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David__77

(23,638 posts)
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:53 PM Feb 2012

Isn't it time we backed Bahrain's revolution?

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Three months after the Bahrain Independent Commission of Inquiry report found a systematic policy of abuse, torture and discrimination on the basis of sectarian affiliation, the regime of King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifah has failed to implement any tangible reforms to satisfy the opposition. The government's well-documented brutality, coupled with a sense of hopelessness, has resulted in an escalation of protests and almost total loss of authority over several key areas of the small Gulf kingdom. Townships such as Bani Jamrah (one of the country's fiercest anti-regime hotspots) is completely out of regime control after dark. The key suburb of Sitra, dubbed "capital of the revolution", is also a no-go zone for representatives of the government.

Yet when we examine the diplomatic rhetoric here in the west, there is no consistency. Just this past week, there have been renewed calls from US politicians to arm the Syrian rebels (though dismissed); in Bahrain, however, the US government has consistently and strongly condemned any violent acts against the regime carried out by the protesters on the streets. The double standard, even given the US's record, is staggering.

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In the midst of all this, the traditional opposition groups (also known as "political societies&quot are becoming increasingly irrelevant as support grows for a secretive and highly organied youth movement called the Coalition of 14 February. This coalition has called for the overthrow of the monarchy and the establishment of a representative and democratic system of governance. Its message has resonated much more powerfully with the youths than the traditional political societies, which are more supportive of the regime's promises to reform the existing undemocratic system.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2012/02/regime-bahrain-protesters

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David__77

(23,638 posts)
1. I do not think the US should be "backing revolutions."
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:55 PM
Feb 2012

Not in Bahrain, Egypt, Syria, Libya, Russia, or elsewhere... Regime change should be for the people of a country to decide.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
2. US foreign policy is ridiculous on the face of it.
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:56 PM
Feb 2012

What country supports dictators for decades and then out of the blue suddenly decides that they are imminent threats that need to be overthrown? And how many times has the US done that?

elleng

(131,455 posts)
5. No.
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 08:10 PM
Feb 2012

'His Royal Highness Prince Salman bin Hamad Al Khalifa, Crown Prince and Deputy Supreme Commander, yesterday received Bahrain Independent Commission of Inquiry (BICI) chairman Professor Mahmoud Cherif Bassiouni, back in Bahrain to assess action taken in line with his report's recommendations.

Prof Bassiouni expressed pleasure at visiting the kingdom again, and presented HRH the Crown Prince with a number of visions regarding implementation of BICI recommendations, in line with ongoing evaluation of reform phases.'

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=322941

More:

http://www.bna.bh/portal/en/news/492272

P.S., Professor Bassiouni was a Prof. of mine in law school.

 

stockholmer

(3,751 posts)
6. Human Rights Watch: Obama Sends Bahrain Arms Despite Continuing Repression (using legal loopholes)
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 08:28 PM
Feb 2012
http://www.hrw.org/news/2012/02/08/us-wrong-time-bahrain-arms-deal

The Obama administration’s decision to move forward on a $1 million arms sale to Bahrain sends the wrong signal to a country that is engaged in serious human rights abuses, Human Rights Watch said today.

“Bahrain has made many promises to cease abuses and hold officials accountable, but it hasn’t delivered,” said Maria McFarland, deputy Washington director at Human Rights Watch. “Protesters remain jailed on criminal charges for peacefully speaking out and there has been little accountability for torture and killings – crimes in which the Bahrain Defense Force is implicated.”

In a January 27, 2012 statement, the State Department announced that it intended to go forward with the sale of approximately $1 million of equipment to Bahrain while maintaining “a pause on most security assistance for Bahrain pending further progress on reform.” The State Department asserted that the equipment included spare parts and maintenance of equipment needed for Bahrain’s external defense and support of US Navy Fifth Fleet operations and that it did not include items that could be used against protesters. But the State Department has not made public a full list of the equipment to be sold.


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further background:

An independent commission in Bahrain recently found that torture has been systemic http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFTRE7A03NW20111101 since protests broke out last year. The commission urged reform, but the United Nations has recently said http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/21/us-bahrain-rights-idUSTRE7BK1N620111221 that Bahrain was failing to prosecute human rights abuses http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/opinion/sunday/kristof-repressing-democracy-with-american-arms.html?_r=2&smid=fb-share and was continuing its use of excessive force against civilians.

Meanwhile, the Obama administration has quietly moved forward http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/01/27/obama_administration_selling_new_arms_package_to_bahrain with a new package of arms sales to the regime in Bahrain, after international pressure forced them to delay its planned $53 million arms sale. Using legal loopholes that only require congressional authorization for sales of $1 million or more, the administration split the arms package and moved forward with the new sales without notifying the public.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. Well, maybe if we just stopped backing their dictatorship and btw, why are we sending our
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 09:35 PM
Feb 2012

Police Departments to train alongside their brutal Police Departments?

And maybe if we sent a strongly worded letter or something, to our other oppressive friends, the Saudis and told them to stop sending in troops to Bahrain to back the dictatorship the people themselves might be able to handle their revolution without any intervention.

This is how we know that the pretext of 'humanitarian' assistance being necessary, is such a lie. We intervene only when it is to our benefit. The world knows this so we may as well stop the pretense and at least be honest about it.

Javaman

(62,540 posts)
10. not if we want to keep buying saudi oil...
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 10:16 AM
Feb 2012

The saudi's have been lending armed support to bahrain in the way of F-16's. Those same F-16's were sold to them by the US. The same US that buy's saudi oil.

see how it works?

MineralMan

(146,354 posts)
11. Back it how?
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 10:29 AM
Feb 2012

I think that we should refrain from meddling in Middle East affairs. If we back anything there with just words, then we do nothing. If we back it with promised to intervene, we run the risk of entangling ourselves in what is not our affair.

The United States has a very poor record in the Middle East when it attempts to affect governments there. The same poor record applies to all countries who have attempted to meddle in that region.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
12. We should give them moral support. The scale of deaths (46) is not the same as Syria (7,000+), but
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 11:10 AM
Feb 2012

they deserve our support just as much.

Bahrain Independent Commission of Inquiry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain_Independent_Commission_of_Inquiry

The commission released a 500-page report 23 November 2011, which took 9,000 testimonies, offered an extensive chronology of events, documented 46 deaths, 559 allegations of torture, and more than 4,000 cases of employees dismissed for participating in protests. The report criticized the security forces for many instances when “force and firearms were used in an excessive manner that was, on many occasions, unnecessary, disproportionate, and indiscriminate...

The BICI is described by human rights group Amnesty International as “an impressive line-up of independent international experts”. The BICI is chaired by Professor M. Cherif Bassiouni who has led United Nations investigations into alleged war crimes in Bosnia and Libya. The four other members are Sir Nigel S. Rodley, a former United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture and currently a member of the United Nations Human Rights Committee; Justice Philippe Kirsch, a former judge at the International Criminal Court (ICC); Dr Mahnoush Arsanjani, a former UN legal advisor; and Dr Badria al ‘Awadhi, an expert on international and Sharia law at the Freedom House Foundation in Washington, D.C.

Conclusions and Observations of the Report

The following are the conclusions and observations of the report:

“Both the Government and the opposition have their share of responsibility in allowing events to unfold as they did.”

“The forceful confrontation of demonstrators involving the use of lethal force and resort to a heavy deployment of Public Security Forces led to the death of civilians.”
“If HRH the Crown Prince‘s initiative and proposals...[put forward in March 2011], had been accepted, it could have paved the way for significant constitutional, political and socioeconomic reforms and precluded the ensuing negative consequences.”
“Many detainees were subjected to torture and other forms of physical and psychological abuse while in custody at Al Qurain Prison (BDF). This systematic practice ceased after 10 June, but detainees at other facilities continued to report incidents of mistreatment after that time.”[20](p296,297)
“the lack of accountability of officials within the security system in Bahrain has led to a culture of impunity, whereby security officials have few incentives to avoid mistreatment of prisoners or to take action to prevent mistreatment by other officials.”
“35 people were killed during the unrest, including 5 members of the security forces.”
“Sunnis were targeted by some demonstrators, either because they professed loyalty to the regime or on the basis of their sect. Sunnis were subjected to verbal abuse, physical attacks and attacks on their property as well as harassment... The Sunni community was seen as a target due to the perception that all Sunnis are agents or supporters of the GoB and the ruling family.”
“Some expatriates, particularly South Asian workers, were the targets of attacks during the events of February/March 2011. Pakistanis, in particular, were targeted owing to the membership or suspected membership of some Pakistanis in the BDF and police force... The Commission notes that four expatriates were killed and many were injured by mobs as a result of these attacks.”

If there is a Syrian Independent Commission of Inquiry must admit that I have missed its existence.

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