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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs this the most bizarre election cycle ever?
It's just I have never seen so much insanity and crazed statements daily like I have this time around.
The whole thing makes Kerry vs Bush and Dukakis in a tank seem like civil discourse.
I scroll thru the links posted here or just about any news site and I end up shaking my head repeatedly.
I'm not whining, I'm just absolutely amazed at the level of craziness and we've still got a lot of time till November yet.
It can't get worse...can it?
CAPHAVOC
(1,138 posts)Two parties promoting a failed economic system. Who knows what wonders we will behold. Example Greece. This is the Twilite Zone.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)had a black person as President before.
The hatred is sickening.
liberal N proud
(60,352 posts)Their bigotry.
Kurmudgeon
(1,751 posts)If Obama wasn't doing as well as he is, I would not be surprised to have seen Jeb or another oil corp-mililtary complex candidate throw their hat in the ring.
Still, even with that, I'm waiting to the next deranged statement or insane comparison to come up next.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)of weird election cycles.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)I've been through too many elections in my many years on this rock and each one is more polarized than the previous one. A lot can be attributed to the radicalization of the rushpublican party over the past 30 years...and especially with the rise of hate radio and faux noise in the past 15 years. They created their own bubble...a place where day is night, black is white and their conveluted view is reinforced 24/7...reality can and is avoided. The message is so honed it makes millions work against their own interests and destroyed the credibility of the corporate media...the age of Cronkite gave way to the age of O'Reilly. The polarization has hardened all sides into believing they're 100% right and all others are 100% wrong...all reinforced in their echo chambers and where any concept of compromise or even civil discourse is seen as weakness.
Can it get worse? Sadly yes it can and will. Polarization is good business for the corporate media and those who feast off of them. I keep hoping we've seen the worst of right wing extremism in the political discourse, but unfortunately they keep doubling down in an effort to fit into their bubble.
One hopes that this rushpublican clown car demolition derby would scare away any rational voter from ever voting for a rushpublican but short term memories and attention spans prevail in this brave new world and all the craziness can and will be overlooked if the economy flounders or there's some other national emergency where rationality goes out the window...
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)If a clear front runner emerges then things might calm down. If it is still a toss up then things could get worse.
Ask again in 8 days.
uponit7771
(90,371 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)when Reagan came within a 100 delegates of unseating a sitting president.
flexnor
(392 posts)or the top one percent of the one percent, and the candidates are selling 'trickle down', which helps a group they are figuring out they will probably never be part of
i think deep down, the kool-aid isnt working like it used to
this Perot ad from 1992 is what they are feeling
http://www.livingroomcandidate.org/commercials/1992/trickle-down
ads like this peeled off a lot of the republican base back then
flexnor
(392 posts)something that is more alike than different
who really cleaned up under this administration -> wall street, with free money
and everyone else paid for it with the highest inglation they've seen since the 1970s
was this caused by bush and would mccain have done the same thing? sure
has obama been better than mccain would have been ? on Iran, Yes, and that's important, less warmongering is always good
but on the rest, trickle down and free trade agreements and guest workers? i dont see much difference. and that's important too
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)When he talks about the economy, he demonstrates a true understanding of things. But where he had no problem overriding the military on the Bin Laden raid, he has stated that he does not really understand economics.
So he went out and got the guys with the best resumes and turned the economy over to them. Of course, they got the best resume by using a gamed system to their advantage.
It was certainly possible that they would have used their knowledge for the public good once responsibility for the public good was put into their hands. Look at Soros and Buffet? As long as the system is gamed, they might as well as use it to their advantage. But they acknowledge that is gamed and are calling for it to be fixed.
Unfortunately, I don't see the guys Obama hired doing that. I get the impression his economics team are true believers in trickle down economics. That, or they are just crooks.
flexnor
(392 posts)'great guy, but if he would just get rid of those bad luitenants'
oldest management game in the world. i quit falling for that years ago
you want to know who a leader really is, look at the first layer of management below them
in this case, it was rahm emanuael, larry summers, and geithner
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)Rahm was likely seen as a go-between with the Clintons. I have read that the White House staff found him to be hopelessly inept as a manager.
Summers and Geithner had great resumes. They were the experts. And the current accepted definition for financial "expert" is what you see.
Today, Patrick Henry University is the only college in the United States offering a degree in National Security. At some point to be considered an "expert" on National Security, you will have to have that degree. Unless liberal - as in free-thinking rather than political Liberal - universities start offering National Security degrees then all future National Security experts will be hard-right Dominionists because a hard-right Dominionist college is the only institute handing out National Security degrees.
Likewise, you are not going to get a higher degree in economics or finance without parroting Friedman. So your experts are going to be idiots. This has become a discipline where it would be better to ignore them and do it yourself.
flexnor
(392 posts)and i'm nobody
i just dont buy that he really didnt know what he was doing
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)You apparently believe he lied about being stupid to hide his evil intentions. I believe he truly doubts his competence and defers to the experts.
Johonny
(20,974 posts)are weighed more by the media than our actual elected officials daily ins and outs.
BigDemVoter
(4,160 posts)"misunderestimate" the stupidity of the RW!