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titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:27 AM Feb 2012

One Message WE Must Own and not the GOP

The GOP is starting the whole bullshit that it is Obama's fault oil prices are rising. I've heard it 3 times this weekend.

We must own and convey the message that this is simply not true. First of all Iran's chest-pounding and Israel's threat of war is a major factor in the rising oil prices. Middle East tension always makes the price go up. If Israel was to strike Iran the price would skyrocket. The President is OPENLY saying that he does not want Israel to go to war with Iran.

Second, the Middle East tension actually doesn't raise the price of oil. The oil speculators (namely Wall Street) does that. See this article on Goldman Sachs. http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/04/13/207881/goldman-sachs-speculation-oil-price-rise/?mobile=nc

Third, IF the President suggested to the Republican Congress to regulate the specualtors theywould scream SOCIALISM.

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One Message WE Must Own and not the GOP (Original Post) titaniumsalute Feb 2012 OP
I heard reported today on CNN randr Feb 2012 #1
Conservation AND an alternate source titaniumsalute Feb 2012 #2
The nuances of rising gas prices are lost on most people.... Avalux Feb 2012 #3
It's time to stop pissing in other peoples sandboxes tech3149 Feb 2012 #4
The real blame is with shrub libtodeath Feb 2012 #5
They were more in July 2008 riverbendviewgal Feb 2012 #6
It's fucking speculation and that is all... WCGreen Feb 2012 #7

randr

(12,418 posts)
1. I heard reported today on CNN
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:33 AM
Feb 2012

that England and France import 1% and 4% respectively of Iranian oil. How can this not be offset by national austerity measures in these countries?
Would we be prepared or willing to attempt conservation measures given a similar threat?

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
2. Conservation AND an alternate source
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:39 AM
Feb 2012

I agree that it is a great time to talk about both conservation and alternate fuel/energy sources.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
3. The nuances of rising gas prices are lost on most people....
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:41 AM
Feb 2012

and the media doesn't help. All people know is that gas prices are skyrocketing because of tensions with Iran; somehow this will turn into a reason to bomb Iran. Obama will get blamed for anything that happens, of course.

Yes Europe gets oil from Iran but we don't. The US gets very little from the ME and I heard the other day that output of US refineries has dropped off; although no explanation was given. It is completely insane how the price of oil gets manipulated and we are forced to suffer the consequences since we're dependent on it.

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
4. It's time to stop pissing in other peoples sandboxes
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:28 PM
Feb 2012

Iran hasn't ever taken aggressive action against another country. We've had this hard on against Iran since t6he 70's because a handful of college student's held hostages for better than a year. Let's look back to 1953, didn't we take out the democratically elected leader of their country? It's time to start treating the rest of the world as equals and show some level of humility.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
5. The real blame is with shrub
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:58 PM
Feb 2012

he let the oil companies have there way with pricing for a decade on top of creating an unstable condition in the mid east.
Call Iran that had been peaceful part of an axis of evil and then invade its neighbor.
What did he think would happen except try to defend themselfs.

riverbendviewgal

(4,254 posts)
6. They were more in July 2008
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:54 PM
Feb 2012

$4.04 then.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/87719210@N00/2636631066/

GASOLINE PRICES July 2008

It took a while but just yesterday we surged above $4/gallon here in the sandhills region of North Carolina (unfortunately). It actually went up by 8 cents at once. This is really getting brutal. Can you imagine if we take a major hurricane this year in the Gulf?

Meanwhile our politicians in DC do NOTHING about it! We need to drill here and drill now! Hopefully we will do so soon.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
7. It's fucking speculation and that is all...
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:00 PM
Feb 2012

they use the threat of war in Iran and they gin up the price....

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