparent meaning of the writer.

They say 64% of voters.

If they meant only Republican voters, then their phrasing is so negligent as to carry practically the opposite meaning from what they intended.

It doesn't look like a basket of apples and oranges.

in the later sentences makes the absence of the modifier appear significant. First they talk about voters in general and then they talk about Republican voters.

Oh, and don't get any santorum on you while you research this stuff. Nasty stuff, that.

If you go to the OP's link and then use the link at the bottom of the article to open the PDF of PPP's news release it states at the bottom "PPP surveyed 656 usual Republican primary voters nationwide on February 9th and 10th." Questions answered....Very happy to know that normal people are not that stupid...just repubs.

I didn't see the comment at the bottom.

If you go to the OP's link and then use the link at the bottom of the article to open the PDF of PPP's news release it states at the bottom "PPP surveyed 656 usual Republican primary voters nationwide on February 9th and 10th." Questions answered....Very happy to know that normal people are not that stupid...just repubs.

nomination - not for President, of course that would be insane and the public will know that's insane come November

when we hoped that the GOP would nominate their weakest candidate, that idiot ideologue Reagan.

By the time of Reagan's successful 1980 bid Reagan had learned how to tone things down. He allowed his advisors to comb every word of his and develop broad based appeal while sounding reasonable, moderate and stateman like. Santorum is a raw and unvarnished right-wing nut. This will become obvious and frankly I don't believe America's power elite wants someone like him anywhere near the White House. They want the appearance of stability. The media will turn on him with a vengeance in time.

I would hate to compare a character like Santorum to a great man like George McGovern - one of the most moral, kind and intelligent persons to ever hold major office in the history of the United States. But what they do have in common is that Santorum like McGovern - Santorum is the candidate of the true believers - true believer - the candidate of the died in the whole grassroots activist. McGovern also did well in Iowa which caused him to be taken more seriously - but still considered a long shot. When the bigger players who were taken more seriously gradually faltered - McGovern came on strong and swept primary after primary after primary to the chagrin of the party establishment. But I do not believe this Santorum phenomena will last. I only hope it will last long enough for him to secure the Republican nomination.

is due to how few people know anything about him. The other clown car occupants will not go quietly into that good night, they will be firing up the shit-flinging machines and opening fire on Santorum.

That is going to be a thing of beauty to behold.

Julie

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I just hope they stay sky-high for Ricky long enough for him to secure the Republican nomination.



Shockwaves of delight!!

Santorum/Bachman 2012!1

that's just being silly! We could NEVER be that lucky.

That would settle my stomach and could even become fun!

His biggest "weakness" is that he is too extreme conservative to win in a general election. But the GOPer primary voters will have none of that.

It was a big enough scandal to bring Jack Abramoff down, it'll leave a mark on Ricky. throw in his fundy-like anti-women views...that may help a bit with the fundy crowd but he loses points for being only "fundy-like" Catholic (which of course is not part of the "real Christian" community).

Of course the majority of us out here, whether believers or not, are aghast at his views. Once these are better known we can all watch little Ricky's numbers swirl the bowl.

I for one am looking forward to it.

Julie

No matter who they nominate. They are all losers.

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not so much because I think he can win the nomination, but because he might do well enough to get the VP nod. As he's the most likely (imo) to tear down the church/state wall should he ever get the chance, I don't want this fucker anywhere near the line of succession.

like in a W.C. Fields movie.

God forbid.

He will collapse like the rest of them, because the GOP establishment has a hard-on for Mitt Romney. I hope this goes on for a long time, though. Each day that goes by, the more unelectable any of these assholes becomes.

but Romney will be the nominee. They will make sure of it. In the end, money will win this clown race.