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trackfan

(3,650 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 12:58 AM Feb 2012

Would you rather be "well off", and have a boss, or be "getting by", but with absolutely no boss?

I allow for a large gap between "well off" and "getting by" but obviously "well off" isn't so wealthy that you have no need of a boss, and getting by means having enough to pay for housing and what are generally considered necessities, such as taxes and insurance. I think I would go for "getting by", tough as it is.


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Would you rather be "well off", and have a boss, or be "getting by", but with absolutely no boss? (Original Post) trackfan Feb 2012 OP
'Well off,' with boss. Been there, Done that, elleng Feb 2012 #1
I'm one that has bosses that I don't really hear much from. Sure I have a schedule and know I have brewens Feb 2012 #2
Was the former, now the latter. Happier now. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2012 #3
having worked on my own laruemtt Feb 2012 #4
I think it depends on if you "Love what you do" or "work to live" GobBluth Feb 2012 #5
It depends on the boss bhikkhu Feb 2012 #6
I'd rather be flat broke than ever have a boss again. Ikonoklast Feb 2012 #7
Totally depends on the boss. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #8
totally depends on the boss.... dionysus Feb 2012 #9
Well off, with a boss. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #10
Have been faced with this dilemma recently... JCMach1 Feb 2012 #11
There is ALWAYS a boss. renie408 Feb 2012 #12
Not "Always"...I have created a situation to make $ that doesn't require a boss, clients, products masmdu Feb 2012 #17
I would rather be well off Marrah_G Feb 2012 #13
Amen. renie408 Feb 2012 #14
It depends. Would you rather eat an apple or an orange, if you DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS ROTTEN? saras Feb 2012 #15
All good comments here that make me think hard Populist_Prole Feb 2012 #16
I'd rather be rich and have no boss... LooseWilly Feb 2012 #18
I've done both... Javaman Feb 2012 #19
Well off with a boss. Don't want to run my own business-- TwilightGardener Feb 2012 #20

elleng

(131,427 posts)
1. 'Well off,' with boss. Been there, Done that,
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:00 AM
Feb 2012

became 'supervisor,' of sorts, and enjoyed it very much; got into substance of the work.

brewens

(13,671 posts)
2. I'm one that has bosses that I don't really hear much from. Sure I have a schedule and know I have
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:07 AM
Feb 2012

to do my job, but I don't have anyone on my ass giving me orders.

I drive for a blood center but I'm at remote site. We just have the one bus and one mobile crew there. I show up at the buttcrack of dawn and get everything ready, know where to go, how to set up and we do the blood drive. It can be weeks in between my actually getting any real direction from a supervisor. i stay out of trouble and they leave me alone.

laruemtt

(3,992 posts)
4. having worked on my own
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:14 AM
Feb 2012

for the last 11 years, i don't even think i'm capable of having a boss anymore

GobBluth

(109 posts)
5. I think it depends on if you "Love what you do" or "work to live"
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:15 AM
Feb 2012

My husband works his ass off (too much to go into, but 6 days a week with a "boss", and 2 days a week "self-employed). He HATES his job, yet says over and over how worth it is to know that his family (me, 1 child, his, from a previous marriage, and 3 more together) has everything they need, and we are able to prepare for our senior years. We are not rich, though we make well above the median household income here in FL. My husband's side job is really more of a hobby, no way could he bring in enough for us to live minimally. We hope, one day, that we can live on that side job, but hubby says how much stress it would be to see us all go without.

So as much as he HATES his breadwinning job, he realizes, that for our needs, trying to "get by" just would bring him even more stress than working a job he hates. For him, at least when he comes home, he is coming home to a happy family. He grins most days walking in. No worries about bills, medical, braces, etc. But he is the type to be able to leave job pressures at work. When he is home, HE IS HOME! This man has no blood pressure, I swear. I wouldn't be the same way if the roles were reversed.

This is not a judgement on others who do it differently. Which is why I said it "depends". For other households, doing what you love and just getting by is the better option in the end. It is sad that is comes to that. I wonder how many would do what they love if there was universal healthcare and much more affordable/free higher education for their children? We have other circumstances. I am deaf, and finding it really hard to find a job after 6 years as a stay-at-home-mom. If I didn't worry about finding a job myself, maybe my husband could quit his crappy, but very well paying (we are not complaining!) job.

bhikkhu

(10,726 posts)
6. It depends on the boss
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:24 AM
Feb 2012

...I've left jobs before because the management was a pain. Actually, most of the jobs I've had I left for that reason, but my current one is fine. I've thought about self-employment often enough, but I'm realistic about the stress and headaches involved.

Now it comes down to - I'd rather make a decent wage and have reasonable hours than make more money and have less time. If I were my own boss, it'd be hustling every day to keep things going, constant paperwork, taxes and stuff I don't know how to do - now my boss does that part.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
7. I'd rather be flat broke than ever have a boss again.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:30 AM
Feb 2012

After being self-employed now for a while, I don't think that I could go back to working under anyone else again.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
8. Totally depends on the boss.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:31 AM
Feb 2012

Last boss was a toxic racist scumbag. Not a good guy to work for. If it was any decent normal human boss, that would probably be better.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
10. Well off, with a boss.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:44 AM
Feb 2012

After 4 p.m. on Friday, having a boss goes out the window for me. I give my boss nary a thought on weekends. Always been that way except for the time I spent as a Realtor, which was in actuality a 24/7 kind of job and I was essentially my own boss. I saw no benefit from making money if I didn't have time to spend it.

There is no sense in working hard if you can't enjoy the fruits of your labor. Call me a fruititarian.

JCMach1

(27,591 posts)
11. Have been faced with this dilemma recently...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:50 AM
Feb 2012

and I have chosen to go it on my own.

I cannot work for anyone else any more... I just can't deal with the idiocy that entails.

renie408

(9,854 posts)
12. There is ALWAYS a boss.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:55 AM
Feb 2012

My husband and I are both self employed. I run a small horse farm and he does construction remodeling work. We have clients and they can be as tough as any boss. There is always a boss. No matter what you do, you generally have to get paid by SOMEBODY. And if they are paying you, you have to keep them content with your work.

masmdu

(2,536 posts)
17. Not "Always"...I have created a situation to make $ that doesn't require a boss, clients, products
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 05:10 AM
Feb 2012

or require a regular schedule. I trade futures from home. Steep and expensive learning curve but completely free with regards to work.

renie408

(9,854 posts)
14. Amen.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 02:10 AM
Feb 2012

I was just telling my daughter a little while ago that we were going to make it til the end of the month....and then it starts all over again. I am getting so TIRED of every month being a struggle just to make it to the next month so that we can struggle to make it to the next month. I want a vacation. I want to be able to shop ONCE and not compare prices or stand frozen in a store because I can't decide which thing we need the most...and worry that if I guess wrong, it is going to screw us up. I want a new sofa cause the dog ate ours when we stupidly left him in the house all day. I want to make a frivolous purchase. I want to be able to sleep at night. I want to go to the dentist.

*sigh*

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
15. It depends. Would you rather eat an apple or an orange, if you DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS ROTTEN?
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 02:20 AM
Feb 2012

The difference between a good boss and a bad boss is LARGER than the difference between "well off" and "getting by", by far.

A good boss keeps you busy with what you're best at and deflects irrelevancies before you have to disrupt your productivity for them. A bad boss tortures you, molests you, violates your personal boundaries consistently, and disrupts any human interaction you attempt to have on the job site.

The worst case is working for yourself, having to be the bad boss, and just getting by.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
16. All good comments here that make me think hard
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 04:27 AM
Feb 2012

Though I agree with many that think their are grey areas in the OP's question; and at the risk of hijacking it, I truly believe it's more a matter a matter of doing what you like while "getting by" vs doing what you dislike for more money.

In my formative years, I had this discussion many times with my friends, and tragically ( to me ) all too many chose the latter. In my late teens I had some serious head-butting with my father over the same issue. He was a wokohaulic type that had to be the biggest of big shots in every endeavor he was in. I wanted to make a modest living doing what I liked. We had some serious screaming matches then. He's come to terms since then. In fact, thanks to my decision, I put a human face on a group he always detested: Well paid union ( gasp ) blue-collar employees.

LooseWilly

(4,477 posts)
18. I'd rather be rich and have no boss...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 05:26 AM
Feb 2012

as long as we're talking about fantasies... I figured I'd break your rules.

Punish me... as best you can... boss.

(hehe... though your inclusion of "insurance" as a "necessity" already gives you away as being clueless about "getting by".... I haven't had insurance for over a decade...)

Javaman

(62,540 posts)
19. I've done both...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:36 AM
Feb 2012

I used to work freelance in the film industry.

I had health insurance through the Union.

I moved to Texas to get out of L.A. (not out of the film industry.)

Texas is a "right to work" state. I lost my Union health benefits because non-Union work prevails here.

I got out of the film industry because non-Union work doesn't pay shit.

I took a slave wage job to have health care.

And here I am, stuck.

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