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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 11:21 PM Feb 2012

In Fresno, two homeless men got 1,363 free ambulance rides in 2011

http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/02/11/2719079/ambulance-is-pricey-taxi-service.html

Two homeless men in Fresno have called for an ambulance an average of nearly twice a day for more than a year, racking up hundreds of thousands of dollars in costs and even more when they get to a hospital.

They are Fresno County's highest-volume ambulance users -- "frequent fliers" as they are called in the business -- and their 1,363 combined trips made up 1.34% of all American Ambulance calls in the county last year.

... Because the men don't pay for the rides, the bulk of the costs is passed on to others in the form of higher insurance rates. Taxpayers pick up part of the tab through Medi-Cal and other government programs.

Some in the industry say the two are abusing the system, using it as a free taxi service. But the men, who are friends, say they're just trying to get to a hospital for treatment of their chronic illnesses.

Read more: http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/02/11/2719079/ambulance-is-pricey-taxi-service.html

Newsjock comment: Many of the reader comments at the link point out that this is a symptom of the broken safety net, despite what I see as an attempt by The Bee to further demonize the homeless. No matter what the cause -- broken insurance, broken mental care, whatever -- it certainly shows how broken things are.
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In Fresno, two homeless men got 1,363 free ambulance rides in 2011 (Original Post) Newsjock Feb 2012 OP
Hmm.... cliffordu Feb 2012 #1
Perhaps they should camp near the hospital Zalatix Feb 2012 #2
So what? They're homeless - isn't that enough? Nt xchrom Feb 2012 #3
that is my response as well. nt Spock_is_Skeptical Feb 2012 #5
The homeless can do no wrong? Joe the Revelator Feb 2012 #7
The whole health care system is really, really screwed up. Quantess Feb 2012 #4
Somebody is laughing all the way to the bank, and it's not these 2 homeless guys. Electric Monk Feb 2012 #6
Sounds like the ambulance service has a ironclad case for refusing to pick them up, LeftyMom Feb 2012 #8
Those two guys are a symptom of greater problems. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #9
Why don't they just keep them at the hospital? FrodosPet Feb 2012 #10
Medi-Cal won't cover that. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #11

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
4. The whole health care system is really, really screwed up.
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 11:58 PM
Feb 2012

I wish there was a way to figuratively tear it all down and create a completely new one from scratch.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
8. Sounds like the ambulance service has a ironclad case for refusing to pick them up,
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:33 AM
Feb 2012

but they'll probably continue to do so until MediCal stops paying the bill.

Why does a homeless guy have a lawyer? And why is his lawyer telling him how to use the ambulance system as a taxi service instead of telling him to knock that shit off before he has a real emergency and they don't come?

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
9. Those two guys are a symptom of greater problems.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:44 AM
Feb 2012

Why does our country have homeless people? Why don't we have medicaid for all?

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
10. Why don't they just keep them at the hospital?
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:48 AM
Feb 2012

Or at the very minimum, provide them with apartments and live-in caregivers?

That would be cheaper, and they can get the intense level of care and attention they need.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
11. Medi-Cal won't cover that.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:52 AM
Feb 2012

Neither seizures nor liver disease require continual inpatient care, and it's not a housing program.

edit: They'd probably be eligible for whatever the local equivalent of Paratransit is, and maybe their social worker could arrange for a bus pass or reimbursement for transportation via those medical transport vans. But they're figured out how to get door to door service on demand, so I doubt they'd be interested.

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