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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYou wanna talk about voter fraud? I gotcher voter fraud right here.
110,000 cases of it. In a state where right at 2,000,000 votes were cast. That's about 5.5% of the votes being subject to some level of fraud.
Here's the story: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/gop-aide-sentenced-md-robocall-scheme-15691016#.T0bx3Mx5X3N
Basically, an aid to repubican candidate Robert Ehrlich commissioned an election day robo call to black households telling them the Democrats had already won and their vote wasn't needed.
That's voter suppression. Or an incitement to waste one's vote on a vanity or message candidate.
NAACP head Ben Jealous was just on the colortini telling us that last year there were fewer than 20 cases of actual human voters committing actual voter fraud.
So . . . . right wing asshats . . . . you wanna talk vote fraud? Have at it. Let's talk about that. Bring on your documented stories.
. . . . . fuckwads . . . .
saras
(6,670 posts)dickthegrouch
(3,191 posts)"The judge also gave Paul Schurick a one-year suspended jail sentence and ordered him to serve 500 hours of community service in Prince George's County and Baltimore city, where the calls were directed, over four years of his probation. A fine was not imposed."
He should have been forbidden to vote, work or volunteer on anything to do with an election for life.
He should have been prohibited from telling any lie for life or that one year suspended sentence should kick in.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)From the linked article: "Judge Lawrence Fletcher-Hill called the scheme an offense that strikes at the heart of the nation's most important values."
Got that part right, Your Honor.
Of course, if this Republican hoodlum, after approving a voter suppression scheme affecting more than 100,000 people (mainly blacks), had then sold someone a joint -- hoo boy, then he would've really been in trouble.
Jack Sprat
(2,500 posts)That will really serve as a deterrant. He's probably revving up for some new robocalls in 2012.
Fuzz
(8,827 posts)I wonder if they will let him watch tv.
progress2k12nbynd
(221 posts)"black households."
Is there a race identifier next to my phone # I'm not aware of?
Stinky The Clown
(67,847 posts)They can contact only left handed, club footed, second children with right cheek moles.
AAs are much easier. Just call into a certain zip code. Demographics are a very highly developed science.
progress2k12nbynd
(221 posts)I live in that neighborhood. I know all you're doing is citing the article so I'm not accusing you of anything but I just hate the stereotype-driven thinking that's being used there. That's the kind of thinking the repukes were using to in their minds justify not rebuilding the lower 9th after Katrina.
Stinky The Clown
(67,847 posts)They can, indeed, know that the person who lives on the second floor of the multifamily house at 579 Any Street is AA. But that knowledge is expensive on a per-address basis.
It is good enough for most marketers to get no more granular than zip code demographics. If they know a given zip code to be a given percentage of a particular trait, they decide what level of "hit" they want and call or mail into zip codes that meet that criteria.
So in the second case, they don't know about you specifically. On the other hand, they *could* know about you if they wish to buy a more granular data set.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)It's understanding what is going on around you in the 21st century. Do you have a credit card? Use the internet? Have a discount card at your grocer? Pay Taxes? Have a phone? Electricity? Water? Have a bank account? Ever bought anything off the internet? Have you filled out job applications? Loan forms? Rental agreements? Do you fly? Drive? Walk down the street?
However much you think they are watching you, you aren't even close. The Patriot Act has unleashed the beast. And not just for the government, for corporations as well.
You ever read those "end user agreements"? You are giving up everything when you agree just to use some companies software.
It's not paranoia if they are really watching you.
former9thward
(32,165 posts)They will give you lists of voters which has their age, sex, race, address, phone number, email, what party primary they vote in, how often they vote, etc.
salin
(48,955 posts)the position that oversees elections was sentenced to a year of home detention for voter fraud (his) ... The republican was elected while under scrutiny for voter fraud. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1002&pid=344905 Apparently the GOP voters who elected him aren't really so concerned about vote fraud - except to agree with a Voter ID law (which wouldn't prevent Wilson's type of fraud.)
WhoIsNumberNone
(7,875 posts)His campaign workers were out on the streets hading out $20's to homeless people if they would go and vote. Now, of course they didn't tell them who to vote for, but they did tell them whose campaign was being so generous...
This was reported on the local evening news the night of the election and never spoken of again.
On a related note, here in DMV we have a local morning radio show who used to shill quite shamelessly for Ehrlich because he would always have them in his Governor's VIP suite for Ravens games and would show them a good time at Stately Ehrlich Manner on weekends. Again- I'm sure that wasn't the explicit arrangement, but....
spanone
(135,950 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 24, 2012, 08:37 PM - Edit history (1)
they only talk about fixing voter fraud when it appears that too many of a given minority are voting for the democrats.
gerrymandering. voter i.d. laws.
they know exactly what they're doing.