The decade-long War in Afghanistan (2001–present) has caused the deaths of thousands of Afghan civilians directly from insurgent and foreign military action, as well as the deaths of possibly tens of thousands of Afghan civilians indirectly as a consequence of displacement, starvation, disease, exposure, lack of medical treatment, crime and lawlessness resulting from the war. The war, launched by the United States as "Operation Enduring Freedom" in 2001, began with an initial air campaign that almost immediately prompted concerns over the number of Afghan civilians being killed[1] as well as international protests. With civilian deaths from airstrikes rising again in recent years[2], the number of Afghan civilians being killed by foreign military operations has led to mounting tension between the foreign countries and the government of Afghanistan. In May 2007, President Hamid Karzai summoned foreign military commanders to warn them of the consequences of further Afghan civilian deaths.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_in_the_War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29

unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)

5. History:

Reply to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:20 AM

Feb 2012

Boston Massacre
My Lai
Haditha
Gitmo
Abu Gharib
Bagram

Yup, lot's of Honor.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)

6. With modern weapons....

Reply to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:27 AM

Feb 2012

all you have to be is in the area.

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)

7. Johnny Rico

Reply to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:30 AM

Feb 2012

...has seen a lot of movies.

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)

8. I prefer the book. The movie is an abomination.

Reply to WilliamPitt (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:32 AM

Feb 2012

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)

10. Remember that it is a work of fiction.

Reply to Johnny Rico (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:36 AM

Feb 2012

Some think war is a game of some sort, or a story about 'heroes', or a reason to thump their chest and declare "Hooray for our side!".

Talk to my Dad about Korea.

He'll set you straight.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)

15. Ask the poster about his gun collection. n/t

Reply to Ikonoklast (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:33 PM

Feb 2012

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)

9. "As we pull away from the shore, grateful natives gather to speed us on our way, waving and

Reply to WilliamPitt (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:33 AM

Feb 2012

chanting "motherf#cker, motherf#cker". -- Radio TV Dinners

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)

11. "War is sweet to those who haven't tasted it." Desiderius Erasmus

Reply to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:37 AM

Feb 2012

Bonhomme Richard

(9,001 posts)

12. Honor is a funny thing. It's like other attributes that many....

Reply to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:29 PM

Feb 2012

strive for yet few reach.
Yes, protecting the innocent is an honorable thing to do.
Sitting in Nevada, pushing a button and killing a target when the possibility that the innocent may also die....not so much.
In both circumstances each believes they are doing the honorable thing.
The truth is in the act itself.
On the other hand, woman are killed every day throughout the world in the name of honor. It's just another word.

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)

13. K&R - This should be in the greatest list.

Reply to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:03 PM

Feb 2012

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)

14. Documented civilian deaths from violence in Iraq 105,439 – 115,149

Reply to Johnny Rico (Original post)

Tue Feb 28, 2012, 02:53 PM

Feb 2012

This data is based on 27,456 database entries from the beginning of the war to 18 February 2012. The most recent weeks are always in the process of compilation and will rise further. The current range contains 7,226–7,494 deaths (6.9%–6.5%, a portion which may rise or fall over time) based on single-sourced reports. Graphs are based on the higher number in our totals. Gaps in recording and reporting suggest that even our highest totals to date may be missing many civilian deaths from violence. See Recent Events for as yet unpublished incidents, and read About IBC for a better description of the project's scope and limitations.

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/

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